4 dead, at least 20 injured in a shooting in South Carolina

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

4 dead, at least 20 injured in a shooting in South Carolina | AP News https://apnews.com/article/south-carolina-shooting-st-helena-147cdcdee43deff913afa548cf28de6e


4 people were killed and 20 more were injured in a shooting at a bar in South Carolina, sheriff says
Updated 7:30 AM PDT, October 12, 2025
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BEAUFORT, S.C. (AP) — A mass shooting at a crowded bar on an idyllic South Carolina island has left four people dead and at least 20 injured, officials say.

The shooting occurred early Sunday at Willie’s Bar and Grill on St. Helena Island, officials said. A large crowd was at the scene when sheriff’s deputies arrived and found several people suffering from gunshot wounds.

“Multiple victims and witnesses ran to the nearby businesses and properties seeking shelter from the gun shots,” the Beaufort County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement on the social media platform X.

“This is a tragic and difficult incident for everyone. We ask for your patience as we continue to investigate this incident. Our thoughts are with all of the victims and their loved ones,” the statement said.

[Irish_Dem]

1. This is the world the MAGAs want. They love the death, injury, chaos, violence.

Suffering and cruelty are their goals.

We see the MAGA leaders do it every day.

[ananda]

6. I didn't think there could be that many coldhearted killers in one group.

But with no real law enforcement in place, they've
all come out of their ratholes.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Yes we had no idea so many Americans would show their dark underbelly.

And be proud of it.

Yes they all crawled out of their ratholes.

[ananda]

8. What does that say about this country...

that so many people could grow up to be such
coldhearted monsters?

It makes me think that they are the descendants
of prison colony deportees and insane asylum
deportees.

[Irish_Dem]

12. I don't think it is the history. But current events.

Most people appear to have a dark side that is held in check by society.

But decades of propaganda and immorality on the part of our leaders
has led to current high rates of narcissism and psychopathic behavior.

I have read the same is true in Russia.
Everyone does whatever they can to get ahead and no one thinks ill of it.
The crimes are just part of life.
Russia is led by a brutal psychopath and the people follow suit.

[ananda]

13. Does Russia couch it's psychopathy in religiosity too?

???

[Irish_Dem]

15. I think Putin pretends to do things as part of a religious framework.

All lies of course.

I don't know about the Russian population.
I don't think this is the case.

The accounts I have had from people who work with Russians is that
the Russians don't follow the laws or rules, they are out for themselves.
It is just matter of fact and they see it as pragmatic and smart.

[ananda]

19. So, if the people who survive are self-centered psychopaths...

that would affect evolution, and weed out the ones who
keep their humanity and empathy.

Even religion takes that turn. If people like that want
to keep it, they make it a mirror of their own
psychopathy.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Rates of moral development:

Most people are in the middle range of moral development.
About 60% of the population does the right thing but they need
the laws, rules, and societal conventions to keep them on the right path.

About 15% are at the top end of the moral ladder, they do the right thing
no matter what the laws, rules, conventions say.

Then about another 15% do not heed laws, rules, conventions.
They do what they want even when they know it is wrong.

[marked50]

21. Don't tell the Australians this theory. N/t

[ananda]

22. Well, we definitely got our share.

Many came to the south as well.

[Blues Heron]

2. Life in a right wing paradise

[Justice Brandeis]

3. They want guns for everybody and lax guns laws in South Carolina

So they tragically got what they voted for.

I'm sure all the South Carolina preachers will be out with their thoughts and prayers from the pulpit this morning.

[UpInArms]

4. APR 06, 2023

"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

[tavernier]

16. Of course he's right about the first part.

If you have a whole bunch of rattlesnakes in your tiny front yard, and you have to walk through them to get to your car, you or your family will get bitten at some point. Maybe you’ll live, maybe you’ll lose a foot, maybe you’ll die. But think about how nice it will be to have rattlesnakes in both yards making baby rattlesnakes.

I think it’s worth it!

[Iggo]

20. "Innocent people must die to protect the second amendment" -- Charlie Kirk, basically.

And a whole bunch of other Gunfuckers, too.

[sinkingfeeling]

5. 4 were killed after a football game in Mississippi and now 4 more in Beaufort. Maybe TSF had better send in the Army to

quell Southern violence.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

10. I thinknthe mississippi count is up to 6

[Irish_Dem]

9. All Americans have signed up for the death by gun lottery.

We do not know when our number will come up.

[Cha]

11. Yeah, Guess where the Fed NG Won't be Going?

That's right.. it's Not a Blue city. .

[malaise]

17. At least four dead

Four more are critical
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/st-helena-south-carolina-bar-shooting/69009513

[struggle4progress]

18. Thank goodness we can all get guns and shoot former classmates at high school reunions!

... The event, part of a weekend series of alumni gatherings, was for Battery Creek High School. It had drawn a large crowd, filling both the bar and its parking lot ...

[Kaleva]

24. Revenge for all those wedgies

[milestogo]

23. I really can't keep up.