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Ocelot II

(127,055 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:48 PM Aug 15

Trump's transparent desire for the Nobel Peace Prize is not playing well

in the prize's home country. Norway's largest newspaper, Aftenposten, just published an opinion piece stating that the committee would have to be insane to award it to him.

Peace Prize for Trump? Donald Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by Benjamin Netanyahu. It is hard to imagine a greater breach with the values of the prize.

According to the former secretary of the Nobel Committee, Geir Lundestad, Obama received the Peace Prize because he "stood for all the ideals the Nobel Committee had worked hard for over many decades: a better organized world with an emphasis on the UN and multilateral diplomacy, dialogue and negotiations in almost all situations, the vision of a world without nuclear weapons, strengthening democracy and human rights; a new climate policy."

From the first Peace Prize in 1901 until today, the prize has rewarded work for international cooperation, free trade, disarmament and brotherhood between peoples... Trump has abandoned almost all of the ideals mentioned above. He has refused to recognize a democratic election and inspired supporters to commit coups..... [the authors list Trump's various sins against peace and humanity]

Trump has threatened NATO allies, Canada and Denmark. He is against free trade and uses tariffs as a political tool to pressure other countries to impose his will. The international order has largely been replaced by "might is right."...

The Nobel Committee has received an absurd nomination this summer. Accused of genocide, Benjamin Netanyahu has nominated his accomplice, Donald Trump, for the Nobel Peace Prize. A mental breakdown of the committee is needed for Trump to fulfill his dream of being named Prince of Peace.
https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/i/OoMPdb/fredspris-til-trump-da-maa-medlemmene-i-nobelkomiteen-faa-mentalt-sammenbrudd

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Trump's transparent desire for the Nobel Peace Prize is not playing well (Original Post) Ocelot II Aug 15 OP
He'll just pay them for it. BamaRefugee Aug 15 #1
Norway is one of the richest countries in the world; they don't need his money, Ocelot II Aug 15 #2
As of 2022 (most recent I could find) they have $399,744,100 in equity underpants Aug 16 #37
TACO's Response MissouriDem47 Aug 16 #9
He's doing a fairly decent job of pre-trashing..."only awarded to liberals". When he's not allegorical oracle Aug 16 #27
Famous liberal Henry Kissinger mr715 Aug 16 #33
That was the most controversial award ever, and ultimately it was so embarrassing for the Nobel Committee Ocelot II Aug 17 #42
Well Kissinger was the devil incarnate mr715 Aug 17 #43
The controversy over the 1973 award wasn't necessarily just because it was given to Kissinger; Ocelot II Aug 17 #44
Your point is taken. mr715 Aug 17 #46
Ha! He was Nixon's Dick Cheney. Ocelot II Aug 17 #47
He'll get Mexico to pay for it Martin Eden Aug 16 #23
It isn't so much the transparent desire, it is the refusal to do ANYTHING worthy RockRaven Aug 16 #3
Here's my take... GP6971 Aug 16 #4
So Traitor went away mad.... another chance Cha Aug 16 #17
But but he's the worlds greatest salesman 🙄 underpants Aug 16 #31
Everything he does is to deceive. And he is a coward. GP6971 Aug 16 #39
Putin said no ceasefire- only peace talks womanofthehills Aug 16 #32
Oh I know. I was just speculating what GP6971 Aug 16 #35
Trump's various crimes against peace and humanity. J_William_Ryan Aug 16 #5
This 👆 bamagal62 Aug 16 #11
The committee that awarded the prize to Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama is not going to award one to him question everything Aug 16 #6
Dear God I hope not!!! calimary Aug 16 #10
And Bill Clinton was nominated for Ireland MadameButterfly Aug 16 #19
Oh, there is going to be some colossal butt hurt at Fox if he doesn't underpants Aug 16 #34
Desperado Donnie: SAD! Blue Owl Aug 16 #7
Constantly trolling and mocking the world, as if this scum deserves anything but a prison cell Blues Heron Aug 16 #8
he is pathetic Skittles Aug 16 #12
Damn, that harsh Skittles..... democratsruletheday Aug 16 #22
Can we petition the committee to come up with a Participation Prize? Warpy Aug 16 #13
so true! BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 16 #14
If they should EVER award Trump a Nobel Peace Prize that would taint every previous recipents award. usaf-vet Aug 16 #15
Well Done Article! Love how it's Cha Aug 16 #16
I agree. He even jokes "I don't know" underpants Aug 16 #29
Interesting! Yes, Very Good to remember Cha Aug 17 #41
He's going to throw a fit until someone throws down a ball for him... Hugin Aug 16 #18
Trump is like the contestants on American Idol who sang out of key MadameButterfly Aug 16 #20
Trump is a political Florence Foster Jenkins. Ocelot II Aug 16 #21
It is vulgar low life malaise Aug 16 #24
From the Nobel website canetoad Aug 16 #25
Trump checks all the boxes for NOT getting the prize. Ocelot II Aug 16 #26
But he deserves the Piece Prize....... EndlessMaze Aug 16 #28
🏆 underpants Aug 16 #30
Or some sort of compromise like that.. Permanut Aug 16 #36
when the peace prize is issued... it should come with an additional statement....... Takket Aug 16 #38
Oh, come on, give the baby back his rattle. rickyhall Aug 16 #40
I'll take that as a "No"... Wounded Bear Aug 17 #45

