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Botany

(75,697 posts)
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:24 PM Tuesday

172% of Voters Cast Ballots in Palm Beach Precinct 1716? Now That's Some Fuzzy Math.



Upon further investigation (so far), five precincts were identified as having exceeded 100% turnout, raising additional concerns about registration integrity and reconciliation errors:

Palm Beach Precinct 1716: 222 registered, 382 votes, 172% turnout.
Palm Beach Precinct 5733: 6 registered, 8 votes, 133% turnout.
Palm Beach Precinct 2512: 4 registered, 5 votes, 125% turnout.
Miami-Dade Precinct 458: 300 registered, 369 votes, 123% turnout.
Miami-Dade Precinct 288: 43 registered, 45 votes, 104% turnout.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/172-of-voters-cast-ballots-in-palm



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172% of Voters Cast Ballots in Palm Beach Precinct 1716? Now That's Some Fuzzy Math. (Original Post) Botany Tuesday OP
Kamala won, gab13by13 Tuesday #1
And everyone knows! Well...Except for Kamala! LOL tritsofme Tuesday #3
Too many anomalies, gab13by13 Tuesday #4
Agree. Karma13612 Tuesday #6
And since 1968 every anomaly, glitch, hanging chad, almost voter registration question, and discarded Botany Tuesday #8
Keep the data coming. yellow dahlia Tuesday #20
So are you accusing Kamala of knowing all this, and that she has just decided to remain silent for whatever reason? tritsofme Tuesday #13
Kamala won but I think it needs to be a neutral third-party. Dems are afraid of looking like the J6 MAGAts. OMGWTF Tuesday #17
So you're thinking Harris knows the election was stolen from her, but due to cowardice has remained silent? tritsofme Tuesday #24
No Botany Tuesday #25
If you are pushing these conspiracy theories, it's either one or the other. Harris is complicit in a coverup tritsofme Tuesday #26
Please Botany Tuesday #28
You pointedly don't offer any alternative. tritsofme Tuesday #29
Donald Trump didn't win, he staged a coup. Initech Tuesday #22
I bet all the over votes were for Orange Dufus! RANDYWILDMAN Tuesday #2
Rethuglicans are criminals who will lie, cheat, steal, and kill for power. OMGWTF Tuesday #18
Who is the author of this post? nycbos Tuesday #5
I little research indicates this is CT BS. Silent Type Tuesday #7
It is not CT B.S. Botany Tuesday #10
Believe what you like. Silent Type Tuesday #14
Could you provide some links to this research? Thanks. TheRickles Tuesday #16
Do you have a factual, substantiated rebuttal to post #31 onenote 16 hrs ago #36
There were many "irregularities" D_Master81 Tuesday #9
In Rockland County, NY one precinct of 350 votes produced zero votes for Harris in '24 and the same county... Botany Tuesday #12
And what were the numbers for that precinct in 2020? EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #34
I believe the interview you reference was with Election Truth Alliance. yellow dahlia Tuesday #21
Is this suggesting that they packed the ballots with votes for Trump to override the Baitball Blogger Tuesday #11
Ok, ok i know this is all a deadhorse argument, but i've ALWAYS felt TSF and his bunch stole that election. bluestarone Tuesday #15
They admitted it. Repeatedly. OMGWTF Tuesday #19
Harris did not win. This continued CT claiming she did is a direct attack on the Biden admin, the Dem Party, & Harris. Celerity Tuesday #23
How can a precinct have 4 registered voters? CanonRay Tuesday #27
ETA has been on the ground in Florida annielion Tuesday #30
Thank you. I have done election protection work for 20 years. Botany 17 hrs ago #35
Two Reasons to Dismiss This as Baseless Conspiracy cmmngrnd Tuesday #31
How dare you interrupt an election denial fantasy session with facts? tritsofme Tuesday #32
This message was self-deleted by its author hay rick Tuesday #33
They would have been super concerned about losing Florida so this makes a lot of sense. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #37
the palm beach results- mopinko 15 hrs ago #38
What was the source cited by that substack? MineralMan 15 hrs ago #39
I will try to find out contact information. Botany 14 hrs ago #40
I can find no contact information about this will hold. Botany 12 hrs ago #41
There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical about the election Patton French 9 hrs ago #42
How about this one? Botany 9 hrs ago #43
Nonsense. Ms. Toad 9 hrs ago #44

gab13by13

(30,275 posts)
1. Kamala won,
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
Tuesday

I don’t give a shit if they call me a conspiracy theorist.

