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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid anyone else catch this point Lawrence made?
Lawrence's opening 25-minute-long statement tonight was a masterpiece. I don't know if MSNBC posts video of past shows but everyone needs to watch for it.
He made a critical point that likely will have some deadly consequences. This is what he said:
-- The big beautiful bill adds $32 billion to the ICE budget, much of which is to hire more agents.
-- Police departments nationwide report they cannot find enough qualified candidates.
-- So, why should we assume ICE will find qualified candidates?
I guarantee you ICE will hire any piece of trash who has a pulse and can hold a weapon.

malaise
(286,475 posts)That is all
FalloutShelter
(13,567 posts)Gimpyknee
(340 posts)dsc
(53,021 posts)I don't know if they will or won't but they just well might.
Figarosmom
(6,828 posts)Is offer insurance. There is a reason trump wants the health insurance decimated. People will be desperate for jobs with it.
forgotmylogin
(7,907 posts)of like $1000 per detainment. That keeps them off trackable payrolls and why they're so insistent and going for easy kidnaps.
Deuxcents
(23,026 posts)rampartd
(2,183 posts)chicoescuela
(2,120 posts)and you can legally be a dick 24/7
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)extreme right wing racist hate group MILITIAS running around in the U.S. They make the Border Patrol Goons look like boy scouts.....
ancianita
(41,013 posts)Lawrence had to pause because he was so choked up; by then he had me weeping.
Corporate MSNBC demands you see their channel, and so they don't post either Lawrence or Rachel on YouTube for at least a day, and even then they don't post the full show. That MSNBC does that ticks me off to no end. They'll rerun him at 1am EST, two hours from now.
Thanks for your post. Let's hope MSNBC show some production sense.
snowybirdie
(6,202 posts)On Tune In Radio. Check it out
mopinko
(72,774 posts)and a segment or 2 of video.
bmichaelh
(865 posts)Do not need to hear Trump's empty words.
His actions show his priorities.
Spending billions for ICE Agents instead of healthcare and cancer research.,
His actions show what kind of person he is.
patphil
(8,085 posts)They're only qualification will be loyalty to Trump and a willingness to terrorize their targets and anyone who get in their way.
These are the equivalent of Hitler's Brown Shirts, and will perform that same function long after their ICE mission is done. They'll be his private terror force; an army to enforce his will.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
JI7
(92,309 posts)but with the bigger budget I wonder if they would hire more gym thugs who would be harder to fight back.
speak easy
(11,947 posts)Most probably sadists, white supremacists, and psychos. Sadistic, psycho NAZIS preferred.
lastlib
(26,289 posts)And Nazis for storm-troopers.
mahina
(19,899 posts)Rhiannon12866
(238,709 posts)
Lawrence: What you're feeling is the banality of cruelty from Trump and the Republican Party - The Last Word - MSNBC
https://democraticunderground.com/132151670
Nixie
(17,754 posts)they are wannabe LEOs who couldnt find prime jobs so they go into the prison guard system. That is apparently the lower echelon for qualifications and they have a chip on their shoulders. It seems to fit what were seeing. Tough guy flunkies.
*edit: he saw a show or article about it. Everyone wants to know who the hell they are,
Demobrat
(10,181 posts)ICE will be scooping up every thug off the street and handing them a weapon.
Nasruddin
(1,067 posts)They will press detainees into service, in trade for release from certain death prison.
They will import special mercenaries from other countries in trade for some level of citizenship.
This is what ruthless autocrats have done since the beginning of civilization.
Pacifist Patriot
(25,051 posts)and contracting. We can't think of ICE goons the same way we do FBI agents or CIA officers. They are not, by and large, federal employees. They are employed by government contractors. The contracts may have qualification and security stipulations, but it can sometimes be fairly easy to skirt those or dance a fine line. They are mercenaries not civil servants. Check out Paragon and their hundreds of millions of dollars in security contracts with the US government.
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Joinfortmill
(18,516 posts)eppur_se_muova
(39,408 posts)I see by your last line you are on top of this already.
Irish_Dem
(72,217 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(166,210 posts)I have or had a stutter that only shows up with I am very tired or sick. President Biden's stutter showed up early on but I agree with Lawrence that for the rest of the debate, President Biden beat the shit out of trump.
I have met President Biden twice and got to discuss stuttering with him. Here is the thread that I posted back after the debate
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219071415
I agree strongly with Lawrence's comments about that stupid debate
PatSeg
(50,587 posts)Yes, that is quite obvious from what we've witnessed so far. It would be interesting to know who these creeps really are.
Iamscrewed
(486 posts)et tu
(2,338 posts)BurnDoubt
(802 posts)Their capabilities to surveille individuals and obscure facts and evidence and weaponize Government against "enemies" is at a level Hitler and his Palz could only fantasize. We've cuddled with an Anaconda, now wait for it to have its way. I'm waiting for the day we can turn their fire back on them and they live out their lives in the Klepto Mines.
I blame Lincoln's Humanity... they should have "finished the job". Now, we're still being tormented by these Insurrectionist Traitors. They've been hobbling the lives and progress of their brothers and sisters ever since the "Right" to own other Humans was beaten out of their hands. We didn't beat it out of their Hearts.
That's Why.....................................................................................................................................
Faux pas
(15,782 posts)it's not on here yet, dvr-ing it.
RSH
(12 posts)Eric Prince the "born again" war criminal proposed a $25 billion plan to deport "undocumented immigrants" by possibly forming a civilian run army.
vanlassie
(6,032 posts)he changed the name of his company so far?