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Can we make this song go viral? "Call Me Antifa" (Original Post) Hekate Saturday OP
Call Me Antifa! Yes.. Love the Cha Saturday #1
Cha, it's AI slop from someone using AI to generate about 1 video a day for the last several months. highplainsdem Saturday #14
I AM ANTIFA markie Saturday #2
Thanks for posting this! Great song! raccoon Saturday #3
a tenner says this (and probably all of the hundreds of other 'songs' on that channel) is AI slop, so I'm going to pass Celerity Saturday #4
What is not to love stillspkg Saturday #5
sorry, but I detest AI faux music Celerity Saturday #6
This was so Luddite... Layzeebeaver Saturday #7
Normalcy bias. It's a thing. Celerity Saturday #9
I'm not at all afraid of new technology, but generative AI exists only because of AI companies' theft of highplainsdem Saturday #13
Problem is, none of those things you listed are creative art Tommy Carcetti Saturday #25
I don't think computers can really be creative. Mossfern Saturday #30
If you must attack , Oysters Saturday #8
No, as my issue is with the potential (likely IMHO) generation of the song Celerity Saturday #10
I agree that someone creating this much AI slop quickly may very well have other monetized YouTube highplainsdem Saturday #16
NO. That's AI slop, from someone who created that channel only 7 months ago and has used AI for 236 highplainsdem Saturday #11
K & R malaise Saturday #12
No. It's AI slop. See my replies above. highplainsdem Saturday #15
Honest question: how can we tell it's AI? mainer Saturday #17
Yes, it matters whether it's AI. You should care where messages came from. And as Celerity pointed highplainsdem Saturday #18
But assuming we DON'T know about its Youtube channel mainer Saturday #19
Look to see when something was created. Sadly, so much AI slop has flooded the internet in the highplainsdem Saturday #21
And btw, all you have to do to find out about the channel is to click on the link on the video to watch on YouTube highplainsdem Saturday #22
the main clue on this one is the AI slop graphic, the lack of credit to any artists, and the rote rhymes and phrasing. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #24
This. Too-perfect production values, the bland lyrics and no artist named ms liberty Saturday #29
I would not use a name being actively vilified. usonian Saturday #20
AI slop, including the graphic. No thanks. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #23
Well, I guess its all AI SLOP Layzeebeaver Saturday #26
This message was self-deleted by its author BoRaGard Saturday #27
I don't see any value to using the word "antifa" thebigidea Saturday #28
Good morning & ouch. Comes of my desire for catchy protest music in the first place. ... Hekate Saturday #31
Thought of those protests songs from back in the day as well, Hekete. peggysue2 Saturday #32

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
14. Cha, it's AI slop from someone using AI to generate about 1 video a day for the last several months.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:47 AM
Saturday

It's possible they didn't write a single line of lyrics, and that they even have the AI telling them.what song to do next and don't really care about anything the lyrics say.

markie

(23,678 posts)
2. I AM ANTIFA
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:36 AM
Saturday

I am:
pro-America
pro-free speech
pro-human rights
pro-law and order
pro-health care for all
pro-strong communities
pro-immigrant rights
pro-education
.....
.....
.....
.....

Celerity

(52,471 posts)
4. a tenner says this (and probably all of the hundreds of other 'songs' on that channel) is AI slop, so I'm going to pass
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:23 AM
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sorry

I would not at all be shocked if this rando anon human poster/channel owner has another seperate channel of AI slop tunes big-upping MAGAts.

2 sides, same AI-fuelled grift, if so.

stillspkg

(132 posts)
5. What is not to love
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:46 AM
Saturday

What is not to love about this song. It's awesome no matter how it originated.

Layzeebeaver

(2,093 posts)
7. This was so Luddite...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:05 AM
Saturday

I'm going to write some stuff here, and it's not about you.

Rather, it's about people who share a common fear and loathing of new technology.

Let's list a few things...

Electric screwdrivers
LED lighting
Internal combustion engines
Steam
X-Rays
Quantum Physics
Jet Engines
Anti-biotics
Computers
Fire
Bronze
Search Engines
Radio
Space Travel

Shall we go on?

At what point do we say it's "Slop"?

