Why Johnson and trump will NOT accept Democrats offer to pass bill to pay troops

[LetMyPeopleVote]

The Democrats would be happy to pass a standalone bill to pay troops but trump and Johnson will not agree to this because the House would have to come back

[spanone]

1. It's all about Epstein.

[FakeNoose]

2. Besides that, Mike Johnson will probably lose his job

Too many House Repukes are disgusted with him, and they aren't going to give him the Speakership in the next term.
Bring back Kevin McCarthy!

Oh, wait ...

[displacedvermoter]

4. Didn't I just read on Bulwark

that Johnson may be the most successful House Speaker in history? I guess success means different things to different people.

[Wiz Imp]

7. Huh? He's gotten less legislation passed than any other Speaker

and I don't believe it's even remotely close (except for McCarthy). That is the Speaker's primary job - to make sure legislation passes.

For the record, I did a google search and a through review of the Bulwark's website and found nothing of the sort. Do you have a link?

[FoxNewsSucks]

11. He got the tax cut at the expense of the rest of us.

You have to remember that, like tRump, he's NOT working for us. For the billionaires, he's indeed "successful".

[Wiz Imp]

13. The Bulwark does not represent billionaires.

By any objective measure, Johnson has been a terrible Speaker and I would expect the writers at the Bulwark to agree with that.

Those credited with being among the best Speakers ever include:

Sam Rayburn
Henry Clay
Tip O'Neill
Nancy Pelosi
Joseph Cannon

[displacedvermoter]

14. At work so did cursory check

Newsweek, March 25 and Time, August 25.

Apologies to Bulwark.

Typical Time and Newsweek articles, Johnson has to deal with the mutual mistrust and political divisiveness and has done so with abiding faith and blah, blah, blah....

Thanks for steering me straight!

[Wiz Imp]

19. Thank you. That makes more sense.

I just found and read those 2 articles, and while you could say they praised him, they didn't exactly call him the best speaker ever. Newsweek credited him with getting the budget bill passed, but even admitted beyond that, he has left a lot to be desired. And it looks like Time credited him as "Trump's" speaker - basically a rubber stamp for the President. That might be viewed by MAGAs as complimentary, but not so much by the rest of the country.

[FoxNewsSucks]

10. He got their shitty bill passed, that's all they wanted to accomplish

so to the billionaires calling the shots, yes, he's successful.

[rubbersole]

15. Do it! Gaetz also!

MMA in da house! I miss Milktoast McCarthy. Kinda like I miss a good rash.

[Lovie777]

3. Didn't I just read that shithole...

master of Miky Johnson and sole controller of everybody’s money in the universe said that the troops will get paid.

What happened.

[marble falls]

5. Because it would demonstrate that the GOP caused this shit this time. Because it would display bi-partisenship. ...

... Because it would look like weakness to the RW. Because it would be an exception that would become an opening: who will they fund next - FEMA during hurricane season. The CDC during flu and Covid season. Because Putin told him not to.

Supposedly, he's ordered the Pentagon to keep paying the troops out of the budget they already have on hand. Has anyone ever ducked so much responsibility for their own actions on this level ever before in the US?

[Wiz Imp]

6. Sorry, but there has to be more to it than that

Getting the 218th signature on the discharge petition forces a vote on the bill in the House. You would think it would pass because everyone who signed the discharge petition should vote for it. Unfortunately, if and when that happens, it does not come close to forcing the release of the Epstein files. It would still need to pass the Senate and then signed by Trump (which, of course, will never happen). Johnson and every other Republican involved knows this so forcing that vote on the House bill should not be that big of a deal really, because simply passing the House does nothing. So there has to be more to it about why they don't want that vote to happen.

[ancianita]

8. I didn't know it was a bill that would become law (I guess I didn't think about it enough), so...Thanks for the info.

The way you put it convinces me you're right -- there has to be something else behind this. My theory: it's the shutdown Vought's been dreaming of, so that government can be further disabled and destroyed. Why? So that oligarchs can privatize as much as possible, and by any means necessary. They'll move on to the elections and the rest of the military later.

[Wiz Imp]

16. To be fair, I could be wrong, but everything I've read elsewhere supports what I said.

an example:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5520512-massie-grijalva-epstein-petition/

The legislation, sponsored by Massie and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), would require the DOJ to post, in searchable form, every record the agency possesses related to its investigations into both Epstein, who died by suicide in jail in 2019, and Ghislaine Maxwell, his former girlfriend who is currently serving a 20-year prison sentence for crimes related to the sexual abuse of minors.

Johnson and GOP leaders oppose the legislation, arguing it has little chance of success since it would still have to move through the Senate, and win Trump’s signature, to become law. The Speaker is advocating instead for a separate investigation being led by Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), the chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, who has already released thousands of files obtained under subpoena from both the Justice Department and Epstein’s estate.

[ancianita]

17. Thanks for the link on it.

[Trueblue Texan]

9. I think we should be demanding that in event of future shutdowns...

Congress is not allowed to leave the Capitol building from 9-5 Monday through Friday. If they refuse to negotiate, they can sit around and brain storm for a solution to their impasse with their colleagues, alphabetize their books, sharpen their pencils, or read the Constitution among other useful tasks. Unlike plenty of federal workers who are forced to continue to report to work, they are being paid. They are not being paid to shut down our government then go on a holiday because they don't like the way an election went or because they don't want to go on the record for keeping the Epstein files sealed. They work for us. We should demand they work as hard as we do. No more free rides.

[ancianita]

18. Exactly. If they're getting paid during a shutdown, they HAVE to work during the shutdown.

It's horrible of them to go along with people in the military and FAA and elsewhere still having to work with no pay, while these cowardly toadies are still not working and still getting paid.

[Harker]

12. Why do they hate America?

There's an oldie that has taken on new meaning.

[videohead5]

20. What is Johnson going to do?

They can't stay out forever. At some point Johnson will have to call them back.