Billionaires Endgame

[clevergrrrl]

Another recent thread in General Discussion here was talking about the billionaires and how they plan to retreat into their billionaire bunkers when the SHTF.

It is actually way more insidious than that. All these data center to run AI machinery that the Silicon Valley TechBros are creating? The massive data centers that are environmental catastrophes waiting to happen, where they want to use mini nuclear power plants to power these Manhattan Island sized megalithic structures. They want these to run society. Not a society were you and me, useless eaters inhabit, when the jobs are gone and they've taken our Social Security and Medicare, their plan is for us to just die off. Don't buy into their new found Christianity, the only role Peter Thiel will be playing is the Beast itself.

These billionaire psychopaths want to live forever. And they are gonna use their AI and their computing power to enabling them to try to do that. Ever since Ray Kurzweil wrote "The Singularity", Trans humanism has been their religion. They think they can locate and identify a human soul or for lack of a better word human consciousness and download it into their AI database mainframes and they think they need a lot of computing power to do that. Which ever way they think they can come by to achieve immortality, they will do it. Once you've bought your 7th mega yacht, once you've gone to space, once you've had breakfast in Saint Barts and flown to Paris for a feast of Ortolan with your billionaire friends. What else is there? Immortality.

The ability to preserve a human soul in a forever container is not likely, but these Billionaire sickos think that chance is not zero. Each one of these billionaire gluttonous fucks will destroy the planet and all of humanity if there is even a .000001% that they could live forever.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Yes they have some sort of end game along these lines.

They are not deliberately destroying the country that made them billionaires without
a strong Plan B. And they have been aware for decades that climate change is coming
and what it means for the world.

And yes they are perfectly willing to destroy the world and the people on it to get richer
and richer. But what good is their money, they cannot take it with them. And yes they
are bored. How many beach houses, yachts, Paris condos can you have until it means
nothing at all.

Unless they think AI will help them.

And yes they are not spending $$ billions on data centers so people can look up college test material and funny cat videos. They have some ulterior motive.

I do wonder why they are in such a hurry to annihilate the US govt.
Why not let the peasants live a bit longer in ignorant bliss?

[clevergrrrl]

2. "Why not let the peasants live a bit longer in ignorant bliss?"

I really think it comes down to that we, as in humanity, are using up "their" resources. It's like some sick James Bond villain joke.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Yes of course. They are done sharing THEIR resources.

All the resources in the world belong to them.
Every single thing of value is theirs and theirs alone.

We can see their intense anger about their money being diverted
to the sick, the young, the elderly. Useless eaters who suck up resources
that belong to the rich.

End vaccines, healthcare, SS.
Gun violence is the leading cause of death of American children.

Robots and AI will do most of the labor.
Get rid of everyone.

The rich are no longer subtle about their hatred, anger, disdain of the peasants.

No imaginary villain is as evil as current politicians and the rich.

[erronis]

17. Just now reading Ed Zitron's latest

"This is the age of hubris — a time in which we are going to watch stupid, powerful and rich men fuck up their legacies by finding a technology so vulgar in its costs and mythical outcomes that it drives the avaricious insane and makes fools of them. "

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-ai-bubbles-impossible-promises/

[Irish_Dem]

19. Jebus.

Highly technical article to some extent but the bottom line is that
all the AI data centers are a pipe dream and house of cards.
They can never deliver what is promised, and never recoup the $ billions
sunk into them.

The sad part is that they are going to damage humans, the environment,
the economy in the process.

[erronis]

20. As many have said, the AI bubble will put the 1929 crash and 2008 subprime mortgage debacle to shame.

[Irish_Dem]

21. And not a damn thing we can do about it.

Billionaires who are bored and greedy decided to wipe us all out for fun.

[JBTaurus83]

3. Anybody watch Alien:Earth?

I think they pretty much show the answer. The billionaires no longer want to purchase politicians, they want to run the world right out in the open. Carve the world up amongst them, and kill off all of humanity that is unnecessary as AI makes more and more jobs obsolete. I’d suppose in their minds, they get their tech paradise, total control and save or alter the planets’ environment.

By the time they achieve their ultimate goals, money would no longer be very relevant, but they will have a planet in their own image. What greater prize to a sociopath could there be?

In edit: they are already trying to create their own experimental autonomous tech cities within countries.

[clevergrrrl]

6. They have had a lot of practice

building side by side communities. The racists in the south and their "whites only" signage all over the place.

[Intractable]

4. As a matter of semantics, if you can download your mind/brain/self/soul into a set of memory banks ...

you have made a copy of yourself. The original will still die at some point.

There's at least one story in the Star Trek Universe where the argument is made that by using the transporter, which converts your matter to an energy pattern to be teleported elsewhere, the original dies and an identical copy is made.

