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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeadline: Legal Blog--D.C. grand jurors send stark message to Pirro and Trump in sandwich case
The people of Washington, D.C., are rejecting the administrations use of the criminal law as a show of force in the nations capital.
D.C. grand jurors send stark message to Pirro and Trump in sandwich case www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...
— (@jwwcan.bsky.social) 2025-08-27T19:12:30.802Z
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/dc-sandwich-thrower-sean-charles-dunn-grand-jury-rcna227549
When I wrote about the shocking triple failure of prosecutors in Washington, D.C., to secure an indictment in the case of an alleged assault against a federal agent, I noted that the rejection raised the prospect that the case against sandwich thrower Sean Charles Dunn might not make it past the grand jury stage, either.
That prospect may have been realized Tuesday, when a grand jury refused to approve a felony charge against him, as The New York Times reported Wednesday......
While the Sidney Reid case is eye-popping due to the number of times (three) that D.C. grand jurors refused to approve a felony case against her, Dunns case could signal something at least as significant in response to the Trump administrations show of force.
After his arrest earlier this month, the administration sought to make an example of the man who, notably, was working for the Justice Department. According to the initial complaint and statement of facts filed against him, Dunn allegedly called federal agents fascists, said he didnt want them in my city and str[uck] an immigration agent in the chest with a sub-style sandwich.......
In his case and others, the DOJ would do well to bear in mind what Reids lawyers said in connection with her now-reduced prosecution. They said theyre anxious to present the misdemeanor case to a jury and to quickly clear Ms. Reids name, and that Pirro can try to concoct crimes to quiet the people, but in our criminal justice system, the citizens have the last word.
The last words havent been spoken yet in these cases. But the first words the citizens of D.C. are speaking should ring loudly in the administrations ears. They seem to echo Dunns alleged cry, I dont want you in my city!
That prospect may have been realized Tuesday, when a grand jury refused to approve a felony charge against him, as The New York Times reported Wednesday......
While the Sidney Reid case is eye-popping due to the number of times (three) that D.C. grand jurors refused to approve a felony case against her, Dunns case could signal something at least as significant in response to the Trump administrations show of force.
After his arrest earlier this month, the administration sought to make an example of the man who, notably, was working for the Justice Department. According to the initial complaint and statement of facts filed against him, Dunn allegedly called federal agents fascists, said he didnt want them in my city and str[uck] an immigration agent in the chest with a sub-style sandwich.......
In his case and others, the DOJ would do well to bear in mind what Reids lawyers said in connection with her now-reduced prosecution. They said theyre anxious to present the misdemeanor case to a jury and to quickly clear Ms. Reids name, and that Pirro can try to concoct crimes to quiet the people, but in our criminal justice system, the citizens have the last word.
The last words havent been spoken yet in these cases. But the first words the citizens of D.C. are speaking should ring loudly in the administrations ears. They seem to echo Dunns alleged cry, I dont want you in my city!
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Deadline: Legal Blog--D.C. grand jurors send stark message to Pirro and Trump in sandwich case (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 27
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Deadline: Legal Blog-It matters why the grand jury in D.C. declined to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 28
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bucolic_frolic
(52,210 posts)1. The elites that have seized the government are on a power trip
They are quite vulnerable unless they can squelch everything. Do not forget that idea and look for opportunities.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,231 posts)2. They are heroes. These tyrants know who they are.
underpants
(192,635 posts)3. They went back? THREE TIMES? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

tulipsandroses
(7,864 posts)4. Whats that saying about indicting a ham sandwich??

LOL
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,182 posts)5. Deadline: Legal Blog-It matters why the grand jury in D.C. declined to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn
There are different ways of reading the stunning action by a Washington grand jury amid Trumps federal crackdown on the nations capital.
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https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/dc-sandwich-thrower-grand-jury-indictment-decline-matters-rcna227748
We know that a grand jury in Washington refused to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn. But we dont necessarily know why.
Its a stunning result with serious implications no matter what motivated the rejection. Yet, what those implications are, exactly, could depend on the rationale for refusing to approve a felony charge against the man who became a folk hero in D.C. amid the Trump administrations federal crackdown in the nations capital......
But something bigger may have been at play: jury nullification. Thats when jurors believe that prosecutors have proved the technical elements of the case but, nonetheless, the jury renders a moral objection by way of a not guilty verdict (or in the case of a grand jury, a no true bill).
To put the question one way: Did grand jurors think the government did a bad job, or a bad thing?.....
Importantly, we have more than Dunns case to go on in analyzing this phenomenon. Theres the even more shocking recent failure of D.C. prosecutors to get an indictment against Sidney Reid a whopping three times. She was initially charged under the same federal assault statute as Dunn. After striking out in the grand jury, prosecutors reduced her case to a misdemeanor, which doesnt require grand jury approval.
Lets assume for a moment that grand jurors in both the Dunn and Reid cases just thought there wasnt enough proof to charge them with felonies. The known facts of both cases certainly allow for that possibility. Through that lens, the message to prosecutors is that they need to more carefully evaluate the quality of cases they bring.
But if the message is that the people of D.C. are declining to approve charges despite the evidence presented to them, thats something that should worry prosecutors even more.
Its a stunning result with serious implications no matter what motivated the rejection. Yet, what those implications are, exactly, could depend on the rationale for refusing to approve a felony charge against the man who became a folk hero in D.C. amid the Trump administrations federal crackdown in the nations capital......
But something bigger may have been at play: jury nullification. Thats when jurors believe that prosecutors have proved the technical elements of the case but, nonetheless, the jury renders a moral objection by way of a not guilty verdict (or in the case of a grand jury, a no true bill).
To put the question one way: Did grand jurors think the government did a bad job, or a bad thing?.....
Importantly, we have more than Dunns case to go on in analyzing this phenomenon. Theres the even more shocking recent failure of D.C. prosecutors to get an indictment against Sidney Reid a whopping three times. She was initially charged under the same federal assault statute as Dunn. After striking out in the grand jury, prosecutors reduced her case to a misdemeanor, which doesnt require grand jury approval.
Lets assume for a moment that grand jurors in both the Dunn and Reid cases just thought there wasnt enough proof to charge them with felonies. The known facts of both cases certainly allow for that possibility. Through that lens, the message to prosecutors is that they need to more carefully evaluate the quality of cases they bring.
But if the message is that the people of D.C. are declining to approve charges despite the evidence presented to them, thats something that should worry prosecutors even more.
I am personally voting that both cases are jury nullification and Piro needs to worry if she takes these cases to trial.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,182 posts)6. DC is TIRED of the federal takeover, and they're letting everyone know!
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DC is TIRED of the federal takeover, and they're letting everyone know!
3 days ago a DC Grand Jury declined to indict a woman for assaulting an ICE agent (a scratch on his hand).
Today another grand jury declined to indict the guy who threw a sub at an ICE agent!
FREE DC!
3 days ago a DC Grand Jury declined to indict a woman for assaulting an ICE agent (a scratch on his hand).
Today another grand jury declined to indict the guy who threw a sub at an ICE agent!
FREE DC!