AI is a tool.

sure, we can use an electric screw driver to drill into someones skull and kill them. should we? No. Meanwhile, we can use the same tool to build houses for the homeless.

WE need to wake up - AND LEARN TO USE THESE NEW TOOLS TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY!

Celerity

(52,471 posts)
9. Normalcy bias. It's a thing.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:28 AM
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I have no intrinsic fear of new technology simply because it is 'new'.

I simply choose to not engage in overly expansive, normalcy bias-driven threat minimisation at this point.

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
13. I'm not at all afraid of new technology, but generative AI exists only because of AI companies' theft of
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:40 AM
Saturday

all the intellectual property they could grab for their own profit.

They're fundamentally unethical tools, and people who are aware of that theft and use the AI tools anyway are acting.unethically.

Generative AI also dumbs down users, increases wealth inequality, and harms the environment.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,282 posts)
25. Problem is, none of those things you listed are creative art
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:28 AM
Saturday

The fun thing about creativity is the time and effort that someone puts into it. The personal stamp that the artist leaves in the work.

Having a computer do most of the work saps the entire process of what gives it soul and the human element.

Mossfern

(4,431 posts)
30. I don't think computers can really be creative.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:30 AM
Saturday

That thought has me wanting to go into my deep dive mode because I'm curious how emotional pain relates to creativity.
I honestly doubt that any grown human has never experienced emotional pain.

I don't feel the same way about joy, but that can just be my depression talking ...

Celerity

(52,471 posts)
10. No, as my issue is with the potential (likely IMHO) generation of the song
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:32 AM
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I take no issue with message itself.

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
16. I agree that someone creating this much AI slop quickly may very well have other monetized YouTube
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:54 AM
Saturday

channels about other subjects and opinions.

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
11. NO. That's AI slop, from someone who created that channel only 7 months ago and has used AI for 236
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:34 AM
Saturday

videos in that time.

Which means whoever the hell they are is just having AI write the lyrics and probably offer them ideas on what song to do next.

It's possible that whoever has that AI channel didn't write a single word of any of the songs. For all you know, they really don't care very much about what the songs are about - they've just picked a subject that gets views.

They certainly don't care about all the writers, musicians and artists whose work was stolen to train the AI they're getting those words, vocals, music and art from.

They don't care about the websites whose content is stolen nonstop by AI companies' bots scraping the internet and increasing costs for website owners like EarkG.

Don't reward those AI users, those conscience-free and ethics-free fake creatives, with attention.

mainer

(12,444 posts)
17. Honest question: how can we tell it's AI?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:13 AM
Saturday

I think the song is catchy, but now that someone's pointed out it's AI generated, I'm trying to look for clues that reveal this. I can't tell it's not written by a human. How are we supposed to know?

And a separate question: if it inspires a political movement for good, does it matter?

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
18. Yes, it matters whether it's AI. You should care where messages came from. And as Celerity pointed
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:37 AM
Saturday

out above, it's quite possible someone generating AI slop like this could also have a different channel for MAGAts. It takes almost zero effort to have AI generate this soulless, meaningless slop. Just ask an AI music generator for a song in a particular subject in a particular style, and with all the world's copyrighted music having been stolen to train the AI, it'll immediately generate something based on all that theft. (If the AI companies had trained AI only on what they had a legal right to use, they wouldn't be boasting about how well their tools work.)

Images and videos can be generated just as quickly.

So one of the best ways to spot AI slop is how frequently these videos are posted. That site's averaging about one a day. Different styles of music, and different voices on the songs. Different types of artwork.

You're not going to have real songwriters, musicians and singers creating, recording and producing real music at that rate for months - 236 videos in less than 7 months - with real artists doing the artwork.

And btw, the TOS for the slop-producing AI tools sometimes explain that other users might be given the same content.

That YouTube channel tells people to feel free to use the videos. Since they're AI generated, there is no copyright on them. That YouTube account didn't really create them.

mainer

(12,444 posts)
19. But assuming we DON'T know about its Youtube channel
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:43 AM
Saturday

How can we tell, just from the song itself?

I'm struggling these days to distinguish AI from human-created.
AI text is getting better and better. My novelist friends tell me they're really disturbed how well AI mimics their own writing. And now there's music/lyrics that are able to fool 99% of us.

