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Miles Archer

(20,056 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:33 AM Monday

I'm not an Abrego Garcia scholar. I don't know his life inside and out. But this obsession, this vendetta, is ridiculous

Noem makes my skin crawl...from shooting her puppy and a goat in the gravel pit to her spread-eagle antics with Trump's shaved ape knuckle dragging punk-assed thug Lewandowski.

But this Abrego Garcia thing reeks of the stench of desperation...a pathological need to prove that a 79 year old adjudicated rapist and convicted felon is keeping America "safe" from people like Garcia.

Meanwhile, "white collar crime" will never see the inside of a courthouse while this pig is in power. And, odds are 50-50 AT MINIMUM that he'll pardon Ghislane Maxwell.

28 min ago
Abrego Garcia has been taken into custody by ICE, his lawyer says
From CNN’s Priscilla Alvarez and Michael Williams

Kilmar Abrego Garcia was taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement shortly after turning himself in, his lawyer said.

“Mr. Abrego Garcia was taken into custody by ICE this morning,” attorney Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg told a crowd outside an ICE facility in Baltimore, where he was ordered to report after being released from custody pending a trial on federal charges.

US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Abrego Garcia is being processed for deportation.

“Today, ICE law enforcement arrested Kilmar Abrego Garcia and are processing him for deportation,” Noem said on X.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-news-08-25-25#cmer2lryd00003b6nen2ab5y7
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I'm not an Abrego Garcia scholar. I don't know his life inside and out. But this obsession, this vendetta, is ridiculous (Original Post) Miles Archer Monday OP
My (un)educated guess underpants Monday #1
Exactly. They have no case against him. So they must destroy him. Irish_Dem Monday #3
"Dear leader can never be wrong..." Ahhhh LaRaven Monday #12
Dear Leader must also be praised. underpants Monday #18
GQP want to make an example of him any means necessary............ Lovie777 Monday #2
Dementia patients latch on to a thing. Blue Full Moon Monday #4
Somehow Garcia caught their attention and they are making him the face of their brutal policies. Katinfl Monday #5
The history as I understand it surfered Monday #6
They are painting them out to be such a menace. And he's never done anything wrong in this country. Walleye Monday #8
They keep calling him a wife beater, and a human smuggler, he's never been indicted or convicted Walleye Monday #7
He was given the option to go to Costa Rica. I would have taken it. Sometimes you just can't fight the system. LeftInTX Monday #9
I think the "option" was prison in the US first after pleading guilty to human smuggling, and then to Costa Rica muriel_volestrangler Monday #13
OK...So, he's in a bad spot. LeftInTX Monday #15
Someone who I'm a familiar with was arrested for human smuggling in 2023. LeftInTX Monday #17
You're right to ridicule a man who's so afraid of losing he manufactures wins. Iggo Monday #10
This is just "CYA" on massive amounts of steroids and sadism. GoCubsGo Monday #11
Trump has a pathological need to never apologise, and to always have an excuse muriel_volestrangler Monday #14
Trump has chosen to die on Abrego Garcia Hill. Backing off would show weakness, and MAGA wouldn't approve.. sop Monday #16
Ideologically driven vureaucrats can't admit they made an error Warpy Monday #19
"They're throwing the entire federal apparatus at one father of three to prove that no one should dare challenge their a Demovictory9 Monday #20
Deadline: Legal Blog-Abrego's criminal case was always a farce. The government's latest actions show why LetMyPeopleVote Monday #21

underpants

(192,436 posts)
1. My (un)educated guess
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:36 AM
Monday

Isn't it likely that this is because their trafficking case is so bad/weak?

He is the living embodiment of Trump being wrong AND multiple people in the Clustertrump swore he’d never be allowed to stay in this country. Dear Leader can never be wrong you know.

So they whisk him away so there are no interviews and the case never has to go to trial.

LaRaven

(200 posts)
12. "Dear leader can never be wrong..." Ahhhh
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:52 AM
Monday

Is this why he has to remind himself on a cap?

I like “Newsom was Right about Everything!” So much better.

