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On Symone's show. I just posted a thread 2 hours ago about how Democrats are fighting fire with fire. Symone and her panel asked Goldman what is Democrats' plan to deal with the militarization of D.C.
His answers were weak tea. He said they would file a lawsuit, he said they will blame Congressional Magats.
It is time for Democrats to think outside the box, blaming Congressional Magats and blaming Krasnov and hoping that Congressional Magats come around is wishful thinking.
Symone was very frustrated with his response.
Maybe organizing a massive peaceful protest? Get together and brainstorm what to do, DC won't be the last place to be militarized.

flamingdem
(40,627 posts)I wish we'd hear more fire but figure that this is about overwhelming Democrats and distracting from Epstein.
I say: keep the focus on EPSTEIN.
Also, Symone is really hammering the DC thing cuz it's her town maybe but in the scheme of things.. EPSTEIN is a winning issue and let's not lose the focus.
gab13by13
(29,350 posts)Think outside the box.
Dems need to respond immediately to all the distractions while keeping Epstein on the front page.
If the Congressional plan is to let Krasnov break the law, giving illegal orders is breaking the law, and hope that the people protest then so be it, that is the Schumer plan.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,204 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(20,397 posts)Several activist threads were posted in the past couple of days by DUer usonian [/i ] that have links and videos for all sorts of protests and activities.
Check em out!
gab13by13
(29,350 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(20,397 posts)Usonians threads contain tons of excellent resource on things folks can DO rather than feeling powerless.
Lovie777
(19,676 posts)to my understanding Symone went Indy and did not support the Democratic Presidential ticket on 2024.
Celerity
(51,511 posts)Whenever I saw her speak in 2024 she was completely anti Trump, and also, post DNC, was pro nominee VP Harris, whom she used to work for.
edited to add (per another poster in post 20) that she apparently has not registered as an indie
FloridaBlues
(4,589 posts)She threatened once about going Indy but has not done so according to statements on the show.
Paladin
(31,287 posts)He's been one of my favorite Democrats for some time. Normally his responses are first-rate.
flamingdem
(40,627 posts)I thought he was fine.
ancianita
(41,360 posts)Me, too.
angrychair
(10,987 posts)"we will do almost nothing" is fine than I guess it's fine.
We have Mango Mussolini doing military takeovers of cities. A literal effort to rewrite our nation's history. Him making actual billions of dollars in grift. All while the couch humper is going on vacations like it's his job as a travel influencer.
But sure, let's bust out some sternly worded letters and hold press conferences. I'm sure that will fix it.
W_HAMILTON
(9,454 posts)Instead of constantly complaining, people should tell us what this magic wand is that Democrats could wave and make everything better this very instant.
Spoiler alert: Campaign rallies in blue cities months after the election, viral tweets, protests, etc. -- none of that ultimately will do a damn thing either.
skylucy
(3,969 posts)hamsterjill
(16,348 posts)Sometimes, it seems they go on these shows and are surprised at the questions asked and do not have strong answers. That would be a starting point.
Maybe they need to compile some hefty donors and take out some ads or buy some air time where they can explain their platform to the American people. We have a shitload of wealthy entertainment industry Dems who give money. Perhaps they could be asked to give a small percentage more. I think most average income people are getting tapped out.
We need to go beyond MSNBC to reach people who are not Democratic voters.
JI7
(92,412 posts)hamsterjill
(16,348 posts)What is there NOT to explain?
I think the American people want to know what the Democrats are doing to counter Trump's takeover of this country. Is that not what should be explained? Should they explain what Trump's actions actually mean for the average person's rights and remedies? That Trump wants to be a freaking dictator or king? What his current agenda means for the average person?
Not everyone reads DU or watches MSNBC or listens to podcasts.
JI7
(92,412 posts)hamsterjill
(16,348 posts)Those that have a problem with what?
vanlassie
(6,068 posts)I see people like us. Doing an amazing and thankless job, lately, any way. Dan Goldman is one of the very best voices for us.
JI7
(92,412 posts)him . And you have a problem with that ?
Protests don't do anything other than invite attention whore troublemakers that will do bad things and it will spread through media and that becomes the story.
gab13by13
(29,350 posts)But based on recent history take years to be resolved. Just like the strategy to beat them in 2026 is waiting too long.
Project 2025 is ahead of schedule.
JI7
(92,412 posts)gab13by13
(29,350 posts)What dictators want?
JI7
(92,412 posts)karynnj
(60,461 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 14, 2025, 08:26 AM - Edit history (1)
As a Congressman and an excellent lawyer, I would think he would be more useful using his skills and position to negotiate a way out of this.
