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Attilatheblond

(7,116 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 12:35 PM Aug 20

American Millennials Are Dying at an Alarming Rate - Updated

https://slate.com/technology/2025/08/millennials-gen-z-death-rates-america-high.html]

We’re mortality experts, and these facts stem from an analysis we did of death rates in 22 countries from 1980 through 2023 (the last year with reliable data). When we set out to do this research, we expected to find a story about the COVID-19 pandemic. America’s pandemic experience was much worse than that of our peers, with three U.S. deaths for every two in peer countries. Nonelderly Americans in particular were hit harder than nonelderly populations in other rich countries. This disadvantage only grew as vaccinations became available but were adopted by Americans at lower rates.

But what surprised us was that, from today’s postpandemic vantage point, the American health disadvantage doesn’t look like a pandemic story at all. The U.S. mortality disadvantage has been growing at about the same rate for years, and while it spiked during COVID-19, it still continues to rise.

Here’s another way to put this: In 2023 there were about 700,000 “missing Americans”—those who died in 2023 but would be alive if they had lived somewhere else. And that 700,000 is almost exactly the number that we could’ve predicted back in 2019, based solely on prepandemic trends. COVID and relatively low vaccine adoption are a problem for Americans. But our country seems to be, at a deeper level, a deadly place to live. What’s more, all of the studies we have (with some limited exceptions, like a study specific to California) stop before Donald Trump began his second term with enormous cuts to medical and health research and, now, to Medicaid.

There is a heated—and productive—debate about exactly why the U.S. is so much worse than our peers at keeping its populace alive. One influential theory focuses on deindustrialization and the way that Americans without a college degree in particular have been left behind. Another focuses on the way that social safety nets in this country, such as for unemployment, sickness, and pensions, remain small and insufficient compared with other wealthy countries. Others point to problems in the U.S. health care system, such as uninsurance, underinsurance, and high co-payments and deductibles, and to underlying trends in chronic diseases that might be caused by nutritional policy failures. Still others highlight America’s permissive gun laws and the large amount of time we spend in our cars.


Missing from the info they provided: In the US, health insurance is mostly tied to employment. Would like to know the % of US jobs that actually provide the opportunity to get health insurance. Older people generally have help from the Medicare they paid into throughout their working years (and still pay for out of their Social Security benefits) and that helps, even when it requires supplemental insurance. As the corporate owned GOP moves to gut Medicare, olds will be dropping dead of treatable conditions much faster. One assumes that is part of the plan of the 'Pro Life Party".

If 'LIFE' is so precious that we must abolish bodily anatomy for women, why do we, as a nation, tolerate the dismal financial arrangements for helping to provide health care while shoveling money at corporate execs who hoard it all, thus keeping it out of circulation in the economy?

And safer gun laws? Don't make me laugh. That will only happen when more CEOs get dropped and the corporate ownership class starts buying pols who will put life ahead of the gun & ammo sector.

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American Millennials Are Dying at an Alarming Rate - Updated (Original Post) Attilatheblond Aug 20 OP
I've seen different numbers, but this says about 72% of private employees EdmondDantes_ Aug 20 #1
Deadly mix of reasons IbogaProject Aug 20 #2
Don't forget rationality in this. The Madcap Aug 20 #3
I agree. FoxNewsSucks Aug 20 #10
Thanks for this important post. erronis Aug 20 #4
There are graphs at their paper muriel_volestrangler Aug 20 #5
Thanks for that. Mosby Aug 20 #7
US GOP in charge are pro-birth, not pro-life. Timeflyer Aug 20 #6
The last 3 paragraphs should be one of the main pillars Dems run on in '26 with campaigns that explain this well n/t Cheezoholic Aug 20 #8
THIS. yardwork Aug 20 #9
They need to get involved Keepthesoulalive Aug 20 #11
Want to see that chisled in stone and set up as monuments in front of the US Capitol and Independence Hall in Philly! Attilatheblond Aug 20 #12
History shows that most voters don't do that. yardwork Aug 20 #13
How Keepthesoulalive Aug 20 #14
We "need" everything GenThePerservering Aug 20 #17
Great post evolves Aug 20 #15
You are very welcome Attilatheblond Aug 20 #16
Absolutely! evolves Aug 21 #18

EdmondDantes_

(858 posts)
1. I've seen different numbers, but this says about 72% of private employees
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 12:43 PM
Aug 20
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ebs2.pdf

Same source says 89% of state and federal employees have it.

To note that's has access, so some won't take it for whatever reason and no doubt some won't be able to afford to use it for much.

IbogaProject

(4,903 posts)
2. Deadly mix of reasons
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 12:50 PM
Aug 20

Weaker diets on average, worse pesticides, all the friction with health care each contribute to this mess. I'd say the erratic health care coverage as the worse one, especially for the Millenials and younger, as they are more likely to be uninsured. Then add in the guns, but that is a fraction of 700K.

The Madcap

(1,451 posts)
3. Don't forget rationality in this.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:18 PM
Aug 20

If I were young, looking at my upcoming future under this government, I'd be so depressed, I'd probably decide it's all hopeless and just give up on life. Hate to say it, but at this point, I think that is a totally rational sentiment.

The young should try to get out while they can.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,312 posts)
10. I agree.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:44 PM
Aug 20

I find it nearly impossible more and more often to answer the questions "why bother" and "what's the point "

I didn't formerly feel that way

Mosby

(18,963 posts)
7. Thanks for that.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:56 PM
Aug 20
...The rising trend from 1980 to 2019 appears to have continued during and after the pandemic, likely reflecting prepandemic causes of death, including drug overdose, firearm injury, and cardiometabolic disease.6 These deaths highlight the continued consequences of US health system inadequacies, economic inequality, and social and political determinants of health.

Cheezoholic

(3,265 posts)
8. The last 3 paragraphs should be one of the main pillars Dems run on in '26 with campaigns that explain this well n/t
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:04 PM
Aug 20

yardwork

(67,854 posts)
9. THIS.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:10 PM
Aug 20

And this article paints a good picture of why Kamala Harris's campaign messaging didn't resonate for many voters.

We Democrats need to face the fact that many Americans do feel left behind and unseen. They are vulnerable to con artists like Trump unless we have a strong message.

I don't think Gavin Newsom's goofy memes are what we need. Sorry.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,717 posts)
11. They need to get involved
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 03:08 PM
Aug 20

They also need to stop listening to people like Joe Rogan and his comrades in propaganda. Stop looking for some magic words to reach them, but only through activism and real information will they be able to change the trajectory of this country. The billionaires control the information highway. They must look elsewhere for truth.

Attilatheblond

(7,116 posts)
12. Want to see that chisled in stone and set up as monuments in front of the US Capitol and Independence Hall in Philly!
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 03:32 PM
Aug 20

yardwork

(67,854 posts)
13. History shows that most voters don't do that.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 03:47 PM
Aug 20

Thoughtful informed voters already know Trump is a bad bet.

Democrats need to reach the rest of the voters.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,717 posts)
14. How
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 04:06 PM
Aug 20

People don’t want to hear it’s going to take work. We no longer have a viable news media. Stop blaming democrats for Americas myth making and narcissism. We’re the greatest country in the world , we have the best healthcare system in the world and we believe in god and country. People believing bull and wanting everything to be easy, he’s going to fix everything day one. Democrats have tried to make America better and when they start to put the country on the right track after republicans have screwed it up, they go back and elect republicans again. Picking on people, hating people, that is the republican message and it works.

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