Wish Bob Casey had requested an audit.

gab13by13

(30,275 posts)
4. Too many anomalies,
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:35 PM
Tuesday

Surges for Trump on Election Day but only in the battleground states, in no others.

A Magat in Michigan is serving 8 years in prison for tampering with a voting machine.

Karma13612

(4,853 posts)
6. Agree.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:04 PM
Tuesday

I’m sorry, but I find it impossible that Trump won all the swing states.

Also, I don’t believe he won the popular vote.

Musk had a whole fleet a little computer whizzes who could reprogram with their eyes closed.
And remember the woman in a western state who either authorized someone else to / or she did it herself where they got hold of voting machines and the software. AND, the consulting company that was hired to look into voting irregularities which wound up being a complete fiasco.

Lastly, there is Rockland Co NY which has an ongoing investigation on vote-splitting irregularities. I believe they are waiting the judge’s decision on whether the case can continue so there can be a recount. Not sure why it’s taking so long.

Botany

(75,697 posts)
8. And since 1968 every anomaly, glitch, hanging chad, almost voter registration question, and discarded
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:11 PM
Tuesday

… vote has favored the Republicans in Presidential elections that they have “won.”

tritsofme

(19,628 posts)
13. So are you accusing Kamala of knowing all this, and that she has just decided to remain silent for whatever reason?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:26 PM
Tuesday

Making her complicit in a coverup?

Or do you just find Harris and senior Democratic officials to be so stupid and ignorant that they haven’t figured it out?

Harris was just on a book tour, I don’t recall her raising these sorts of questions, even though she had ample opportunity.

Why doesn’t Harris endorse or even lend the smallest credence to these goofy Trump inspired conspiracy theories being pushed, if there was even the tiniest connection to reality?

OMGWTF

(4,942 posts)
17. Kamala won but I think it needs to be a neutral third-party. Dems are afraid of looking like the J6 MAGAts.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 06:57 PM
Tuesday

The Rockland County, NY election interference trial was brought by a third-party candidate after they received zero votes in some precincts, and they knew that wasn't right. There are precincts where Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand won in a landslide, but Kamala received zero votes. There was much fkery afoot -- bomb scares, voter purges, intimidation, and the fact that T💩p and Eloon were bragging about not needing anyone to vote because they have the magic computer or some such sh!t.

tritsofme

(19,628 posts)
24. So you're thinking Harris knows the election was stolen from her, but due to cowardice has remained silent?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:11 PM
Tuesday

In the hope that some rag-tag group of nobodies and their longer-than-long shot lawsuit exposes it all in…Rockland County?

Yikes…The rest is just regurgitating Trump’s 2020 nonsense, these conspiracy theories really are pathetic.

tritsofme

(19,628 posts)
26. If you are pushing these conspiracy theories, it's either one or the other. Harris is complicit in a coverup
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:48 PM
Tuesday

Or you are accusing her of being too dumb to even realize it was stolen.

I don’t know why this group of election deniers is so obsessed with viciously attacking Kamala’s character like this. It is disgusting.

Initech

(106,712 posts)
22. Donald Trump didn't win, he staged a coup.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:05 PM
Tuesday

And he had Steve Bannon to help. Steve Bannon is Trump's Roger Stone.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,101 posts)
2. I bet all the over votes were for Orange Dufus!
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
Tuesday

nothing to see here, Clerical errors in favor of the republican candidate, rinse and repeat.

