How much longer are they going to kick around Kilmar Abrego Garcia?

[milestogo]

What was his crime? What is his sentence?

Why is he in the news as much as Jeffrey Epstein?

[kentuck]

1. As long as there is silence and no one speaks up for him.

What happens if he ends up in Uganda?

[milestogo]

6. Contrary to what is being said, they do speak English in Uganda.

I imagine he would still have some difficulty, but it depends if he is being sent to a prison or sent to live there.

[Arazi]

15. That's the problem with Uganda, they refuse to say if they'll imprison our deportees

Or what will happen to them once they get there.

Costa Rica (and other countries) have specifically said how third-country US deportees will be treated - basically as refugees with resettlement status.

Beyond that, KAG probably now has enough support to get himself out of Uganda and seek asylum elsewhere with his family to follow. His case is now notorious enough he definitely meets the criteria for political persecution.

[SheltieLover]

2. EPSTEIN, MAXWELL & MALARIA

[Arazi]

3. Forever. Sad to say his days in the US are coming to an end

But his case is going to be cited by this DHS and DOJ for eternity.

I doubt he ever gets relief from their unrelenting assault. He’s become their poster child now dammit

[Deep State Witch]

4. I've Got to Say this for Kilmar

He is NOT backing down! A lesser person would have taken the plea deal and gone to Costa Rica - even though he has not committed any crime. Frankly, if I was his lawyer, I'd respond back with "No plea deal. You send me and my family to Costa Rica on the government's dime, and I won't sue you for wrongful imprisonment and/or defamation of character. I guarantee you will never hear from any of us ever again."

[HappyH]

8. In normal times this would be a good option.

With our current government there is no evidence that they will keep their end of any deal.

[Johonny]

5. Trump only has enemies

If you get on his list, you never get off. See windmills.

[RoeVWade]

7. Given that he probably is going to be deported, I'd like to see Stephen Colbert hire him to do bits on Trump from

whatever country he is in. Trolling trump, until we can actually get rid of, gives me a little joy. Trump is a troll himself.

[Ocelot II]

9. They deported him by mistake in the first place and couldn't admit they'd screwed up.

The sensible and proper thing to do would have been to just return him to his family with as little fanfare as possible and drop the whole thing. Buuuut NOOOOO, that would be an admission that ICE Barbie and her goons had messed up, and that wasn't on, so instead of just sending him home and going on to the next poor bastard, they had to go phony up all sorts of claims that he was the worst person who ever walked the earth - a gang member, a human trafficker, and god knows what else, to justify their initial fuckup, turning him into a human pinball while revealing what a terrible farce the whole thing is.

[Solly Mack]

10. Yep. And now they'll do anything to claim a win.

[LeftInTX]

13. Wouldn't that time in El Salvador be considered "time served" for the smuggling case?

If I were him, I would plead no contest, time served, I'll go to Costa Rica.

Unfortunately, I think they can deport him. They can deport people for misdemeanors etc. (I think it's at the whim of the president) I had a relative deported for, "Likely to be a charge". My grandmother was deported because she had an eye infection.

Abrego's status was that he had a removal order, but couldn't be deported to El Salvador.

Abrego Garcia also applied for "withholding of removal" status.[63] This request was granted by immigration judge David M. Jones, who issued a removal order but barred deportation to El Salvador,

So, at this point in 2019, he can't go back to El Salvador and ICE decided not to deport him to a third country, because yeah, it certainly wasn't worth the hassle. They allow him to stay here, work permit etc etc. However, all that stuff is subjective. He can still be deported to third country because he has a removal order, but was allowed to stay. See how subjective this is. These days they are deporting people for just about anything....Along comes Trump and his El Salvador prison BS. Abrego is sent there because they aren't doing due diligence. .Because it never occurred to them that there was an actual order out there or they didn't give a shit. Who knows how many they sent to that prison who had orders, but they didn't speak up?? And Trump's standoff against a court order and that awful prison etc etc etc....

Anyway, if I were him, I would just want to go to Costa Rica and get out of this shithole

[SickOfTheOnePct]

16. The deportation to El Salvador may have been a mistake...

...because he wasn't permitted to be deported there, but the deportation itself wasn't. He's under a deportation order, so it's just a matter of where they send him, not if.

[Ocelot II]

18. The underlying problem, and the heart of the case, is that he never received any due process

before he was deported in the first place. Even undocumented immigrants have the right to challenge their removal before it happens. The point is that he is entitled to a fair trial, not that he cannot be deported at all. If Abrego had received a hearing before he was flown to El Salvador, he could have shown why he should not have to go back there. Trump's goons deported him to El Salvador's gulag before any court could intervene.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

20. He had his due process when the deportation order was finalized

He shouldn't have been sent to El Salvador, full stop - there was a court order against it, and Trump's team violated that court order.
I'm not arguing that point at all.

But what due process is left to him regarding deportation is about where they will send him. They can't send him to El Salvador, and he, for obvious reasons, doesn't want to go to Uganda. Now, if he can show (and it should be easy to do so) that he'll be in danger in Uganda, then the court isn't going to let them send him there.

But Costa Rica has already said they would take him, and he would have refugee status there, so my guess is that's where he'll end up.

My point is that them shipping him illegally to El Salvador doesn't void his deportation order.

[MichMan]

21. Yes he did

Here is the document from his immigration hearing. His asylum claim was denied and his application under CAT guidelines (Convention Against Torture) was also denied. His application for Withholding or Removal was granted, but the document actually states he can't be deported to Guatemala, not El Salvador. He is not protected from being deported anywhere else.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25916382-kilmar-abrego-garcia-ij-order-dated-10-10-2019/

[MichMan]

19. It is even more murky

The 2019 immigration hearing document states that he can't be deported to Guatemala. While it is mentioned he was from El Salvador, the withholding from removal order specifically references Guatemala. Also indicates that his asylum claim was denied along with his application under CAT (Convention Against Torture) which was also denied.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25916382-kilmar-abrego-garcia-ij-order-dated-10-10-2019/

https://tennesseestar.com/news/immigration-judges-2019-order-found-kilmar-abrego-garcia-subject-to-removal-by-deportation-but-granted-withholding-of-removal-to-guatemala-though-referencing-el-salvador/tpappert/2025/04/22/

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Color me dark, but they'll continue until he "commits suicide".

[Mysterian]

12. All crimes by the criminals of the current regime must be punished harshly

when the rule of law is re-established in this country. The crazy fascist minority and the evil propaganda outlets that fuel sedition must be destroyed.

[BigMin28]

14. An American Truth and Reconciliation

Commitee, but not so forgiving as South Africa. The consequences must be real.

[Patton French]

17. He deserves a medal of some kind for what he's had to endure.

NT

[WarGamer]

22. He's raised approx $300,000 on GFM...

Would have been a great start on Costa Rica, I'm surprised he didn't take the deal with his family.