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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums172% of Voters Cast Ballots in Palm Beach Precinct 1716? Now That's Some Fuzzy Math.
Upon further investigation (so far), five precincts were identified as having exceeded 100% turnout, raising additional concerns about registration integrity and reconciliation errors:
Palm Beach Precinct 1716: 222 registered, 382 votes, 172% turnout.
Palm Beach Precinct 5733: 6 registered, 8 votes, 133% turnout.
Palm Beach Precinct 2512: 4 registered, 5 votes, 125% turnout.
Miami-Dade Precinct 458: 300 registered, 369 votes, 123% turnout.
Miami-Dade Precinct 288: 43 registered, 45 votes, 104% turnout.
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/172-of-voters-cast-ballots-in-palm
gab13by13
(30,275 posts)I dont give a shit if they call me a conspiracy theorist.
Wish Bob Casey had requested an audit.
tritsofme
(19,628 posts)gab13by13
(30,275 posts)Surges for Trump on Election Day but only in the battleground states, in no others.
A Magat in Michigan is serving 8 years in prison for tampering with a voting machine.
Im sorry, but I find it impossible that Trump won all the swing states.
Also, I dont believe he won the popular vote.
Musk had a whole fleet a little computer whizzes who could reprogram with their eyes closed.
And remember the woman in a western state who either authorized someone else to / or she did it herself where they got hold of voting machines and the software. AND, the consulting company that was hired to look into voting irregularities which wound up being a complete fiasco.
Lastly, there is Rockland Co NY which has an ongoing investigation on vote-splitting irregularities. I believe they are waiting the judges decision on whether the case can continue so there can be a recount. Not sure why its taking so long.
Botany
(75,697 posts)vote has favored the Republicans in Presidential elections that they have won.
yellow dahlia
(3,721 posts)tritsofme
(19,628 posts)Making her complicit in a coverup?
Or do you just find Harris and senior Democratic officials to be so stupid and ignorant that they havent figured it out?
Harris was just on a book tour, I dont recall her raising these sorts of questions, even though she had ample opportunity.
Why doesnt Harris endorse or even lend the smallest credence to these goofy Trump inspired conspiracy theories being pushed, if there was even the tiniest connection to reality?
OMGWTF
(4,942 posts)The Rockland County, NY election interference trial was brought by a third-party candidate after they received zero votes in some precincts, and they knew that wasn't right. There are precincts where Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand won in a landslide, but Kamala received zero votes. There was much fkery afoot -- bomb scares, voter purges, intimidation, and the fact that T💩p and Eloon were bragging about not needing anyone to vote because they have the magic computer or some such sh!t.
tritsofme
(19,628 posts)In the hope that some rag-tag group of nobodies and their longer-than-long shot lawsuit exposes it all in
Rockland County?
Yikes
The rest is just regurgitating Trumps 2020 nonsense, these conspiracy theories really are pathetic.
N/t
tritsofme
(19,628 posts)Or you are accusing her of being too dumb to even realize it was stolen.
I dont know why this group of election deniers is so obsessed with viciously attacking Kamalas character like this. It is disgusting.
What codswallop.
tritsofme
(19,628 posts)Initech
(106,712 posts)And he had Steve Bannon to help. Steve Bannon is Trump's Roger Stone.
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,101 posts)nothing to see here, Clerical errors in favor of the republican candidate, rinse and repeat.
**** you know what pisses me off, the 2000 SC and their role in deciding the election and then never having to answer for it, in public, in Congress or to all the voters they screwed over.
OMGWTF
(4,942 posts)They have zero interest in governing for the good of the people; we are their marks.
nycbos
(6,624 posts)Silent Type
(11,670 posts)Botany
(75,697 posts)Those #s are real.
Silent Type
(11,670 posts)TheRickles
(3,027 posts)onenote
(45,753 posts)Or are the numbers "real" just because you want them to be real?
D_Master81
(2,268 posts)Ive seen David Packman do an interview with a guy that looks into the stats of elections and brought up a bunch of counties where the vote was odd. Now he makes the point that he has no proof that any tampering happened but that the data moved toward Trump in all of these odd counties. Couple that with more data coming out where counties are reporting that well over 100% of voters voted and youre starting to form a picture of vote tampering
Botany
(75,697 posts). in 22 went 85% for a liberal woman for Governor.
EdmondDantes_
(1,055 posts)Oh yeah, the same as 2024. Trump swept that same precinct. And in 2022 Hochul got 24 votes and the Republican candidate 408 votes. Also seems rather short sighted to steal all 500ish votes in a state he lost by over a million. What exactly was the point? Conspiracies so rarely hold up unless you're looking to believe.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/
yellow dahlia
(3,721 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,306 posts)votes for Kamala? Because, if so, that is some large numbers and they got away with it.
bluestarone
(20,611 posts)I 100% do NOT have any proof. It's how i feel. There behavior before and after is what i'm basing my opinion on. Now, i've been told many times here that Democratic states would NEVER allow it to happen. I understand that, BUT holy shit we got the most important election of our lifetime coming in Nov. 2028. WTF would be wrong with running ALL numbers in EVERY state we currently control? It really does not hurt a god dam thing to want to be 100% sure. I'm thinking we could argue everyday, and NEVER find the truth. WE need the truth BEFORE 2028 November.
