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prodigitalson

(3,169 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:15 AM Monday

1990s DARE. Gateway Drug to Modern Fascism?

JH Hannah (prodigitason)
Oct. 3rd 2025
Deep East Texas

When I was a high school senior in 1986, D.A.R.E. told me marijuana was a “gateway drug.” Supposedly the high stops being “enough,” and from there you’ll slide toward cocaine, heroin, or worse.

Even then, the logic felt thin. If marijuana ever led to something harder, the culprit wasn’t cannabis itself but prohibition. You went to your guy for weed; if he was out, he might offer pills or powder instead. That’s the black market, not a escalating addiction dynamic. You wanted cannabis, but prohibition got you something else.

D.A.R.E. wasn’t built around harm reduction. It was built to tell a morality tale. And it’s a tale that, even at this late date, still lives in the hearts of a few dead-enders — like Texas’s lieutenant governor, clinging to reefer-madness rhetoric while most of the country has moved on.

The Gateways We Actually Walk Through

Most people’s first altered state isn’t cannabis at all. It’s spinning around in the yard as a toddler until you collapse dizzy. Later, it’s sneaking cigarettes or drinking cheap beer in high school. By any honest definition, alcohol is the real gateway drug: it’s usually tried first, it’s socially celebrated, and it carries the heaviest toll.

Marijuana use, on the other hand, usually has a natural stop. You smoke until you’re high and then you quit. As the comedian Gallagher once joked: “If you’re high and you keep smoking pot, you don’t get more high—you just get less weed.” Alcohol and plenty of other drugs don’t work that way. Keep going and you’re not just wasting your stash—you’re courting a trip to the emergency room, alcohol very much included.

D.A.R.E. warned us about escalating highs: you try something, the next time isn’t as good, so you chase more and more until it controls you. That isn’t how cannabis works for most people. That is precisely how capitalism works for nearly everyone.

The thrill of your first car, your first smartphone, your first pair of expensive shoes, it’s electric. But the second never feels the same. So you buy the next version, then the upgrade, then the add-on. You tell yourself stories, sometimes your loved ones, about why you need it. You sacrifice time, energy, even health for the next fix. The system is built to keep you craving.

The irony is that D.A.R.E. encouraged kids to turn on their families. Suspect your parents? Call the cops. A free society doesn’t ask children to spy on loved ones—it conditions them. And while kids were made junior deputies, police departments were cashing in on civil asset forfeiture, keeping property they seized in drug cases. D.A.R.E. was the PR arm of a war that looked more like a business, a racket. I wonder how many moody loner MAGAs were active on 1990s DARE programs.
They were a perfect gateway drum to 21st Century fascism.

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rampartd

(2,595 posts)
1. prior to the reagan phase of the drug war
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:53 AM
Monday

turning in your parents or neighbors was something that only commies or nazis did.

The irony is that D.A.R.E. encouraged kids to turn on their families. Suspect your parents? Call the cops. A free society doesn’t ask children to spy on loved ones—it conditions them. And while kids were made junior deputies, police departments were cashing in on civil asset forfeiture, keeping property they seized in drug cases. D.A.R.E. was the PR arm of a war that looked more like a business, a rack

MagickMuffin

(17,944 posts)
2. Our 4th Amendment suffered dearly because of it
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:02 AM
Monday


No one cared about the 4th Amendment.

Plus the enforcers could take away your property and anything else they wanted. They also were awarded military grade weapons.

And Dan Patrick is an incredibly stupid man!





prodigitalson

(3,169 posts)
4. Before late stage apathetic collapsing liberal democracy gave him the most powerful constitutional office in Texas
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:38 PM
Saturday

-yep, it's actually the Lt. Governor as President of the Senate vs. a super weak governor-

Dan Patrick was best known as a shock jock who broadcast his vasectomy live on the radio...mercifully not TV and before the internet really took off.

meadowlander

(5,005 posts)
6. Agree and also 1980s self-help/motivational bullshit about how you create the reality you live in
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:55 PM
Saturday

through the power of thought.

You see this all the time with the Trumpers making up their own "alternative facts" to justify doing what they wanted to do anyway or dismissing anything that doesn't align with their world view and interests. And Trump himself is the embodiment of manifesting his personal goals despite all the facts, reality and potentially negative consequences.

People like Tony Robbins, etc. were really big with CEOs or aspiring CEOs in the 80s and 90s and I feel like they brainwashed a certain segment of right-leaning conservatives who are educated and generally smart enough to know better into switching off their critical thinking skills and accepting someone like Trump who presents a "vision" they can get on board with even if he is accomplishing it in an amoral way. They can choose just not to acknowledge the reality of what they're supporting and focus on the positives instead.

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