How do we tell????

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
21. Look to see when something was created. Sadly, so much AI slop has flooded the internet in the
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:57 AM
Saturday

last few years that you often can't trust what's been created since late 2022.

Look to see if the video creator or artist or writer has any track record of creating anything worthwhile going back more than a few years. Maybe their YouTube channel is new but they have their own work elsewhere online.

I've advised DUers to focus on the YouTube channels from artists, journalists and pundits we're already familiar with and know we can trust. There's way more content than we can follow from them, without needing AI slop from newcomers. There's way too much AI slop getting posted on DU these days. And since people have limited time, the time wasted on AI slop takes time away from people providing valuable information and art.

highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
22. And btw, all you have to do to find out about the channel is to click on the link on the video to watch on YouTube
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:08 AM
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and look at the channel. See when it was created. If it's recent with a lot of videos with different styles, voices, etc., good chance it's AI. Even if the channel's years older than 2022, click on the link for the oldest videos to see if, after AI became available, there was a sudden change in the type of videos being posted, and how often they were being posted, because that often happens when someone starts using AI. You might see, once they start posting videos more often, changes in subject till they find the right bait for views. I remember one such channel that tried videos about dragons and time travel before discovering that political themes worked and suddenly doing a lot of those.

Many of these YouTube channels are monetized and you can't always tell. Some also ask for donations through various websites.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,797 posts)
24. the main clue on this one is the AI slop graphic, the lack of credit to any artists, and the rote rhymes and phrasing.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:28 AM
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Last edited Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)

ETA: If it sounds like contemporary Christian music -- and this song does, very much -- in a context that doesn't make sense, it's AI.

And a separate question: if it inspires a political movement for good, does it matter?
If you can measure the inspiration and "good" that it does, I'd love to see it.

ms liberty

(10,693 posts)
29. This. Too-perfect production values, the bland lyrics and no artist named
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:19 AM
Saturday

Anyone with that perfect a voice is going to put their name to it.

usonian

(21,342 posts)
20. I would not use a name being actively vilified.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:56 AM
Saturday

American might be better.

Writing is difficult. I have some ideas but I am not a composer nor lyricist, and have not heard much or anything from those who are.

I tried some little songs here that bombed.

This moment is comparable to the 60's.

And ..... 🎹

Layzeebeaver

(2,093 posts)
26. Well, I guess its all AI SLOP
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:37 AM
Saturday

Done deal.

Let's just try and ignore it - see what happens.

EDIT: Just kidding!

Response to Hekate (Original post)

thebigidea

(13,536 posts)
28. I don't see any value to using the word "antifa"
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:05 AM
Saturday

It's foreign, it sounds stupid, we have no history of using it in this country and it has to be explained to the average voter. When you're explaining you're losing.

The Allies certainly didn't fight the Nazis under the banner of Antifa and it's disingenuous to pretend WWII vets are Antifa. They aren't. Churchill had no fucking problem funding Franco to keep him out of the war, so fascism was fine with him if it served his interests.

all that and AI slop on top? Fucking gross. I'm a Democrat and a musician and I say FUCK THAT.

Hekate

(99,774 posts)
31. Good morning & ouch. Comes of my desire for catchy protest music in the first place. ...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:20 PM
Saturday

Some of you in this thread were alive when we actually had music that meant something in that regard, and it was a powerful unifying force with easily-memorized and easily-changed lyrics. Psychology.

I went to several street corner rallies this time around, and the energy was superb but the music was a deejay with deafening volume and lyrics I couldn’t make out if you paid me. (Had to give up on rallies when my knee gave out; now I’m just waiting for surgery, thanks for asking)

So my one in the morning inspiration turned out to be provable AI Slop. Carry on.

peggysue2

(12,211 posts)
32. Thought of those protests songs from back in the day as well, Hekete.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:33 PM
Saturday

Boomers get an earful on a lot of issues but even my own kids will grudgingly admit we had great music. We need another round of that creativity now, music and lyrics that bore right into you.

As for this one? I actually liked it, even though it's an AI product.

Hey, if it inspires a flesh and blood songwriter, it may go from slop to muse (as in I can do it better).

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