An observation about one of the Epstein victims who has spoken out.

[hamsterjill]

I watched a podcast last night with Lisa Phillips. She was being interviewed on a podcast that is not the one that she hosts. Ms. Phillips is the one who at the press conference a couple of months ago stood at the podium and said the victims were going to compile their own list.

In this particular interview, she was asked about that. She tried to backtrack and say she didn't say that the victims were compiling a list. Ms. Phillips said that it was about reclaiming her power and that people just took the comment to mean that victims would be compiling a list. The host emphatically stated that she (herself) was "one of those people" who took the comment to mean that victims would be compiling a list. It was VERY clear when Ms. Phillips made the comment at the press conference. There was no mistaking the words used.

It felt like Ms. Phillips is now back peddling. And I am not here to pass judgment on these women. They have been through horrors that most of us can never understand. But it made me sense that someone has gotten to her or something has happened to her of late, and I'm just hoping that these women do not lose their incentive to speak out and see this case through. I sincerely hope that the attorneys handling the cases for these women are providing them with the means to feel safe.

[rampartd]

1. they are quite expendable to dear leader

i;m surprised they have not all suicided by now.

[misanthrope]

2. Don' t you mean

"have been suicided"?

[Midnight Writer]

3. They release a list, and they are subject to lawsuits. Probably not something they need added to their plate right now.

[hamsterjill]

5. I agree. But Ms. Phillips should not have said that if she didn't intend to do it.

I doubt very seriously that any of the attorneys who represent these women were aware she intended to say that, nor would they have approved. Phillips also defended Trump to an extent in the podcast. It just felt like someone had threatened her.

There's also one survivor who also, every time I've seen her interviewed, makes it a point to bring up Bill Clinton's name. She doesn't imply that Clinton has done anything, she just drops the name.

There are already SO MANY people who would look for any, minute detail to discredit these women. I hope they have good counsel and I hope the women (themselves) will abide by the suggestions that counsel makes. I want them safe, I want them whole and healthy, and I want them to get the justice that they deserve.

[CoopersDad]

4. They can post the list anonymously, it needs to be done.

And it doesn't need to be done in a way that puts their lives in danger.

[hamsterjill]

6. The list needs to come out.

As I've said before on DU, I am old and I lived through Deep Throat. There are ways for things to get done.

[Kid Berwyn]

7. Where are the photos?

And videos? And audio?

We need them to double-check names.

[Jacson6]

8. The problem is that these are rich people.

They can sue the victims for defamation and they would have to hire an attorney to defend themselves in a court of law at a very high cost in attorney & legal fees. It is better to have the government publish the list, so that they aren't liable. You can't be sued for reporting a crime to the government. It is just the reality in today's litigious society.

[hamsterjill]

9. I think we all understand that.

I think Ms. Phillips spoke irresponsibly when she said they would compile a list, etc. I doubt she was advised by her attorney to make that statement. Again, she's a victim and she's been through hell, so I give her some grace. But, the same powerful men that you indicate can sue can also intimidate and frighten.

So, once again, I am stating that I hope the victims follow the advice of their counsel, I hope they get what they need to be healthy and whole, we owe them a debt of gratitude for speaking up, and I hope they are well protected.

[Jacson6]

10. Ditto!