OMGWTF
(4,942 posts)Celerity
(52,743 posts)It suggests they were all either profoundly incompetent and/or in on the rigging.
These 2024 electional denialism claims are evidence-free CT claptrap, same as it was for Maga in 2020.
CanonRay
(15,727 posts)annielion
(72 posts)There is a good video of an interview of Nathan of ETA, which includes data about Florida. Nathan was interviewed by Chad Dubois who has a podcast video, He's Not Wrong, Episode 32. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLktPmp895fXb3JlU5BFeegugQ0eUv9cYN There is some information in the latter part of the video explaining ETA has been working in Florida with Alison Greene, an investigative journalist. She is posting at itsuptous.substack.com.
Working on the ground in Florida, Alison, Nathan Taylor of ETA and others looked at actual voter registration databases. Russia accessed voter registration databases in 2016 in St Lucie County, Florida, and possibly throughout the country. For the 2024 election, the group found precincts in St Lucie County where more than 100% of the registered voters were voting, similar to what is listed here regarding Miami-Dade and Palm Beach Counties. Also, people whose only address was UPS illegally voted. With information about voter registrations, voters could also be removed from the database.
Another issue of concern that Nathan mentioned is the software update of the tabulators before the 2024 election. The update was performed by Pro V&V. The update may have eliminated security features. If the security features are disabled, any changes to the tabulators could go unnoticed.
Botany
(75,697 posts)Trump knew the fix was in and said and or acted as much multiple times during the campaign.
July 2024
On Fox News Thursday morning, Donald Trump had a weird instruction for his supporters: they dont have to vote. My instruction: We dont need the votes, I have so many votes, Trump said on Fox & Friends before going on a rant about how much support he has in Florida
These analysts of the vote are done by real experts in computers, statistics, election security,
math, cyber security, and political science. This is not conspiracy theory crap.
And how come over the years it seems every anomaly, glitch, error, person being dropped from
the voter rolls, hanging chad, strange voter turn out #s such as in 2024 with 70% of Americans
supporting a womans right to choose which was shown in almost every election post the over-
turning of Roe v Wade that voting block just disappeared, and so on helped the Republican
Presidential Candidate?
cmmngrnd
(24 posts)Reason #1 - The OP numbers are wrong per supervisor of elections sites. I posted the quoted material below in response the last time this was posted. I have not updated for the new OP numbers. If the original numbers are wrong, I distrust any of them.
Reason #2 - This is Florida, a state everybody knew Trump would win without cheating. There was no reason to expend energy or risk exposing any plots or going to jail for Florida. Show me number like this for the swing states, with verifiable numbers from the supervisor of elections.
"Checked the Palm Beach numbers. I'll give links so you can check me. Links given for precinct 1716, but it's the same link for all of them. Looks like the only precinct that has more votes than voters is 2512 (5 votes, 4 voters) and it seems likely that one vote is simply a change in voter registration in the 12 months since the election. The other Palm Bay precincts in the OP are not anomalous.
I didn't check the Miami-Dade numbers. Since the Palm Beach numbers didn't match the OP, it doesn't seem like the Miami-Dade ones will either.
The cited article doesn't say how they got their numbers, so no way to check what they were doing.
A last note - using percentages (175%) when such small number are involved (5 vote, 8 votes) is a standard way to make things look bad when maybe things aren't so bad. Percentages and small sample sizes don't mix.
Precinct 1716:
Total votes: 382 (matches OP)
Registered voters: 412 (OP claims 222) PDF File, dated 9 Sept 2025
Registered voters: 416 (OP claims 222) Precinct calculator (you may have to select the precinct again)
Precinct 5733:
Total votes: 8 (matches OP)
Registered Voters: 9 (OP claims 6) per PDF file dated 9 Sept 2025
Registered voters: 9 (OP claims 6) per Precinct Calculator
Precinct 2512:
Total votes: 5 (matches OP)
Registered Voters: 4 (matches OP) per PDF file dated 9 Sept 2025
Registered voters: 4 (matches OP) per Precinct Calculator"
tritsofme
(19,628 posts)Response to Botany (Original post)
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BannonsLiver
(19,843 posts)mopinko
(73,107 posts)harris won the 1st 2, the third, all 5 votes went to it.
i dont see vr numbers, but i dont have all day to dig.
https://enr.electionsfl.org/PAL/3703/Precincts/52723/0/99/
tried to find the m-d results, not apparent on the site.
MineralMan
(150,056 posts)This sounds bogus to me. Statistics like that are public records. What do the official counts say? That information should be available from official Florida government web sites.
I think this may be incorrect information.
Botany
(75,697 posts)N/t
Botany
(75,697 posts)N/t
Patton French
(1,801 posts)but this isn't one of them.
Botany
(75,697 posts)Btw I am less than happy about True the Vote not having any way to get in touch with them.
Ms. Toad
(37,927 posts)Votes in excess of registered voters would have been caught during the reconciliation process (before the vote was certified).