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tavernier

(13,923 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:12 AM Tuesday

Newsom must run on enlarging the SCOTUS

since they have now ruled to allow Trump the vandalization of our states. I’m certain these rulings will continue in the new oligarchy to come until we are no longer a mere shadow of our former country and our constitution

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OLDMDDEM

(2,703 posts)
1. There are thirteen appellate courts, so there should be 13 supreme court justices. Add four more once
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:16 AM
Tuesday

Dems have the senate and the presidency.

17. I posted similar last year
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:20 PM
Tuesday

My proposal was to first expand to 15 appellate courts. The population of the country has grown enough that the current courts are overloaded. This would spread that workload around. That would require redrawing the circuit court territorial maps. Another benefit beyond dividing up the work load would be breaking up the highly biased 5th circuit and splitting up those conservative judges to dilute their influence. We can't take away their lifetime appointment, but we can split up their majority and tame them a bit. Of course, changing the circuit court maps would also require redrawing the district court territories within those circuits. Once we have 15 fairly drawn circuit maps, appoint a justice to oversea each of them. Currently, with 12 circuit courts and the Federal Appeals Court and 9 justices, some justice oversee 2 courts and some oversee 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals

Fiendish Thingy

(20,691 posts)
2. Newsom? It should be part of the DNC platform for all candidates
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:31 AM
Tuesday

Any Dem senate primary candidate who doesn’t support court expansion, and killing the filibuster to pass it, will not get my financial support.

While making court expansion a central focus may be risky strategically, it nevertheless must be a component of all future campaigns. Make it a bullet point in a long list of progressive policy positions, then focus on the issues that voters care about most.

tavernier

(13,923 posts)
8. I think Biden should have
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:03 PM
Tuesday

But I bet he honestly didn’t think Johnny Roberts and his pals were so compromised and tainted.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,691 posts)
11. Unfortunately, Biden didn't have the votes in the senate even if he wanted to expand the court
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:20 PM
Tuesday

Manchin, Sinema and Fetterman would all have been no votes.

None of them will be in the senate in 2029.

hardluck

(742 posts)
3. What's to run on?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:41 AM
Tuesday

I’m sure there are plenty of Republicans in the House and Senate who would agree to such a proposal right now. Bipartisanship at its finest.

ForgedCrank

(2,870 posts)
4. No.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:45 AM
Tuesday

This is bad practice. We don't govern via a court using unelected career lawyers. We govern with solid policy that is attractive to enough people to get them passed into law. Yes, it is the that hard way, but that's the proper way.

Johnny2X2X

(23,367 posts)
5. I wouldn't run on that
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:46 AM
Tuesday

I think expanding the SCOTUS is really needed, but I don't think it would be popular to run on. So do what Republicans do, run on total fantasy BS the people will like, and then do what you want once you win.

essaynnc

(938 posts)
7. I like the Mexican Supreme Court.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:00 PM
Tuesday

I don't think that just increasing the number will really solve the problems long term. There was a DU post about the Mexican Supreme Court the other day.

They are elected directly by the people.
They serve a limited term, I guess one rolls off and is replaced each year.
This is what I remember, I'm sure there's more, but this is a start.

I will add:
You serve ONCE.
There have to be minimum requirements for the position.
The same ethics as the entire rest of the judiciary! NO MOTORHOMES! Who would make that decision and enforce any wrongdoing?
Increase the number to match the number of districts (13??)
Recall or impeachment rules need to be changed to make it NON-POLITICAL.
How do we, the people say...."B.S., that ruling is incorrect!" ???

What have I missed?

Shrek

(4,294 posts)
10. The Republicans will say "what a great idea" and pass it immediately
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:10 PM
Tuesday

Not the right time to bring it up.

Fullduplexxx

(8,562 posts)
12. And can do it with the slogan ' we have to expand Supreme Court in order to save it ' (from itself)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:35 PM
Tuesday

Mr.WeRP

(919 posts)
13. He should run on INVESTIGATING members for bribery
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:37 PM
Tuesday

In the traditional sense, not according to the redefinition by same justices who've been engaging in it. ARREST the fucks Thomas and Alito and reopen the rape investigation of Beer Boy.

comradebillyboy

(10,846 posts)
14. Maybe Newsom should run on popular issues instead.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:41 PM
Tuesday

Packing the court is a losing electoral issue. If FDR couldn't do it I doubt if anybody else can.

markodochartaigh

(3,895 posts)
16. "Packing
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:19 PM
Tuesday

the court is a losing electoral issue. If FDR couldn't do it I doubt if anybody else can."

Maybe it is a losing electoral issue, at least for Democratic politicians. However the court has already been packed. McConnell and the Republicans did it by refusing to give a hearing to Obama's nominee and then by fast tracking Trump's. And McConnell even admitted that the Republicans would refuse to give a hearing to future Democratic nominees.

The supremacist court has absolutely already been packed. And the Republicans have paid practically no price for it. For Republicans it is a winning electoral issue.

TheProle

(3,642 posts)
19. Has he changed his mind since 2022?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:36 PM
Tuesday
Newsom pours water on Supreme Court expansion but favors filibuster reform

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), a leading party figure and potential future candidate for president, on Thursday dismissed calls to expand the Supreme Court, which are gaining traction with other Democratic officeholders.

“No, because my kids are going to live with a Supreme Court that’s larger than Congress,” he said, predicting that if Democrats expand the high court from nine to 13 justices to balance out conservatives, Republicans will retaliate with a similar tactic when they return to power.

Three Democratic senators have sponsored a bill to expand the size of the Supreme Court, and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) hasn’t ruled out considering it on the floor at some point in the future, though right now Democrats couldn’t get it past a Republican filibuster.

But Newsom, who visited Capitol Hill on Thursday, said he is open to reforming the Senate’s filibuster rule, which has allowed Republicans to bring President Biden’s agenda to a grinding halt.


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3559555-newsom-pours-water-on-supreme-court-expansion-but-favors-filibuster-reform/
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