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Pototan

(2,852 posts)
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 08:55 AM Aug 23

Ghislaine Maxwell's Tapes Are Bad For MAGATs

Maxwell says she never saw Trump act "inappropriately", clearing him. She also said Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and all other high-profile men on the plane and hanging around Epstein also never had sex with underage girls.

So, if you think Clinton and Prince Andrew are guilty, that puts Trump in the same boat. Her interview was laughable and makes MAGAts look foolish.

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Ghislaine Maxwell's Tapes Are Bad For MAGATs (Original Post) Pototan Aug 23 OP
He's using a proven child rapist, child trafficker and convicted perjurer as his character reference. Scrivener7 Aug 23 #1
Her recording vs Rep Garcia? JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #3
The transcript will be nothing but Maxwell covering her perverted butt and lying whenever necessary to do that. Scrivener7 Aug 23 #7
Only 3% of JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #12
it's never made money. mopinko Aug 23 #19
It doesn't need to. It's just for money laundering. Scrivener7 Aug 23 #21
This post makes me smile JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #24
and ftr- ppl do protest there, all the time. mopinko Aug 23 #25
A few years ago JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #29
my bil made miniatures for a while. mopinko Aug 23 #33
I was in Chicago on Memorial Day. louis-t Aug 23 #28
n/s JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #30
Would be a surprise but that's the strategy supporting the whole administration. bucolic_frolic Aug 23 #5
She's still between JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #2
I am waiting for a Woodward and Bernstein to release the real files. gab13by13 Aug 23 #4
Woodward and Bernstein don't exist in today's media mdbl Aug 23 #13
Maxwell was teaching girlscouts how to make cookies. Tribetime Aug 23 #6
In the real world yes but they got their headline/meme underpants Aug 23 #8
Maxwell can't accuse Clinton, Prince Andrew or anyone else associated with Epstein of "inappropriate" behavior. sop Aug 23 #9
As of this morning, per MSNBC vapor2 Aug 23 #10
G.O.P. Pedo Protection Plan is sleazily sliding along BoRaGard Aug 23 #14
I thought Khanna JustAnotherGen Aug 23 #15
Hey Maxwell, Jeffrey Dahmer's mother actually never witnessed him eating another human... RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 23 #11
Ghislaine was probably in the room recording it all. Those recordings are her Get Out of Jail Free card. sop Aug 23 #16
Bingo! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 23 #34
Welp, you know the old saying Hornedfrog2000 Aug 23 #17
Just like their logo. Qutzupalotl Aug 23 #37
All we need to know is the DOJ "attorney" interviewed just one person-- the sexual predator-- and presents her lies. viva la Aug 23 #18
She is so obviously angling for a pardon it proves her guilt. Any hard evidence that she is lying should land her back Martin68 Aug 23 #20
People like... 2naSalit Aug 23 #22
whether or not they blackmail for other things, they sure mopinko Aug 23 #26
Blackmail works both ways... Martin68 Aug 23 #40
true. mopinko Aug 24 #41
This Bayard Aug 23 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 23 #36
When the scandal broke out, several women accused some men of abusing them when they were minors. Beacool Aug 23 #23
u know if they cd find 1 mopinko Aug 23 #27
Exactly!! Beacool Aug 23 #39
What little I heard seemed like weasel words. ariadne0614 Aug 23 #31
She also says she is innocent. But we can all see the evidence which convicted her. RockRaven Aug 23 #32
Just ask them to explain why a pedo-pimp is in Club Fed on work-release Mysterian Aug 23 #38

Scrivener7

(56,990 posts)
1. He's using a proven child rapist, child trafficker and convicted perjurer as his character reference.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 08:59 AM
Aug 23

We would think that fact would make even maga see he's lying, but I'm not holding my breath.

JustAnotherGen

(36,863 posts)
3. Her recording vs Rep Garcia?
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:04 AM
Aug 23

I'll wait for his assessment of the 33K pages.

Meanwhile, Krasnov is going to inflict horror upon horror on Democratic cities, counties, and States.

We have to abide. We have to lower case tOlerate while Elected Democrats get through the documents so they can report back to us who is in there.

Today would be a good day for the people of Chicago to start 24*7 protests at the Krasnov Tower. Make it lose money.

Scrivener7

(56,990 posts)
7. The transcript will be nothing but Maxwell covering her perverted butt and lying whenever necessary to do that.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:13 AM
Aug 23

mopinko

(72,908 posts)
19. it's never made money.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:44 AM
Aug 23

the ground floor retail has NEVER had a tenant, and the only ppl who go to the bar r magats.
i dont think the hotel is doing much better, and the condo sales r weak.

mopinko

(72,908 posts)
25. and ftr- ppl do protest there, all the time.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 12:31 PM
Aug 23

and tourists love to take a pic w it in the background and their middle finger in the foreground.

JustAnotherGen

(36,863 posts)
29. A few years ago
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 12:42 PM
Aug 23

For our anniversary we went into NYC to go to the Museum of Natural History, walk through Central Park, go to Manhattan Dollhouse (I'm a miniaturist), visit WTC, have dinner at the top.

Walking past Krasnov Tower they had an impressionist out there waving.