Blue Full Moon

(2,690 posts)
4. Dementia patients latch on to a thing.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:57 AM
Monday

This country is being led by someone that would have already been court ordered into a nursing home. I have unfortunately been around this my entire life. Demand his medical records. They were projecting tRump's dementia onto Biden to make it alright for them to actually do it.

Katinfl

(461 posts)
5. Somehow Garcia caught their attention and they are making him the face of their brutal policies.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:02 AM
Monday

He is simply a man in the wrong place at the wrong time and he is their example of what will happen. When will this country realize anyone of us could be caught in the same situation? Shame on the US that voted for this.

surfered

(8,783 posts)
6. The history as I understand it
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:05 AM
Monday

He came to this country at 16.
He was deported to an El Salvadoran prison by an administration mistake.
After a month in that prison, a judges ordered his returned to US.
Where he was arrested and charged with trafficking.
He was offered a plea agreement with deportation to Costa Rica.
He refused the deal.
The main witness against him is a three time convicted felon who will not be deported in exchange for his testimony.
Garcia was arrested today when he showed up for his immigration hearing.
The government is now trying to deport him to….Uganda?
WTF?

Walleye

(42,121 posts)
8. They are painting them out to be such a menace. And he's never done anything wrong in this country.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:09 AM
Monday

Walleye

(42,121 posts)
7. They keep calling him a wife beater, and a human smuggler, he's never been indicted or convicted
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:07 AM
Monday

But Trump, who has been adjudicated as a rapist and indicted and convicted as a fraud, will sue anyone that calls him a rapist. That simple. Abrego Garcia doesn’t have a lot of money so they can call him anything they want in public. The Attorney General calls him a wife beater, and a smuggler with no evidence. The case against him was dropped, and they’ve never actually charged him with smuggling, as far as I know. they are obsessed with him because he speaks Spanish and they can’t stand that

LeftInTX

(33,267 posts)
9. He was given the option to go to Costa Rica. I would have taken it. Sometimes you just can't fight the system.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:11 AM
Monday

SCOTUS said Trump can deport people to Uganda. Unfortunately, Trump is going to make an example of him. It seems like immigrants have very few rights these days.

I wish him well, but I'm not optimistic.

Costa Rica said he would live freely and would be given refugee status.
If he is deported to Uganda, but can still go to Costa Rica after he is deported, I guess it's worth the fight.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,449 posts)
13. I think the "option" was prison in the US first after pleading guilty to human smuggling, and then to Costa Rica
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:22 AM
Monday
Over the weekend, his lawyers accused the Trump administration of seeking to “coerce” a guilty plea from him on the charges of human smuggling that were brought against him in an indictment in June.

The lawyers said that the administration had promised to send him to Costa Rica, where he could live freely as a legal resident, if he pleaded to the charges and agreed to serve whatever prison sentence he eventually received. Otherwise, the lawyers said, Trump officials said they would deport Mr. Abrego Garcia “halfway across the world” to Uganda, where, the lawyers said, “his safety and liberty would be under threat.”

https://archive.ph/QblRc
(New York Times archive)

LeftInTX

(33,267 posts)
15. OK...So, he's in a bad spot.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:37 AM
Monday

So, they will deport in him to Uganda in lieu of a criminal trial?

LeftInTX

(33,267 posts)
17. Someone who I'm a familiar with was arrested for human smuggling in 2023.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:54 AM
Monday

I have no idea what happened with that case. I think charges were dropped. He's still running around town doing whatever. He's never been a friendly guy. (Born US citizen. Has a few DUI's etc)

GoCubsGo

(34,218 posts)
11. This is just "CYA" on massive amounts of steroids and sadism.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:28 AM
Monday

They arrested a man under false pretenses, because they're hell-bent on reaching some deportation quota. His arrest, and the response to it, exposed them. There has been tons of outrage over it, and rather than admit fault, they've been doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down, turning him into the villain. They're doing everything they can to make Mr. Garcia pay for their fuck-up, and they're getting off on his suffering to boot, because they're a bunch of sadistic fucks.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,449 posts)
14. Trump has a pathological need to never apologise, and to always have an excuse
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:27 AM
Monday

His acolytes fucked up and sent an innocent man to a max security hellhole in El Salvador - a bureaucratic mistake, basically. So they have had to manufacture reasons for not accepting him back - "it's not up to us" (it was), and then why he's a Bad Man (he was a gang member, because he had a tattoo, or he was "smuggling people" ) who deserves to be in prison, Uganda etc.

sop

(15,718 posts)
16. Trump has chosen to die on Abrego Garcia Hill. Backing off would show weakness, and MAGA wouldn't approve..
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:51 AM
Monday

Warpy

(113,864 posts)
19. Ideologically driven vureaucrats can't admit they made an error
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:31 PM
Monday

because that would threaten their ideology. Think Adolf Euchmann, a drap and colorless little man who sent thousands to die.