There has been some commentary that the cool, measured response of DCs government and the lack of large protests, that would be filmed, edited and used to PROVE DC is violent, has been a smart response.
Ignoring that, she is part of the media and they should be doing more to make the case that DC crime has been lied about and is coming down. Even their cause celebre, the Doge guy, actually showed that DC's police were there to arrest some of the attackers. Not to mention, his injuries were such that he did not go to the hospital. (It was a nasty event, but doesn't reach to the level of a large, violent mob attacking the Capital.)
skylucy
(3,969 posts)I am ok with Symone, but she always acts frustrated and basically her hair is always on fire. I'm not downplaying how much trouble our country is in right now, but just because someone isn't talking a mile a minute at 100 decibels, doesn't mean they are "weak tea".
Karma13612
(4,793 posts)The place of Joy Reed then.
Thats what used to drive me nuts about Joy. She had important things to say but her delivery used to wind me up so severely I just couldnt listen/watch her show. Nicole Wallaces cadence is more my style.
MadameButterfly
(3,391 posts)A very good one. That is what he should be doing.
The courts are our best shot to end this everywhere without anyone getting hurt or giving Trump more excuses for martial law.
i understand the problem with that, so we should also be organizing but it needs to be a plan with a long view.
I'll be seeing what Indivisible is up to because they are consulting experts, training people, and making a cohesive plan.
Blaming Dan Goldman for not doing everything isn't going to help. He's doing his part.
I'm tired of Democrats having lower approval ratings than Republicans. Yes, we are frustrated but there isn't an obvious solution. Not everything Dems are doing is getting press. Republicans who could stop this are afraid of Trump's wrath while Democrats are putting themselves on the line. We need to recognize courage.
cachukis
(3,376 posts)We are thinty years behind playing by rules.
Not sure we can catch up in a couple of seasons.
The Constitution might be a good frame, but it lacks the luster of lies to the needy.
Symone has spunk, but Goldman has to maintain dignity.
Are we going to sell swill to better our pigs?
gab13by13
(29,350 posts)It is going to take the people, including some Magats, working together to throw out the billionaires.
Miles Taylor is on now calling for all types of people, all types of organizations to speak out against authoritarianism, which will lead to a movement.
cachukis
(3,376 posts)They are in the factory.
We can only slow it down until a new generation can see the mayhem.
Chances are, we will not see how well they did.
mcar
(45,111 posts)on one show. Lets do another round of Dems suck.
BigmanPigman
(53,458 posts)President Clinton is right. He said that until 2026 we MUST take them to court constantly. That is what some Dems are doing so GOOD for them.
Others are protesting all over the US in large and small groups and Malcolm Nance said this is another great way to stop MAGA. Nance spoke about the resisters who are protesting across the US fighting back tRump and his agenda and this is exactly what we must continue to do. We can not rely on politicians. We must stand up and fight back but not just in mega rallies like NO KINGS, it must happen consistently. Flash mob protests are working!!!!
pnwmom
(110,043 posts)and she probably scored some points. He's trying to do his real job, and that's not all happening in front of the cameras.
aeromanKC
(3,693 posts)Not everybody is perfect on every issue. But Dan Goldman is one of the good guys!!!!
writerJT
(416 posts)being written to Bondi.
So, everyone relax. Hes writing a blistering letter!
🙄🙄🙄
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,475 posts)Prairie Gates
(5,884 posts)Is there anything more inside the box than that?
Good Lord.
William Gustafson
(487 posts)But it's the voters that caused this and it's only the voters that can fix this.... Democrats are not in power, thanks to the voters.. They have no control over what happens, thanks to the voters...
For the voters to now want the Politicians to fix this... they can't... They have no power to bring up bills, no power to stop any of this... It's on us, people...
So, stop it with the circle firing squad.... We must raise our voices to the people that doing all of this... Republicans!... We must protest in the streets... We must make sure our elections are on the up and up with hand recounts if the are not!!!...
It's all up to us!!!
Celerity
(51,511 posts)https://www.msnbc.com/the-weeknight/watch/rep-dan-goldman-republicans-are-rolling-over-democracy-and-allowing-trump-to-act-as-a-fascist-dictator-244934725748
After being denied entry to a Brooklyn facility, Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) sends a direct message to border czar Tom Homan from The Weeknight table about detention center access. He also weighs in on Trumps power play in Washington, D.C., as the president deploys National Guard and pledges a crime crackdown.
Aug. 14, 2025