That is the biggest, hip dip bird I've ever thrown.😃 Lots of people were. I was also passed by his entourage driving home from Secaucus one day and threw it there. Fuck that guy. Fuck Bedminster. With the weather changing I hope it gets busted up in a tornado.

mopinko

(72,908 posts)
33. my bil made miniatures for a while.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 01:17 PM
Aug 23

back in the 70’s. george becker. made a big name for himself, but it caused some friction at home. 1 day he just up and quit. he has a harpsichord in colleen moore’s fairy castle.
i have several of his pieces. they’re crazy good. u can find them on ebay now and then. he had some reproductions made, tho, and sellers dont understand about that. which is good and bad. they sorta set the price, and u can get the 1offs for about the same price. they’re much more interesting.

louis-t

(24,449 posts)
28. I was in Chicago on Memorial Day.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 12:38 PM
Aug 23

Our hotel was right next to shithead tower. Our group wanted to go up to the 'scenic terrace' or whatever they call it. We went into the restaurant on the 12th floor (I think) and started to go out the doors to the terrace when a hostess snarled that we needed to "buy something" before we could go out there. We said we would and went out and took photos on the terrace. We never bought anything and left. There was talk of urinating in the elevator on the way down but there were probably cameras....

bucolic_frolic

(52,169 posts)
5. Would be a surprise but that's the strategy supporting the whole administration.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:06 AM
Aug 23

Crooks supporting crooks to climb the career ladder.

JustAnotherGen

(36,863 posts)
2. She's still between
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 08:59 AM
Aug 23

The hammer and the anvil.

We all speculated that she would clear Krasnov and throw high profile Democrats under the bus.

Regardless - she lied under oath.

Congressman Garcia said he has started reading the 33K pages. I'll wait for his assessment.

gab13by13

(29,612 posts)
4. I am waiting for a Woodward and Bernstein to release the real files.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:06 AM
Aug 23

Probably gonna be waiting a while. Maybe when the full Mueller report is released?

mdbl

(7,255 posts)
13. Woodward and Bernstein don't exist in today's media
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:08 AM
Aug 23

unless they are on Fux Nooze hating liberals.

underpants

(192,570 posts)
8. In the real world yes but they got their headline/meme
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:13 AM
Aug 23

and that’s sadly all it takes now.

sop

(15,786 posts)
9. Maxwell can't accuse Clinton, Prince Andrew or anyone else associated with Epstein of "inappropriate" behavior.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:28 AM
Aug 23

Maxwell wants a pardon, she still maintains her complete innocence. It would be laughable were Maxwell to accuse Clinton and others of having sex with underage girls while at the same time claiming Trump was the only man who never did anything wrong. Ghislaine has to exonerate everyone, not just Trump, otherwise she's admitting her own guilt.

vapor2

(2,972 posts)
10. As of this morning, per MSNBC
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:28 AM
Aug 23

only 1% of the records have been turned over and most were old (already released) records. DHS dragging their effn feet

JustAnotherGen

(36,863 posts)
15. I thought Khanna
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:13 AM
Aug 23

Said 3% was new info? The lawyers worked all night to get that information.

11. Hey Maxwell, Jeffrey Dahmer's mother actually never witnessed him eating another human...
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:56 AM
Aug 23

but guess what!

sop

(15,786 posts)
16. Ghislaine was probably in the room recording it all. Those recordings are her Get Out of Jail Free card.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:18 AM
Aug 23

Will anyone really be surprised when we eventually learn Epstein, Maxwell, Melania and Trump were Russian operatives gathering kompromat on the rich and powerful?

viva la

(4,260 posts)
18. All we need to know is the DOJ "attorney" interviewed just one person-- the sexual predator-- and presents her lies.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 23

And does NOT talk to the survivors who testified in court, and whom the jurors believed.

So of all the people involved in that trial-- the judge, the jury, the witnesses, the prosecutors, the survivors--
the president's defense attorney seeks out and believes the one convicted of sexual trafficking.

Martin68

(26,402 posts)
20. She is so obviously angling for a pardon it proves her guilt. Any hard evidence that she is lying should land her back
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 10:59 AM
Aug 23

in a real prison. I doubt there is an actual "list" - who keeps a list like that? But there is probably hard evidence in photographs or text that the men In question did indeed participate in the pedophillic orgies on Epstein's island.

2naSalit

(97,676 posts)
22. People like...
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 11:26 AM
Aug 23

Epstein and maxwell take videos and keep such files as compromat on the participants in order to control them.

mopinko

(72,908 posts)
26. whether or not they blackmail for other things, they sure
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 12:33 PM
Aug 23

blackmail them to keep their mouths shut.

Bayard

(26,794 posts)
35. This
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 01:53 PM
Aug 23

I'm betting there were video cameras all over the place. I'll also bet they are not in the, "transcripts.)

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #22)

Beacool

(30,443 posts)
23. When the scandal broke out, several women accused some men of abusing them when they were minors.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 11:31 AM
Aug 23

Prince Andrew was one of those men accused of taking advantage of minor girls. Not one woman came out and accused Bill Clinton of anything. I think that MAGATS were hoping that Bill, and other Democrats, were on the "list". Maxwell disappointed them.

Beacool

(30,443 posts)
39. Exactly!!
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 09:02 PM
Aug 23

None of them were called by Epstein their "closest friend for ten years" like he said of Trump.

ariadne0614

(2,024 posts)
31. What little I heard seemed like weasel words.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 12:51 PM
Aug 23

She referred to him as President Trump, or the President, not Donald or Mister Trump. Technically, she could have been saying she never saw him engage in sexual behavior with underage girls as president.

RockRaven

(17,789 posts)
32. She also says she is innocent. But we can all see the evidence which convicted her.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 01:05 PM
Aug 23

When a MAGAt wants to wave her words around as a sign of Trump's innocence, her denial about her own behavior is the thing which renders those words worthless.

Engaging in whataboutisms of Clinton or Andrew is a distraction and a waste of time. I'm not in a fucking cult, I have no need or want to defend Clinton. That burden is not on me or the Democratic Party. If someone can prove he did anything, go ahead and do so -- and then punish him as would be deserved. If not, STFU -- it isn't relevant to Trump's actions.

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