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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHillary Clinton unloading:
America can and must be bigger than their punitive politics.
— Hillary Rodham Clinton (@hillaryclinton.bsky.social) 2025-07-02T16:22:43.923Z

BurnDoubt
(831 posts)Cha
(313,103 posts)Mahalo Nui Loa 💙
TommieMommy
(2,200 posts)1WorldHope
(1,452 posts)Millionaires and billionaires won't even notice the money that they don't have to pay out. They already spent half their time trying to hide the money they do have so they don't have to pay taxes.
angrychair
(10,897 posts)The mire existence of a billionaire is a destabilizing influence on that country.
Billionaires are truly pure evil. They steal the prosperity and potential of others,
be it people or organizations or whole societies.
Anyone defending them is either a billionaire, their thrall or someone that does not actually understand the scope of wealth and its power
Vinca
(52,405 posts)pocket change to them. As Hillary said, they've got more loot than they can spend in many lifetimes.
Cha
(313,103 posts)


multigraincracker
(36,000 posts)If everyone would put the same sticker on their bumper, they might give it some thought.
DinahMoeHum
(23,083 posts). . .and grandchildren.
You destroy the generational transfer of ill-gotten wealth that way.
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niyad
(125,311 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 2, 2025, 06:46 PM - Edit history (1)
By the way, 90 and 120 million, all of which they earned, is nowhere near a billion. Math counts.
ShazzieB
(21,179 posts)1 billion = ONE THOUSAND million. (I just looked it up to be sure I got it right.
I can remember a million bucks was an an almost unimaginable amount of wealth, but times have definitely changed.
Emile
(36,013 posts)
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marble falls
(67,049 posts)Disaffected
(5,765 posts)/ˌso͞opərˈsilēəs/
adjective
behaving or looking as though one thinks one is superior to others.
marble falls
(67,049 posts)... which would you prefer a penny or a dollar? A hundred million or a thousand million?
William769
(59,147 posts)
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,159 posts)
JI7
(92,341 posts)
betsuni
(28,109 posts)and dysfunction in government that only Republicans are responsible for. There is no both sides.
Nixie
(17,754 posts)podium warrior, actually raised taxes on high income earners. Actually.
MakeThemCry
(11 posts)If so, nice!
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BootinUp
(50,103 posts)Picaro
(2,114 posts)While Ive always hated that she used the term to describe Trumps voters and that this honesty played a part in her lossshe was absolutely right.
They are deplorable and despicable.
Justice matters.
(8,654 posts)1. A woman.
2. A woman of color.
3. Any woman of anything.
Reality shocks.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,183 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:02 AM - Edit history (1)
... They know who they are, I know who they are, and so do you.
Sparkly
(24,701 posts)We all have had to live with it, suffer from it, and I keep hoping, LEARN FROM it!!
betsuni
(28,109 posts)for the narcissistic phony revolution to come that never came. Their motto: "It's not a lie if you believe it."
Oopsie Daisy
(6,183 posts)* has ended up being much more costly and destructive than any of us could have imagined. But... hey... (1-2-3-4!)
You say you want a revolution, well, you know
We all wanna change the world
You tell me that it's evolution, well, you know
We all wanna change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out?
AZProgressive
(29,699 posts)About 12% of Bernie Sanders primary voters voted for Trump but those disproportionately were self described moderates & conservatives. Most of the liberal voters for Sanders silently voted for Sanders in the primary and later silently voted for Hillary Clinton in the general election -- I was one of those 74% (a similar rate of Hillary Clinton voters that voted for Obama in the general election in 2008)
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-was-helped-by-the-neverhillary-vote-what-does-that-mean-for-his-chances-now/
Then there are the Obama-Trump voters who made up between 6.7 million and 9.2 million of the 2016 electorate.
Vox
A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump
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Clinton suffered her biggest losses in the places where Obama was strongest among white voters. Its not a simple racism story, the New York Timess Nate Cohn wrote on the night of the election. This typically segues into an argument that Trump won by tapping into economic, rather than racial, anxiety anger about trade and the decline of manufacturing, or the fallout from the 2008 Great Recession.
A new study shows that this response isnt as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.
White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues, the papers authors write. We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm
Oopsie Daisy
(6,183 posts)It appears that someone is defending (explaining?) the results, and/or the people who were influenced by the lies and liars. I'm talking about the cause, and the intentionality of it all... the lies and liars themselves... those high-profile individuals who knew what they were doing (for revenge, for punishment, for their own glory and satisfaction) thank you very much. I thought I was being clear. People are free, I realize, to interject irrelevant cut-and-paste essays if that's what floats their boat... I'm confident that my main points will eventually rise above the background noise and clutter.
SheltieLover
(71,865 posts)
Sparkly
(24,701 posts)ALWAYS.
SheltieLover
(71,865 posts)
The Wizard
(13,275 posts)they get "contributions" from the bribing class. Bribery doesn't cost, it pays. Think offshore money laundries.
electric_blue68
(22,450 posts)Somewhere on a Parallel Earth there's a Mdme President Hillary, and later a
Mdme President Kamala.
ImNotGod
(879 posts)robbed US.
calimary
(87,116 posts)AND a brilliant first woman president. It would have seriously set back any naysayers arguments that women arent up to that job. Woulda really screwed their position - with a big fat exclamation point!
We were ROBBED.
Our country was ROBBED.
The world was ROBBED.
Our future was ROBBED and TAMPERED WITH.
We CANNOT give up on that goal, but this certainly was a setback.
DAMMIT.
mahina
(19,922 posts)Diverted
oasis
(52,510 posts)
Jack Valentino
(2,838 posts)and keep those survivors in the middle so worried about 'not starving' that they have no
time or energy or MONEY to worry about 'politics'--- that's been their strategy since REAGAN took office!
OMGWTF
(4,849 posts)If you're rich and powerful it's because God thinks you are awesome and deserve it.
If you're poor and weak it's because God thinks you suck and should suffer.
Rethuglicans are a$$h0les, all of 'em, Katie!
Fl_life
(7 posts)The exact bills giving the breaks to these filthy rich?? 900 pages? Too long to trudge thru the muck..