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marble falls

(71,919 posts)
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:44 AM Aug 2025

What Was the Trump-Putin Meeting Even About?

What Was the Trump-Putin Meeting Even About?
Aug. 15, 2025

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/15/opinion/trump-putin-alaska-meeting-ukraine.html

By Serge Schmemann

Mr. Schmemann, an Opinion writer, is a former Moscow bureau chief of The Times.

Few East-West summit meetings in modern history have been preceded by as much speculation and uncertainty as Friday’s Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska. Few, if any, have concluded with even less clarity.

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He heaped compliments on President Trump, even suggesting that Mr. Trump was right to say that had he been president at the time, there would have been no Ukraine war. He spoke at some length of Alaska’s Russian and Orthodox heritage, of the importance of turning the page in U.S.-Russian relations, of the great potential of trade between their countries (which drew a grin from Mr. Trump). But on the war in Ukraine, he went back to his old script, that to make a settlement lasting all the “root” causes of the conflict, which in his view are all on Ukraine’s side, have to be eliminated.

Mr. Trump, who before the meeting seemed to be moving toward a newly tough position on Russia — threatening “very severe consequences” if there was no cease-fire and even suggesting that Mr. Putin was playing him — seemed here to revert to his longstanding admiration for “Vladimir” (Mr. Putin did not publicly reciprocate with “Donald”). Mr. Trump happily mocked the accusations of Russian meddling in American elections — the “Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,” as he referred to it — and effusively thanked Mr. Putin for an “extremely productive meeting.” On Ukraine? Mr. Trump said “many points were agreed to” and spoke of “great progress” and “some headway,” all without any details, but acknowledged that “there’s no deal until there’s a deal.” He said he’d be calling key NATO leaders and President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to give them a readout.

Those calls may shed more light on whatever understanding the two presidents reached, and it remains possible that the meeting did achieve something that could be called progress. But it was hard to avoid the impression that Mr. Putin had once again succeeded in gaining more time for his war, which is currently going his way. When Mr. Putin quipped — in English — that the next summit should be in Moscow, Mr. Trump seemed delighted: “Ooh, that’s an interesting one,” he said, “I don’t know. I’ll get a little heat on that one, but I could see it possibly happening.”

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Serge Schmemann joined The Times in 1980 and worked as the bureau chief in Moscow, Bonn and Jerusalem and at the United Nations. He was editorial page editor of The International Herald Tribune in Paris from 2003 to 2013.




TACO is simply losing interest in trying to end the war. He said he’d be calling Zelensky and NATO, “Ultimately it’s up to them.” He was not specific, but given TACO’s self conciet in his deal-making skills and gut instincts, it sounded like he was letting this one go. No wonder for Mr. Putin’s cheeriness — and a blow to Ukraine.

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What Was the Trump-Putin Meeting Even About? (Original Post) marble falls Aug 2025 OP
The sign said, "Pursuing Peace" Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #1
To be fair: TACO has no sort of working relationship with any other nation on the planet. Even Puting and Un ... marble falls Aug 2025 #3
Apart from Jeffrey Epstein, exactly like in the rest of his life. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #6
Even Epstein put his own agenda ahead of TACO. TACO was a potential source of protection. I don't think ... marble falls Aug 2025 #7
Did you see Trump on the tarmac red carpet? Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #16
Didn't see it. I don't know what he thought yesterday would do, but waving like a four year old at daddy ... marble falls Aug 2025 #17
Wow! He wasn't waving, Trump was clapping! Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #18
It was part of his imaginary progress towards the Nobel Peace Prize . . . . hatrack Aug 2025 #2
Trump said he would end the war in 24 hours PJMcK Aug 2025 #4
That's what he said. LOL Emile Aug 2025 #5
He never said which 24 hours that would be. It certainly wasn't yesterday. marble falls Aug 2025 #8
Oooh, that's good! PJMcK Aug 2025 #10
I could, but I'd have my head in the lunchroom oven by day two. Even if it were electric. marble falls Aug 2025 #13
It was another job review that came out better for Putin the boss. Norrrm Aug 2025 #9
He gave Putin another 15 minutes. And prolonged the disaster in Ukraine. marble falls Aug 2025 #12
If I were a professor gab13by13 Aug 2025 #11
Get people to stop talking about the epstein files PSPS Aug 2025 #14
Trump fears and reveres Putin Septua Aug 2025 #15
A truly strong leader Mossfern Aug 2025 #19
Public *ick sucking sunflowerseed Aug 2025 #20
Distraction form Epstein. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #21

Kid Berwyn

(24,393 posts)
1. The sign said, "Pursuing Peace"
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:48 AM
Aug 2025

They acted like a master hypnotist manipulating his unaware imbecile.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
3. To be fair: TACO has no sort of working relationship with any other nation on the planet. Even Puting and Un ...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:52 AM
Aug 2025

... are not his friends when it comes down to it.

Kid Berwyn

(24,393 posts)
6. Apart from Jeffrey Epstein, exactly like in the rest of his life.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:02 AM
Aug 2025

No friends. No ideas. No personality. No sharing. No giving.

Dictators and Epstein see Dimdonnie as nothing but golf, gluttony, self-glorification and “girls under 35.”

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
7. Even Epstein put his own agenda ahead of TACO. TACO was a potential source of protection. I don't think ...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:05 AM
Aug 2025

Last edited Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

... he gave a rat's patootie about TACO personally.

Kid Berwyn

(24,393 posts)
16. Did you see Trump on the tarmac red carpet?
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:32 AM
Aug 2025

He was waving at the approaching Putin, like a needy and imbecilic boy awaiting approval from his evil father.

(I searched for the video from yesterday, but I cannot find that section.)

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
17. Didn't see it. I don't know what he thought yesterday would do, but waving like a four year old at daddy ...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:37 AM
Aug 2025

... getting off a plane sounds right on the money.

hatrack

(64,886 posts)
2. It was part of his imaginary progress towards the Nobel Peace Prize . . . .
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:52 AM
Aug 2025

. . . which he obviously deserves, given all that we've seen regarding Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe Biden, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, low-IQ individuals in Congress who oppose his plans to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, the Russia Russia Russia hoax and the outstanding success of The Apprentice. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
13. I could, but I'd have my head in the lunchroom oven by day two. Even if it were electric.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:11 AM
Aug 2025

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
11. If I were a professor
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:08 AM
Aug 2025

and grading the NY Times article, I would give it an F for comprehension.

It wasn't a summit meeting it was a submission meeting.

Write another article NY Times using this headline - Kabuki Theater.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
15. Trump fears and reveres Putin
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:26 AM
Aug 2025

He sees in Putin (or Xi or Kim or Orbán) the image of what he longs to be...a "strong" leader with absolute control over the country.

Disgusting...

Mossfern

(4,715 posts)
19. A truly strong leader
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:45 AM
Aug 2025

listens to and takes responsibility for the welfare of his constituents.
His heros are merely bullies.

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