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In It to Win It

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Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:48 AM Friday

"We Took the Freedom of Speech Away" Is Somehow a Direct Quote From Donald Trump - Balls and Strikes

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If saying the quiet part out loud were an Olympic sport, President Donald Trump’s remarks at the White House yesterday would win a gold medal. “We took the freedom of speech away,” said Trump on Wednesday.

The president was speaking to an audience of right-wing influencers at an anti-antifascism roundtable, flanked by Attorney General Pam Bondi and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. And he claimed that burning the American flag—an act the Supreme Court has repeatedly held is legally protected by the First Amendment—incites violence, and is thus free game for state suppression. “That’s been through the courts, and the courts said you have freedom of speech, but what has happened is when they burn a flag, it agitates and irritates crowds,” said Trump.

Again, it’s not just the courts that say you have that freedom—it’s the Constitution. But that hasn’t always stopped the government from trying to “take it away,” and as Trump pointed out, courts have sometimes stepped in to enforce free speech rights when they are infringed. Texas v. Johnson, a Supreme Court decision that struck down a law criminalizing flag burning, was one such time.

Gregory Lee Johnson was a young communist activist who was part of the “Republican War Chest Tour,” a 1984 protest held in Dallas during the Republican National Convention. Outside Dallas City Hall, Johnson poured kerosene on an American flag and set it on fire, while protesters chanted, “America, the red, white, and blue, we spit on you.”

Hey, generally speaking, is it good or bad when presidents talk about taking away constitutional rights they don't like

Balls & Strikes (@ballsandstrikes.org) 2025-10-10T14:06:37.188Z
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Give that guy a prize!! Blues Heron Friday #1
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Blues Heron

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1. Give that guy a prize!!
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:03 AM
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What a sick disgrace this piece of shit is. When will this Nobel prize LOSING freak go away?

LetMyPeopleVote

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2. Maddowblog-'We took the freedom of speech away': On First Amendment, Trump says quiet part out loud
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:27 AM
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A week after the White House boasted that Trump “is a strong supporter of free speech,” the president’s legal gibberish pointed in the opposite direction.

Last week, the White House boasted that Trump “is a strong supporter of free speech.”

This week, the Republican declared, "We took the freedom of speech away." www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-09T13:05:29.323Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/-took-freedom-speech-away-first-amendment-trump-says-quiet-part-loud-rcna236600

The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that the First Amendment protects those who burn the American flag in protest. Nevertheless, seven weeks ago, Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at prosecuting those who “desecrate” the American flag......

But again, presidents can’t make up laws and criminal sentences based on his whims. As Trump probably ought to know, such edicts might be common in authoritarian nations, but this isn’t how the United States works.

The online missive generated very little coverage, but the president apparently isn’t letting it go. USA Today reported:

We took the freedom of speech away, because that’s been through the courts, and the courts said you have freedom of speech but what has happened is when they burn the flag it agitates and irritates crowds,’ Trump said during a roundtable discussion on antifa.


......I won’t pretend to know what, if anything, will come of this. Maybe Trump peddled his legal gibberish to scratch an ideological itch. Maybe his lawyers will quietly tell him behind the scenes that they can’t actually bring any criminal cases along these lines. Maybe the Trump-directed Justice Department will start issuing indictments as part of an effort to test the Supreme Court precedent. Time will tell.

But in the meantime, one week after the White House boasted that Trump “is a strong supporter of free speech,” the president declared — out loud, on the record and in public — that he and his team “took the freedom of speech away,” referring to developments that did not and cannot happen.

Against a backdrop of an aggressive White House campaign against the First Amendment, Trump’s unscripted candor offered a classic example of a politician saying the quiet part loud.
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