Ocelot II

(127,055 posts)
2. Norway is one of the richest countries in the world; they don't need his money,
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 11:54 PM
Aug 15

nor would they take it if offered. The notion that the Nobel committee could be bought is ridiculous.

underpants

(192,824 posts)
37. As of 2022 (most recent I could find) they have $399,744,100 in equity
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 10:10 PM
Aug 16

They own stuff
Pages 19-20


All numbers SEK 000
Assets $4,063.241 (fixed assets $3,611,660)
- Liabilities $66,201
= Equity $3,997,401


The books I could find
https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2023/04/annual-report-2022-2.pdf

MissouriDem47

(275 posts)
9. TACO's Response
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 01:28 AM
Aug 16

Last edited Sat Aug 16, 2025, 07:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Once he sees that he will never get the Nobel Peace Prize how long will it be before TACO starts trashing it?

allegorical oracle

(5,688 posts)
27. He's doing a fairly decent job of pre-trashing..."only awarded to liberals". When he's not
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:37 PM
Aug 16

whining and pestering for it, he's throwing sour grapes at it.

Ocelot II

(127,055 posts)
42. That was the most controversial award ever, and ultimately it was so embarrassing for the Nobel Committee
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:04 AM
Aug 17

that it's unlikely they'll make a similar mistake again. It was awarded jointly to Kissinger and Lê Đức Thọ for "having negotiated a cease fire in Vietnam in 1973." Thọ declined the prize, and Kissinger later tried to return it, but the committee declined his offer. "In Norway, the Nobel Committee was subject to widespread criticism, with the Norwegian Arbeiderbladet newspaper calling the award a "bad joke" and stating, "The Norwegian Nobel Committee has disgraced itself". In a joint letter to the Norwegian Parliament, multiple Harvard professors wrote that awarding Kissinger and Thọ was "more than a person with a normal sense of justice can take". For only the second time in history, Norwegian Nobel Committee members resigned as a result of the decision." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Nobel_Peace_Prize

Awarding the prize to Trump would be exponentially worse, and the current committee surely knows it.

Ocelot II

(127,055 posts)
44. The controversy over the 1973 award wasn't necessarily just because it was given to Kissinger;
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 04:27 PM
Aug 17

it was because the basis for the award, the Paris Peace Accords, was a sham. The deal was negotiated by Kissinger, who was then the NSA, and Lê Đức Thọ, representing North Vietnam. The government of South Vietnam wasn't represented or even informed, and of course they didn't know what was being discussed or agreed to because the negotiations were held in secret. Nguyễn Văn Thiệu, the president of South Vietnam, refused to agree to the draft agreement when presented with it, but later, after Nixon threatened to abandon South Vietnam if it didn't go along with the deal, Thiệu had little choice but to take it. The agreement mostly got the US out of Vietnam but the North and South kept on fighting and the war continued for another two years until North Vietnam's forces overtook the South, the US having refused to offer any more support by providing equipment and weapons. Saigon fell in 1975 and remaining US personnel were evacuated. The Paris accords were deemed a failure because South Vietnam was "pressurized into accepting an agreement that virtually ensured its collapse."