If you want to understand what happens to people who get caught up in this unnecessary bullshit, I suggest you read this book, it's a total gem about how a nobody (which Garcia would seem to be) becomes a focal point for their insanity.

https://www.amazon.com/Fixer-Novel-FSG-Classics/dp/0374529388/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34L5XVO0JJTJF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.minpY2hWtcjMwuFz-9EEwZrYXKCVZYYA0nJz77YHA-DIgEB6QdSDbp8-4FyO0n7JriwDnc6gDiFWFP_Gt--vgZYA69UWrBIMX9N9TEpESIk.qzHDPJgWcyEDxSU8SRjQcf48xPd_Xvqx91zrnLwUYvY&dib_tag=se&keywords=bernard+malamud+the+fixer&qid=1756138679&sprefix=bernard+malamud+the+fixer%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-1

"The Fixer" by Malamud is one of those dark novels that will stay with you for years and I think he nailed the mindset perfectly

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
20. "They're throwing the entire federal apparatus at one father of three to prove that no one should dare challenge their a
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:44 PM
Monday

“They’re throwing the entire federal apparatus at one father of three to prove that no one should dare challenge their authority,”

LetMyPeopleVote

(168,798 posts)
21. Deadline: Legal Blog-Abrego's criminal case was always a farce. The government's latest actions show why
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 02:17 PM
Monday

Attorney General Pam Bondi previously touted the importance of Abrego’s criminal charges. Now the government wants to deport him to Uganda.

Abrego’s criminal case was always a farce. The government’s latest actions show why.
Attorney General Pam Bondi previously touted the importance of Abrego’s criminal charges. Now the government wants to deport him to Uganda.
www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...

Nate (@palm7x.bsky.social) 2025-08-25T14:33:01.009Z

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/kilmar-abrego-garcia-criminal-case-pam-bondi-rcna226934

But a court filing from Abrego’s lawyers over the weekend shows that the administration has taken its vengeance to a new level. According to the filing, on Thursday — the day before he would be released — the government told his counsel that if he agreed to stay in custody and plead guilty, then he could be deported to Costa Rica after he serves whatever sentence the court would impose. Like El Salvador, Costa Rica is a Spanish-speaking country in Central America.....

After his release, an immigration official said the government now wants to deport him to the African nation of Uganda. He was ordered to report to a Baltimore immigration office on Monday morning and was given until then either to accept the Costa Rica deal “or else that offer will be off the table forever,” Abrego’s lawyers wrote in the Saturday filing......

I should note that in criminal cases across the country — ones you’ve never heard of and never will — prosecutors make plea offers that force defendants to make choices that would put them in bad situations immediately to avoid worse fates down the line. Against that backdrop, it’s unsurprising that most cases don’t go to trial. In the ones that do, defendants who are convicted face greater punishment than they would have faced had they pleaded guilty, a phenomenon that’s been called “the trial penalty.” So at least from the defense’s vantage point, there’s an element of legalized coercion baked into the system.

In that light, it’s understandable that not everyone sees American justice as a righteous concept to begin with. But it can always be further degraded.

The Trump administration seems hellbent on such degradation. Having embarrassed itself with the illegal removal of Abrego and failure to quickly fix it, it’s now acting as a sort of dystopian travel agent in a desperate bid to avoid a criminal case that it didn’t have to bring in the first place.

Rather than ensuring that Abrego “face justice,” as Bondi proclaimed upon his U.S. return, the government appears to be trying to save face. No matter what happens next, that won’t be possible in the eyes of people who’ve been paying attention. The damage to American justice has been done.
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