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gab13by13

(30,048 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:46 AM Saturday

A Question About The Dismantling, The Gutting Of Our Federal Government

I can't think of a good way to ask this question.

Krasnov has literally dismantled our federal government, gutting agencies, firing employees and not replacing them.
Krasnov has also halted government projects, money that was appropriated by Congress has been stopped, such as the green energy projects, the infrastructure projects enacted under President Biden.

Has anyone calculated how much money is involved in these drastic cuts? Where is that money going, what is being done with it?

Does Krasnov consider he should be rewarded, financially, for gutting the federal government? Has Krasnov created his sovereign wealth fund yet?

Someone other than Treasury Secretary Bessent needs to answer my question.

Is Krasnov diverting that money to his oligarch friends doing quid pro quos?

Not sure I am asking a proper question, help me out.

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A Question About The Dismantling, The Gutting Of Our Federal Government (Original Post) gab13by13 Saturday OP
Also, markodochartaigh Saturday #1
I also believe that the economy is driven by demand and not supply side economics. gab13by13 Saturday #4
They want to do what the wealthy have always done. markodochartaigh Saturday #6
Did you notice that crypto crashed yesterday? Fiendish Thingy Saturday #9
NOPE. gab13by13 Saturday #12
He seems to be trying to trigger a world economic collapse jmbar2 Saturday #2
Exactly, the market crash yesterday gab13by13 Saturday #5
Can AI build yachts and mansions? Fiendish Thingy Saturday #8
Yeah, a skeleton crew of unwashed Americans will be needed. gab13by13 Saturday #13
In 2023, 3 million Americans died Fiendish Thingy Saturday #14
With this "administration" I doubt we'll ever get good answers. nt Nittersing Saturday #3
The cuts result in unspent funds for the fiscal year Fiendish Thingy Saturday #7
We're living the golden goose story. It's the authoritarian story, every time. CrispyQ Saturday #10
Simple: You pay taxes. You get nothing back Bobstandard Saturday #11

markodochartaigh

(4,297 posts)
1. Also,
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:00 AM
Saturday

Trump is attacking the US government by going after the jobs of millions of government employees. Those employees would have spent most of their paychecks back into the economy. And some of the employees at the businesses supported by those government employees will also lose their jobs since those businesses will have less money. The knock-on effects of the mass job losses, and also of the general hesitation to spend money when unemployment is rising, reduce the velocity of money. This is an indicator of an economy headed towards recession.

gab13by13

(30,048 posts)
4. I also believe that the economy is driven by demand and not supply side economics.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:08 AM
Saturday

The problem is that Krasnov and his oligarch friends don't give a shit about the Main Street economy, they can weather, can survive, can make money during a recession, during a depression.

Krasnov and his billionaire friends believe that AI can replace unwashed Americans. They want to crash the dollar, they want a cheap dollar, they want strong Crypto that they can play with in their gated communes.

Krasnov wants depopulation, wants eugenics. The Big Ugly Death Law will kill 50,000 Americans per year.

markodochartaigh

(4,297 posts)
6. They want to do what the wealthy have always done.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:13 AM
Saturday

Buy up assets from distressed people who have to sell at bargain prices.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,969 posts)
9. Did you notice that crypto crashed yesterday?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:19 AM
Saturday

Maybe your perception of Trump’s “plan” is a bit off.

jmbar2

(7,366 posts)
2. He seems to be trying to trigger a world economic collapse
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:05 AM
Saturday

The stock market crush yesterday was a bonanza for insiders trading it. Next week, he will likely reverse himself and they'll all make a killing on the reversal. They simply don't care about anything but money for themselves, even if the rest of the world crashes and burns.

No enemy could have envisioned how easy it is to take down America. I can't imagine how hard it will be to rebuild from this decade-long disaster.

gab13by13

(30,048 posts)
5. Exactly, the market crash yesterday
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:11 AM
Saturday

was simply about Krasnov saying he was going to up the tariffs on China.

We must look at this through the eyes of what a handful of oligarchs want. They don't give a shit about the economy of main Street, the bastards have a plan to kill us off, AI will take care of them.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,969 posts)
8. Can AI build yachts and mansions?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
Saturday

Can AI maintain those yachts and mansions?

Can AI pick the food the oligarchs eat?

Can AI buy the products the oligarchs sell to stay rich?

Can oligarchs stay oligarchs if their only customers are each other?

gab13by13

(30,048 posts)
13. Yeah, a skeleton crew of unwashed Americans will be needed.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:06 PM
Saturday

Even Krasnov has his Waltine Nauta.

The Big Ugly Death Law will kill 50,000 unwashed Americans per year.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,969 posts)
14. In 2023, 3 million Americans died
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:27 PM
Saturday

50,000 additional deaths, while tragic and unnecessary, is hardly enough to reach your imagined dystopian goal of killing off the unwashed masses.

50,000 additional deaths isn’t even a 2% increase in the death rate, and it’s less than 0.2% of the total US population. Even with a declining birth rate, it would take centuries to kill off the non-oligarch population.

There’s enough actual tragic evil destruction happening right now, and the unnecessary deaths caused by lack of health care is part of it. I’m not sure how presuming it’s all part of a Bond Villain plan to kill off the entire population, rather than incompetent corruption and greed by opportunistic morons, helps us resist and fight back.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,969 posts)
7. The cuts result in unspent funds for the fiscal year
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:15 AM
Saturday

My understanding is those funds are absorbed by the treasury dept, and not available for discretionary spending not authorized by congress. The unspent funds would reduce the annual deficit, assuming no court intervenes to order the funds be spent as congress intended.

I have seen no evidence that unspent funds are being diverted to Trump’s friends or family.

CrispyQ

(40,316 posts)
10. We're living the golden goose story. It's the authoritarian story, every time.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:24 AM
Saturday

It's why the 1% aren't stopping him. They could have, via SCOTUS, but they chose not to. Why? Cuz they want that big golden egg, the US Treasury, & they want it so bad they don't care if they kill the goose, the American economy, to get it. We know that cuz they've been squeezing the neck of the goose for decades with their trickle down bullshit & outsourcing.

Today, SNAP benefits have to go, but a few weeks ago we were bringing in trillions in tariffs. Argentine got their $20 billion already but farmers are still waiting. I don't know how bad it has to get to break the spell he has on the cult.

Bobstandard

(2,041 posts)
11. Simple: You pay taxes. You get nothing back
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:47 AM
Saturday

You used to get the benefit of a robust, fully functioning government that tried to do good for every citizen. Keep track of disease keep federal highways repaired, distribute money to cities and counties that needed it for their own projects. That fort of thing. That’s over. Now you tax dollars go directly to the very wealthiest to reduce their taxes. They also increasingly go to Trump’s buddies to build prisons, to fund Ice to keep you in line, and to help foreign governments where Trump has investments.

When Putin took over in Russia he helped his buddies become billionaires by distributing funds and government assets to them in return for their loyalty. You can see the exact thing happening here.

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