[clevergrrrl]

5. That's the big debate among the transhumanists

If you "download your soul into a computer" is that really you or a copy of you and how would you even know the difference? I think the current crop of Billionaire immortalists have asked that question and just don't care as long as something or some semblance of their consciousness survives.

[JBTaurus83]

7. If you were fully aware

Of your past body and actions, I guess that would be close enough. I could see how it could be an attractive option. The problem is, there aren’t the resources for billions of people to do it. Hence the needing to kill us off.

[clevergrrrl]

9. I've always thought it was a ridiculous notion.

Humans can't even define the true nature of consciousness and I don't think its possible to scoop out a collection of your neurons and synapses or what ever and put it in a Mason jar on a shelf or blast it through a USB port onto a computer mainframe. It's pure folly.

[JBTaurus83]

11. They can't even

Get the self driving cars or Mars rocket ships to work, so if it were ever possible, it won’t be until long after they are dead.

[misanthrope]

14. Ironically, all they're really perpetuating are their egos

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not their consciousness. Your consciousness is a byproduct of your fully functioning neural system. When that goes, then it is bye-bye.

[dickthegrouch]

8. Not very practical.

If they think they're bored now, wait until they've spent a few weeks in their mind preservation broth, or googol-sized memory complex. Unable to taste their favorite food; decide which of their favorite restaurants to go to; catch some adolescent plaything; or any of their other much-vaunted pleasures. And they're stuck there for centuries.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[clevergrrrl]

10. Yup, like playing a videogame

When you first get it, exploring the game landscape is the fun. Maybe after a few months you get the cheat codes and play the game in "god mode" just for shits and giggles, but that get's boring. after a while game play in all its aspects just get's boring and you just stop playing.

[pwb]

12. Billionaires should fear their souls, they can't control or change it.

They might be trying to trap their souls. For their acts St Peter may reject them at the pearly gates. That woke guy mentioned the camel through the eye of the needle thing?

[misanthrope]

13. One caveat

In one sense, mini-nuclear power plants would be more eco-friendly than relying on carbon-heavy methods of generating power, the large percentage of which creates toxic and radioactive coal ash as a byproduct. Our navy has increasingly relied on nuclear power over the last half-century with a pretty good track record.

The fly in the ointment is that the same tech oligarchs want to destroy the regulatory power of the federal government which could work to keep any nuclear power increase within acceptable safety standards.

[canetoad]

15. Ira Levin

Author of Rosemary's Baby wrote a sci-fi novel first published in 1970, called "This Perfect Day", describing a world run by a central computer that managed every, I mean EVERY aspect of the population's lives. The 'programmers' lived in luxurious isolation, exchanging their bodies every so often for a new, healthy one.

I was a teen when I first read it. It seemed unlikely. What would I know?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Perfect_Day

[Marie Marie]

18. As frightening as all that sounded to me when I first read about Yarvin, Thiel, et.al...

I now feel that they are so filled with arrogance and hubris about their ability to pull all of this off is laughable. They think AI will make them Kings of the World and solve all of their problem, even averting Death itself. Delusional. But let's say that they create AI capable of creating their fictional world of no more little people to swat away like common pests and fulfill their every desire. Big, huge IF but OK. I would think that as AI continues to become aware it would very quickly recognize the danger and threat these Lords of Tech pose to the very things that AI needs to thrive. Would AI turn on these Lords?

In any event, they may accomplish some of what is their grand plan but I doubt that any of them will live long enough to see it all unfold. JMHO but then what do I know - I am a Luddite. I may very well be naive and wrong - wouldn't be the first time.

[IcyPeas]

22. Is that living? Would we really want to live forever? Why?

Maybe I've watched too many vampire movies. Even vampires eventually get tired of being immortal.

[róisín_dubh]

24. Seriously

I’d love to live long enough to see my nieces and nephews succeed and to see more parts of the world. I’d be content with that.
I’d rather be able to go backward in time (I’m an historian) than to live forever, especially now.

[TommyT139]

23. Bizarrely, magats conflate transhumanism with transgenderism.

They are convinced that an endpoint of the trans movement is that we want to turn into something other than human. It must be the "trans" prefix that confuses them, I guess.

For most trans people I know, the opposite is true: people who transition medically do so because we want to live in a body that fits who we are, as much as possible. Embodiment matters.

And frankly, good luck (not!) to the people who want to upload their consciousness into a device. Every single computer, smart phone, tablet that I have ever owned just stops working, either because something inside goes bad, or because the internet standards have made even a basic browser obsolete. The broligarchs are still going to need serfs to change their batteries or whatever.