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President Trump dialed into Fox & Friends on Tuesday morning and revealed his newest and truest motivation for brokering an end to the war in Ukraine: Hes worried he might not get into heaven after he dies.
I want to try and get to heaven, if possible, he explained. Im hearing Im not doing well. I am really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.
Holy mother of God! What a thing to say at 8 oclock in the morning.
This would have been a highly unusual admission from any president, but it seemed especially out of character coming from this one. The man who is regarded as a messiah by many of his own supporters a belief he has encouraged at every turn says now that he knows hes no saint.
This fear of perdition raised some questions. Chief among them: Who, exactly, has been informing the president that he is not doing well with regard to kingdom come? Did Michael the Archangel somehow get Mr. Trumps cellphone number?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/us/politics/trump-heaven.html

niyad
(126,532 posts)"FUCKING HELL, NO!!!"
NH Ethylene
(31,202 posts)"I better be a good boy so Santa will bring me presents!"
GreenWave
(11,372 posts)Clouds Passing
(5,626 posts)At the bottom of the hell hole is accurate 🔥
Kid Berwyn
(21,875 posts)Hours getting late, traitor murderer perjurer gangster fraud liar
surfered
(8,812 posts)hamsterjill
(16,401 posts)I don't believe for a minute that anything he says is sincere. He makes specific comments to get specific reactions and this one was to endear himself to the Christian Nationalists.
mwmisses4289
(1,988 posts)and he is contrite is a distraction from epstein and a great way to get his fake christian followers to pray for him.
Jerry2144
(2,956 posts)He better hurry
EYESORE 9001
(28,885 posts)Youve created so much bad karma during your time on earth - intentionally, mind you, that youll be fortunate to find yourself performing this as sufferalicious punishment:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost
Omnipresent
(7,148 posts)Does he ever look happy to you?
Hes had a life of doing sordid and vile things to his fellow man for his own personal gain.
One of the latest things is about being a part of the Epstein coverup.
He getting closer to the end now, so maybe hes having doubts about being allowed to enter the gates of Heaven.
RainCaster
(13,048 posts)Matthew 25:41-46
Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.
They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?
He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
JustAnotherGen
(36,756 posts)(and it was sudden)
She was visiting me and while out playing golf says out of the blue:
" I hope I die before him so I can push him to hell."
My mother always kept her promises, and for you astrology folks she was a Scorpio/Year of the Pig.
Rest assured - he pissed her off - and her spirit is waiting for him.
bmichaelh
(914 posts)Trump is transactional.
He thinks if he does A, should either win a Nobel Peace Prize or get into Heaven.
There was a German-American psychoanalyst, Erich Fromm that wrote a book To Have or To Be?
In the book, the writer talked about having vs being.
Trump has lived his life accumulating wealth; having.
Trump was never concerned about being.
Trump lived his entire life worried about the wrong things.
Also, has Trump ever loved anyone more than himself?
Emile
(37,045 posts)
CTyankee
(66,926 posts)sorry, I couldn't help smirking...
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,827 posts)
CTyankee
(66,926 posts)You're going to hell, pure and simple. Prepare ye, for it cometh....
Ping Tung
(3,446 posts)Heidi
(58,502 posts)Trumps hell will be that his legacy is that of a pathetic, lying LOSER who contributed absolutely nothing meaningful to the world. Hes an embarrassment whose memory even his most fervent followers will ultimately want to bury.
Totally Tunsie
(11,125 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(19,906 posts)and pedophiles go to a place where they are all together. They just have to exist with each other and there are no others to prey on.
That's kind of an interesting idea of hell.
durablend
(8,458 posts)struggle4progress
(124,184 posts)maxsolomon
(37,204 posts)And Heaven doesn't exist.
thought crime
(722 posts)Raven123
(6,973 posts)I posted this comment in another similar thread.
As one who has never asked God for forgiveness, he will be identified as an unrepentant sinner. Then he will be deported to Hell.
usonian
(19,966 posts)Crash program to produce new needles (in the USA, only)
rampartd
(2,372 posts)he treated me very badly
republianmushroom
(21,159 posts)Yuck, I'll pass. That in its self is enough to make one an atheist