Does any of this sound kind of familiar?



mr715

(1,921 posts)
46. Your point is taken.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 04:34 PM
Aug 17

For the record I am purposefully oversimplifying because I enjoy any opportunity to hate on Kissinger.


Ocelot II

(127,055 posts)
47. Ha! He was Nixon's Dick Cheney.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 04:38 PM
Aug 17

Or maybe Cheney was W's Kissinger. Hard to decide which was more evil.

RockRaven

(17,956 posts)
3. It isn't so much the transparent desire, it is the refusal to do ANYTHING worthy
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:03 AM
Aug 16

and at EVERY opportunity doing the exact opposite/wrong/unworthy thing. He could not make a bigger mockery of the Peace Prize if he tried.

GP6971

(36,536 posts)
4. Here's my take...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:11 AM
Aug 16

trump thought he could convince Putin for a 4 to 5 month cease fire. The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded in October...a cease fire is declared, trump gets the award and putin starts hostilities again after the first of the year.

But, putin wasn't buying.

Cha

(314,214 posts)
17. So Traitor went away mad.... another chance
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 03:33 AM
Aug 16

to fool the Committee slips away.

They've probably figured this out, too.

Well Done, GP :

underpants

(192,824 posts)
31. But but he's the worlds greatest salesman 🙄
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:05 PM
Aug 16

Putin is the richest man in the world. Not in title but he basically owns Russia.

Trump, personally, is a pissant to him ….other than our military but he knows we aren’t coming after them directly. We know it too. Look, Trump is a wuss. He’s weak. He can claim “isolationist” all he wants but he’s feigned and pump faked several times over two terms.

GP6971

(36,536 posts)
39. Everything he does is to deceive. And he is a coward.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 10:30 PM
Aug 16

All he knows how to do is bully, deceive and lie.

womanofthehills

(10,352 posts)
32. Putin said no ceasefire- only peace talks
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:07 PM
Aug 16

Peace talks with his demands on NATO and he keeps Dunbas region.

So it looks like Trump is removing himself and saying it’s now between Europe & Ukraine and Russia.

Sounds like Europe will now have to buy weapons from US for Ukraine.

I thought “Breaking Points” did a good job on this today with Mearsheimer.

GP6971

(36,536 posts)
35. Oh I know. I was just speculating what
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:39 PM
Aug 16

trump himself was thinking. We all know he doesn't live in reality.

J_William_Ryan

(2,986 posts)
5. Trump's various crimes against peace and humanity.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:40 AM
Aug 16

Trump’s desire to win the Nobel Prize is in part arrogance but mostly his racist, bizarre obsession with President Obama.

question everything

(50,940 posts)
6. The committee that awarded the prize to Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama is not going to award one to him
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:47 AM
Aug 16

MadameButterfly

(3,527 posts)
19. And Bill Clinton was nominated for Ireland
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 05:17 AM
Aug 16

Every US Democratic president (plus Gore who really won) won or was credibly nominated for the Nobel Peace prize (I'm inserting Creative Inserting "credibly" because Trump's nomination by Netanyahu doesn't count).

No Republicans.

The is no balance here. There is good, and there is evil.

underpants

(192,824 posts)
34. Oh, there is going to be some colossal butt hurt at Fox if he doesn't
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:25 PM
Aug 16

This is a known known in Clustertrump world.
On X and Baghdad Barbie posts and pressers every day.

