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bucolic_frolic

(52,234 posts)
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 05:45 PM Aug 24

To be clear, if you bought $100 million in US Treasuries

you would want one thing: sharply lower interest rates because the price of your bonds would go up.

You lower interest rates by lobbying the Fed, and it's unusual for that strategy to motivate the Fed, OR you want a faltering economy so the Fed will lower interest rates as a matter of policy.

You crash the economy by shrinking demand by deporting workers and by raising prices with tariffs. When recession strikes, the Fed does what it always does. It lowers interest rates.

Just throwing this out there, what did I miss?

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To be clear, if you bought $100 million in US Treasuries (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Aug 24 OP
Everything single thing Trump does directly benefits himself personally in some way. Irish_Dem Aug 24 #1
You're correct snowybirdie Aug 24 #2
It's not that simple. Mosby Aug 24 #3
Bonds trade in an open market. When rates go down, bond prices go up bucolic_frolic Aug 24 #5
With T-bills you don't get paid interest. Igel Aug 24 #6
That's true. But sometimes, those are circumstances that cause bond defaults or increases risk. Silent Type Aug 24 #4

snowybirdie

(6,313 posts)
2. You're correct
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 06:08 PM
Aug 24

I once worked in the industry and thought that immediately after I read that. Nothing for the nation, all for himself!

Mosby

(18,975 posts)
3. It's not that simple.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 06:23 PM
Aug 24

No one makes that much on tbills, bonds or notes. It's a place to park money, mostly.

According to your example, your bonds have a locked in rate, interest rates don't affect your yield because the bond rates don't change.

bucolic_frolic

(52,234 posts)
5. Bonds trade in an open market. When rates go down, bond prices go up
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 07:24 PM
Aug 24

because the yield is higher than the new reduced yield. Investors are willing to pay more for the old bond with a higher interest rate than the new bond with a lower one.

Igel

(37,083 posts)
6. With T-bills you don't get paid interest.
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 08:39 PM
Aug 24

You get a break on the purchase price. You don't get paid the interest up front, but when you get paid the face value of your bonds there's the interest.

For example ... I know when my car and house insurance are due each year, and I know when my HOA/property taxes are due. Over time I've squirreled enough away to handle each of them well in advance, but don't want to keep the $ sitting in my bank account. Things happen. Accts get hacked, I get stupid. T-bills are a safe place to plop money where it's really hard to be stupid with.

So knowing that I'd need maybe $7k by early July this year, I sank $7000 in 26-week T-bills in early January--saved up for it through the fall and early winter (with my winter bills already covered by money set aside in June. Right on cue, 7/2, $7000 was plopped into my checking account. But on January 2, 2025, what was withdrawn from my account? 6,853.67. What was the interest? 7000 - 6,853.67 = 146.33.

Federal interest rate changes +5 or -4? Sorry, that's irrelevant. On 7/2 I was getting $7000 unless the Treasury defaulted.

They're special. They're not like municipal or corporate bonds.


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