How do these ICE people get away with wearing masks?

[raccoon]

It used to be the case--I haven't checked if it still is--that it was illegal to wear a mask in some of the former Confederate states. On account of the KKK.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Who will stop them from breaking the law?

[LymphocyteLover]

11. that's it right there. No local cops seem willing to challenge the, that is for sure.

[Irish_Dem]

13. State law enforcement refusing to protect their citizens from the Gestapo.

[LymphocyteLover]

14. as they say, ACAB

[Irish_Dem]

16. Many bastards right now.

Law firms, cops, universities, congress, supreme court.
Billionaires, media, etc etc.

All rolled over and kiss Trump's ass every day.

[LymphocyteLover]

19. complicit bastards

[Celerity]

2. cuzTrumpy & his fashies don't give a toss about the rule of law, & there's no one to make them do so on a systemic basis

[ancianita]

4. True, they don't. But there is no existing federal law banning federal agents from wearing masks, anyway,

and there is no federal policy explicitly governing their use during arrests. Some states, like California, have passed laws that ban their use, but the federal government has stated it will challenge these state laws. As we've read before, these agents have said they wear masks for safety reasons, such as to prevent doxxing.

[OldBaldy1701E]

5. Yes, as well as making sure that no one knows who they are.

The only 'safety' that they are concerned with is the safety of being anonymous and therefore unaccountable.

Because they know they are on the wrong side of history in this matter and they know that karma is tough to beat. We may not see it, but it will happen to them all.

[LymphocyteLover]

10. the doxxing reason is bullshit, every other public employee can be doxxed. They have all the power on their side.

Why are they so ashamed of what they are doing that they don't want to be identified?

[ancianita]

17. Indeed.

Besides shame they've probably got other reasons for not wanting to be doxxed. They might be pardoned criminals, like J 6'ers or vets or just average mercenary goons for hire.

[LymphocyteLover]

18. Good point... also wouldn't it be incredible if some of them were illegal immigrants themselves!

[ancianita]

20. Heh heh... I wouldn't be surprised. Think of what Bernie sees, everyone in and outside this administration is disposable

even trump himself. Who and what's behind this takeover of America isn't what we're seeing in the news, imo.

[Walleye]

3. Demonstrators should taunt and make chicken noises everywhere they go

Why is it we have to be pushed around by cowards like any other fascist country. Is this really really the United States of America?

[OldBaldy1701E]

6. The programming worked.

Far better than anyone wants to admit, I feel.

[LymphocyteLover]

9. which programming?

[OldBaldy1701E]

21. Obey. Work. Consume.

'Rest is for the weak.'
'If you want to succeed, you must give everything. And then, give even more.'
'Time off is time out.'

That programming.

Being shamed and forced to work until you die without a thought as to doing anything else.

(This is being used as a metaphor, but you get the idea. I do not believe that aliens have taken over the planet. The unfettered uber-rich have done a pretty good job of it on their own. And, the irony is that their message is the same as those aliens in the movie.)

Being told that the uberwealthy in our society are the best that humanity has to offer because they are the richest and therefore we should never question what they do, and that their ideas are the only ones that should be considered because they are the only ones that make (fiscal) sense. Even if you may not especially want to emulate a particular wealthy person, you are still trying to be as rich as they are, and believe that getting there will make you someone to be loved and admired as well, because they told you that you could. They have rigged the system so that you cannot, but they still want you to believe that you can. 'American Dream' and all that.

Being taught that the economy is more important than the people. If one does not rush out and either become wealthy or work oneself to death making someone else wealthy, then one does not exist. There is so little upward mobility anymore that now, anyone who is not rolling in it is pretty much going to be joining myself in the bread line.

Oh wait... there are no bread lines. Any help for anyone who is not able to work three jobs is nonexistent. And, thanks to this same propaganda, we are deciding more and more that anyone who is not working towards an early grave to prop up that oh-so-important economy is not really worth the trouble. Yes, even those who are unable to work in the usual sense, if at all. (This is regardless of any level of effort one has made in the past, by the way. In this day and age, the United States follows the Janet Jackson School of Social Interaction...)

That programming.

Of course, these have been my experiences in my life in my little corner of the world. Others experiences may (and usually do) vary. However, one can conceivably draw a correlation as to those who have had similar experiences to mine being as cynically cynical as I am, and those who were born and/or raised in a more... fiscally solvent... part of town being less cognizant of why someone like me is so cynical, which usually gets me the 'that whiny bitch' award from someone who will probably never know what socioeconomic suffering is, and therefore can't truly believe in it. ("Can't you just buy another car?&quot

(Addendum: I am well aware that there is way more suffering in the world than mine. Right now, it is time for me to finally start worrying about myself, first and foremost. So, yes, I know. But, I cannot change the world, despite my attempts to do so in my own way. Now, I am just trying to not be too much of a burden to my husband before my heart gives out, although it might be my brain that goes first. I am seeing more evidence for that. Anyway, the rest will just have to find their own path. Mine leads to nothing.)

[LymphocyteLover]

22. thanks for the long explainer... gotcha

[OldBaldy1701E]

23. Sorry, I get on a tear sometimes. (n/t)

[twodogsbarking]

7. Demonstrators could dress like them. They aren't in uniform.

[allegorical oracle]

15. MSNBC this a.m. reported (Antonia Hylton) that unmarked rental vehicles now are

being used instead of ICE-identified SUVs. That makes ICE impersonators' efforts easier -- and decreases the odds of potential arrestees knowing when ICE is in their neighborhoods.

[Layzeebeaver]

8. we are in the second season of "Watchmen"

get used to it...

[bronxiteforever]

12. Six hand picked members of the Supreme Court

decide what freedoms you are allowed. These members were handpicked by rich GOP barons who run think tanks designed to keep their wealth and to chain the lower classes. The richest in the US decide what privileges you can have.

As George Carlin once said: "Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges. That's all we've ever had in this country is a bill of temporary privileges."