IF it’s a no - heads will explode

Blues Heron

(7,488 posts)
8. Constantly trolling and mocking the world, as if this scum deserves anything but a prison cell
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:55 AM
Aug 16

This shit is wearing on much too long.

Warpy

(113,896 posts)
13. Can we petition the committee to come up with a Participation Prize?
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 02:39 AM
Aug 16

A year or two from now, he won't know the difference because he's already having trouble reading and small print on the plaque or whatever will defeat him completely. Once he gets it, he'll have no more reason to appease vicious monsters like Putin or bully countries into bogus cease fires that are doomed to fail because the underlying issues were not dealt with (India and Pakistan, I'm looking at you; ditto Thailand and Cambodia).

usaf-vet

(7,679 posts)
15. If they should EVER award Trump a Nobel Peace Prize that would taint every previous recipents award.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 03:03 AM
Aug 16

I don't see how they could insult the award in any other more disrespectful way.

Trump should be in prison for his lifetime of crimes against humanity.

Cha

(314,214 posts)
16. Well Done Article! Love how it's
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 03:28 AM
Aug 16

told why President Obama won.

Traitor & his nominator Netanyahu.. ? Tragi Cosmic Deathly Disaster.

underpants

(192,824 posts)
29. I agree. He even jokes "I don't know"
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:58 PM
Aug 16

I was at the NYC Times Square Hilton for a swanky dinner at the Plaza Hotel a few nights later when the news broke. I was just hired (after 11 months out of work) by a self righteous family run charity. I need to write a book about that madness.

I started rocking laughing and left the breakfast table to call my wife.
“They awarded him the Nobel!!!”
“WHAAT?”

We’d done a lot in the campaign. God what a time of Hope.

Cha

(314,214 posts)
41. Interesting! Yes, Very Good to remember
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 12:09 AM
Aug 17

that time.. HPPE..💙It Can happen Again.

Mahalo, underpants.

Hugin

(36,868 posts)
18. He's going to throw a fit until someone throws down a ball for him...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 04:43 AM
Aug 16

A gaudy gilded Nobel-ish prize that everyone except him and Fox News viewers know is as fraudulent as he is flatulent. It’s all an act that he’s gotten away with for eighty years.

MadameButterfly

(3,527 posts)
20. Trump is like the contestants on American Idol who sang out of key
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 05:20 AM
Aug 16

They were so bad, they didn't know they are bad. I stopped watching the show because I didn't like seeing people humiliated. But then, these people weren't hurting anybody.

Trump is so divorced from any human compassion that he doesn't even get what the Nobel peace prize is about.

canetoad

(19,428 posts)
25. From the Nobel website
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:30 PM
Aug 16
About the Nobel Peace Prize

With regard to the Peace Prize, the will of Alfred Nobel stipulated that it was to be awarded to the person "who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses". Over the course of time the Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded in recognition of many different kinds of peace work and concepts of peace.

In the earliest years of the Peace Prize - up to World War I - the prize was often awarded to pioneers of the organized peace movement. In the inter-war years, the focus shifted to active politicians who sought to promote international peace, stability and justice by means of diplomacy and international agreements, but prizes were also awarded for humanitarian work (Nansen, the League of Nations High Commissioner for Refugees).

Since World War II, the Peace Prize has principally been awarded to honour efforts in four main areas: arms control and disarmament, peace negotiation, democracy and human rights, and work aimed at creating a better organized and more peaceful world. In the 21st century the Nobel Committee has embraced efforts to limit the harm done by man-made climate change and threats to the environment as relevant to the Peace Prize.

https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/nobel-peace-prize/about-the-nobel-peace-prize/

EndlessMaze

(60 posts)
28. But he deserves the Piece Prize.......
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:44 PM
Aug 16

The Piece of Shit Prize. Presnedent Orange Shart the Malevolent,.

Takket

(23,207 posts)
38. when the peace prize is issued... it should come with an additional statement.......
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 10:15 PM
Aug 16

listing all the reason why drumpf will NEVER be awarded the prize, and the advice that if he wants one, the best thing he could ever do for peace, is to resign.

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