**** you know what pisses me off, the 2000 SC and their role in deciding the election and then never having to answer for it, in public, in Congress or to all the voters they screwed over.

OMGWTF

(4,942 posts)
18. Rethuglicans are criminals who will lie, cheat, steal, and kill for power.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 06:59 PM
Tuesday

They have zero interest in governing for the good of the people; we are their marks.

onenote

(45,753 posts)
36. Do you have a factual, substantiated rebuttal to post #31
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 08:54 AM
16 hrs ago

Or are the numbers "real" just because you want them to be real?

D_Master81

(2,268 posts)
9. There were many "irregularities"
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:12 PM
Tuesday

I’ve seen David Packman do an interview with a guy that looks into the stats of elections and brought up a bunch of counties where the vote was odd. Now he makes the point that he has no proof that any tampering happened but that the data moved toward Trump in all of these odd counties. Couple that with more data coming out where counties are reporting that well over 100% of voters voted and you’re starting to form a picture of vote tampering

Botany

(75,697 posts)
12. In Rockland County, NY one precinct of 350 votes produced zero votes for Harris in '24 and the same county...
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:17 PM
Tuesday

…. in ‘22 went 85% for a liberal woman for Governor.

EdmondDantes_

(1,055 posts)
34. And what were the numbers for that precinct in 2020?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:00 PM
Tuesday

Oh yeah, the same as 2024. Trump swept that same precinct. And in 2022 Hochul got 24 votes and the Republican candidate 408 votes. Also seems rather short sighted to steal all 500ish votes in a state he lost by over a million. What exactly was the point? Conspiracies so rarely hold up unless you're looking to believe.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/

Baitball Blogger

(51,306 posts)
11. Is this suggesting that they packed the ballots with votes for Trump to override the
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:14 PM
Tuesday

votes for Kamala? Because, if so, that is some large numbers and they got away with it.

bluestarone

(20,611 posts)
15. Ok, ok i know this is all a deadhorse argument, but i've ALWAYS felt TSF and his bunch stole that election.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:47 PM
Tuesday

I 100% do NOT have any proof. It's how i feel. There behavior before and after is what i'm basing my opinion on. Now, i've been told many times here that Democratic states would NEVER allow it to happen. I understand that, BUT holy shit we got the most important election of our lifetime coming in Nov. 2028. WTF would be wrong with running ALL numbers in EVERY state we currently control? It really does not hurt a god dam thing to want to be 100% sure. I'm thinking we could argue everyday, and NEVER find the truth. WE need the truth BEFORE 2028 November.

Celerity

(52,743 posts)
23. Harris did not win. This continued CT claiming she did is a direct attack on the Biden admin, the Dem Party, & Harris.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:08 PM
Tuesday

It suggests they were all either profoundly incompetent and/or in on the rigging.

These 2024 electional denialism claims are evidence-free CT claptrap, same as it was for Maga in 2020.

annielion

(72 posts)
30. ETA has been on the ground in Florida
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:03 PM
Tuesday

There is a good video of an interview of Nathan of ETA, which includes data about Florida. Nathan was interviewed by Chad Dubois who has a podcast video, He's Not Wrong, Episode 32. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLktPmp895fXb3JlU5BFeegugQ0eUv9cYN There is some information in the latter part of the video explaining ETA has been working in Florida with Alison Greene, an investigative journalist. She is posting at itsuptous.substack.com.

Working on the ground in Florida, Alison, Nathan Taylor of ETA and others looked at actual voter registration databases. Russia accessed voter registration databases in 2016 in St Lucie County, Florida, and possibly throughout the country. For the 2024 election, the group found precincts in St Lucie County where more than 100% of the registered voters were voting, similar to what is listed here regarding Miami-Dade and Palm Beach Counties. Also, people whose only address was UPS illegally voted. With information about voter registrations, voters could also be removed from the database.

Another issue of concern that Nathan mentioned is the software update of the tabulators before the 2024 election. The update was performed by Pro V&V. The update may have eliminated security features. If the security features are disabled, any changes to the tabulators could go unnoticed.

