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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmerican Millennials Are Dying at an Alarming Rate - Updated
https://slate.com/technology/2025/08/millennials-gen-z-death-rates-america-high.html]But what surprised us was that, from todays postpandemic vantage point, the American health disadvantage doesnt look like a pandemic story at all. The U.S. mortality disadvantage has been growing at about the same rate for years, and while it spiked during COVID-19, it still continues to rise.
Heres another way to put this: In 2023 there were about 700,000 missing Americansthose who died in 2023 but would be alive if they had lived somewhere else. And that 700,000 is almost exactly the number that we couldve predicted back in 2019, based solely on prepandemic trends. COVID and relatively low vaccine adoption are a problem for Americans. But our country seems to be, at a deeper level, a deadly place to live. Whats more, all of the studies we have (with some limited exceptions, like a study specific to California) stop before Donald Trump began his second term with enormous cuts to medical and health research and, now, to Medicaid.
There is a heatedand productivedebate about exactly why the U.S. is so much worse than our peers at keeping its populace alive. One influential theory focuses on deindustrialization and the way that Americans without a college degree in particular have been left behind. Another focuses on the way that social safety nets in this country, such as for unemployment, sickness, and pensions, remain small and insufficient compared with other wealthy countries. Others point to problems in the U.S. health care system, such as uninsurance, underinsurance, and high co-payments and deductibles, and to underlying trends in chronic diseases that might be caused by nutritional policy failures. Still others highlight Americas permissive gun laws and the large amount of time we spend in our cars.
Missing from the info they provided: In the US, health insurance is mostly tied to employment. Would like to know the % of US jobs that actually provide the opportunity to get health insurance. Older people generally have help from the Medicare they paid into throughout their working years (and still pay for out of their Social Security benefits) and that helps, even when it requires supplemental insurance. As the corporate owned GOP moves to gut Medicare, olds will be dropping dead of treatable conditions much faster. One assumes that is part of the plan of the 'Pro Life Party".
If 'LIFE' is so precious that we must abolish bodily anatomy for women, why do we, as a nation, tolerate the dismal financial arrangements for helping to provide health care while shoveling money at corporate execs who hoard it all, thus keeping it out of circulation in the economy?
And safer gun laws? Don't make me laugh. That will only happen when more CEOs get dropped and the corporate ownership class starts buying pols who will put life ahead of the gun & ammo sector.

EdmondDantes_
(858 posts)Same source says 89% of state and federal employees have it.
To note that's has access, so some won't take it for whatever reason and no doubt some won't be able to afford to use it for much.
IbogaProject
(4,903 posts)Weaker diets on average, worse pesticides, all the friction with health care each contribute to this mess. I'd say the erratic health care coverage as the worse one, especially for the Millenials and younger, as they are more likely to be uninsured. Then add in the guns, but that is a fraction of 700K.
The Madcap
(1,451 posts)If I were young, looking at my upcoming future under this government, I'd be so depressed, I'd probably decide it's all hopeless and just give up on life. Hate to say it, but at this point, I think that is a totally rational sentiment.
The young should try to get out while they can.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,312 posts)I find it nearly impossible more and more often to answer the questions "why bother" and "what's the point "
I didn't formerly feel that way
erronis
(21,179 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(104,536 posts)(it doesn't like direct linking)
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2834281
Mosby
(18,963 posts)Timeflyer
(3,383 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,265 posts)And this article paints a good picture of why Kamala Harris's campaign messaging didn't resonate for many voters.
We Democrats need to face the fact that many Americans do feel left behind and unseen. They are vulnerable to con artists like Trump unless we have a strong message.
I don't think Gavin Newsom's goofy memes are what we need. Sorry.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,717 posts)They also need to stop listening to people like Joe Rogan and his comrades in propaganda. Stop looking for some magic words to reach them, but only through activism and real information will they be able to change the trajectory of this country. The billionaires control the information highway. They must look elsewhere for truth.
Attilatheblond
(7,116 posts)yardwork
(67,854 posts)Thoughtful informed voters already know Trump is a bad bet.
Democrats need to reach the rest of the voters.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,717 posts)People dont want to hear its going to take work. We no longer have a viable news media. Stop blaming democrats for Americas myth making and narcissism. Were the greatest country in the world , we have the best healthcare system in the world and we believe in god and country. People believing bull and wanting everything to be easy, hes going to fix everything day one. Democrats have tried to make America better and when they start to put the country on the right track after republicans have screwed it up, they go back and elect republicans again. Picking on people, hating people, that is the republican message and it works.
GenThePerservering
(3,033 posts)One of our most potent weapons is mockery.
evolves
(5,627 posts)Thank you, Attila!
Attilatheblond
(7,116 posts)and thank YOU.
evolves
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