Botany

(75,697 posts)
35. Thank you. I have done election protection work for 20 years.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 07:49 AM
17 hrs ago

Trump knew the fix was in and said and or acted as much multiple times during the campaign.

July 2024

On Fox News Thursday morning, Donald Trump had a weird instruction for his supporters: they don’t have to vote. “My instruction: We don’t need the votes, I have so many votes,” Trump said on Fox & Friends before going on a rant about how much support he has in Florida

These analysts of the vote are done by real experts in computers, statistics, election security,
math, cyber security, and political science. This is not conspiracy theory crap.

And how come over the years it seems every anomaly, glitch, error, person being dropped from
the voter rolls, hanging chad, strange voter turn out #s such as in 2024 with 70% of Americans
supporting a woman’s right to choose which was shown in almost every election post the over-
turning of Roe v Wade that voting block just disappeared, and so on helped the Republican
Presidential Candidate?

cmmngrnd

(24 posts)
31. Two Reasons to Dismiss This as Baseless Conspiracy
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:06 PM
Tuesday

Reason #1 - The OP numbers are wrong per supervisor of elections sites. I posted the quoted material below in response the last time this was posted. I have not updated for the new OP numbers. If the original numbers are wrong, I distrust any of them.

Reason #2 - This is Florida, a state everybody knew Trump would win without cheating. There was no reason to expend energy or risk exposing any plots or going to jail for Florida. Show me number like this for the swing states, with verifiable numbers from the supervisor of elections.

"Checked the Palm Beach numbers. I'll give links so you can check me. Links given for precinct 1716, but it's the same link for all of them. Looks like the only precinct that has more votes than voters is 2512 (5 votes, 4 voters) and it seems likely that one vote is simply a change in voter registration in the 12 months since the election. The other Palm Bay precincts in the OP are not anomalous.

I didn't check the Miami-Dade numbers. Since the Palm Beach numbers didn't match the OP, it doesn't seem like the Miami-Dade ones will either.

The cited article doesn't say how they got their numbers, so no way to check what they were doing.

A last note - using percentages (175%) when such small number are involved (5 vote, 8 votes) is a standard way to make things look bad when maybe things aren't so bad. Percentages and small sample sizes don't mix.

Precinct 1716:
Total votes: 382 (matches OP)
Registered voters: 412 (OP claims 222) PDF File, dated 9 Sept 2025
Registered voters: 416 (OP claims 222) Precinct calculator (you may have to select the precinct again)

Precinct 5733:
Total votes: 8 (matches OP)
Registered Voters: 9 (OP claims 6) per PDF file dated 9 Sept 2025
Registered voters: 9 (OP claims 6) per Precinct Calculator

Precinct 2512:
Total votes: 5 (matches OP)
Registered Voters: 4 (matches OP) per PDF file dated 9 Sept 2025
Registered voters: 4 (matches OP) per Precinct Calculator"

Response to Botany (Original post)

BannonsLiver

(19,843 posts)
37. They would have been super concerned about losing Florida so this makes a lot of sense.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 09:22 AM
16 hrs ago


mopinko

(73,107 posts)
38. the palm beach results-
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:18 AM
15 hrs ago

harris won the 1st 2, the third, all 5 votes went to it.
i dont see vr numbers, but i dont have all day to dig.
https://enr.electionsfl.org/PAL/3703/Precincts/52723/0/99/
tried to find the m-d results, not apparent on the site.

MineralMan

(150,056 posts)
39. What was the source cited by that substack?
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:23 AM
15 hrs ago

This sounds bogus to me. Statistics like that are public records. What do the official counts say? That information should be available from official Florida government web sites.

I think this may be incorrect information.

Patton French

(1,801 posts)
42. There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical about the election
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 03:48 PM
9 hrs ago

but this isn't one of them.

Ms. Toad

(37,927 posts)
44. Nonsense.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 04:21 PM
9 hrs ago

Votes in excess of registered voters would have been caught during the reconciliation process (before the vote was certified).

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