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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn Gavin Newsom: It was an intentional and premeditated lie spread by the same paid MAGA influencer and bot network
It wasnât a âclaimâ though. It was an intentional and premeditated lie spread by the same paid MAGA influencer and bot network that does this stuff daily.
— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-02-24T00:04:50.900Z
Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)Im not trying to impress you, Im just trying to impress upon you; Im like you. Im no better than you. You know, Im a 960 SAT guy, you know, and Im not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all-there if you got 940- But literally a 960 SAT guy, I cannot- youve never seen me read a speech, because I cannot read (pauses) a speech. Maybe the wrong business to be in.
applegrove
(131,433 posts)Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)applegrove
(131,433 posts)by the time the truth gets its shoes on. Galling is one way of putting it.... morally dead is another.
Lovie777
(22,478 posts)Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,272 posts)Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,272 posts)...but they often attack Democrats as much as they do MAGA fascists...
Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,607 posts)Scott Jennings. I know how popular he is here.
Yes, this is definitely a rightwing smear.
PeaceWave
(2,973 posts)Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)betsuni
(28,933 posts)Polly Hennessey
(8,739 posts)Swede
(38,998 posts)nt
yardwork
(69,154 posts)Kingofalldems
(40,122 posts)I would hope admins would take that thread down.
Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)usonian
(24,396 posts)That YOU was a lie.
I knows my trolls. It's not lightly said that I am "The Mad Prophet of the Internet"
sometimes.
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In fairness, that quote was blind.
Translation: pulled out of someone's ass.
Gavin didn't say that. Who did?
Saying "you" without qualifying who "you" are could be amplifying RW trolls.
Please qualify it or get alerted.
Accuracy matters here, even if nowhere else on earth. Saying "you" can be inclusive but most often isn't. Depends on who you EXACTLY are.
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lostincalifornia
(5,207 posts)post was an intentional misrepresentation of what happened.
usonian
(24,396 posts)I wonder if anyone has? But even when OP's get deleted, the threads stay up, based on stale or refuted info.
I don't recall any entire threads here being taken down in their entirety, though I have seen some Hacker News threads disappear.
I'm not keeping count.
Though I'll reiterate that I trust zero "social media" posts, and will either look for a reasonable source, or let the mods and users at Hacker News filter out rubbish for me. I get a lot of good ideas there and share them here, but only one in 100 or 200 make the jump.
That's why these two forums are so valuable.
Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)Scrivener7
(59,147 posts)but that concern him greatly.
Luckily, they're not training them well and he's totally transparent.
angrychair
(12,023 posts)Let's just get this part out of the way first so I can't have my intentions misinterpreted:
In full disclosure Newsom is NOT my pick for president and I freely admit I will fight for almost anyone else but him in the primary process.
That said, to be clear: if Newsom wins the primary I will support him and vote for him.
Now that is out of the way...
The words he said and who he was saying it to still make this very rough around the edges and a bit unseemly in my opinion.
The person he said that to was Andre Dickens, the Black mayor of Atlanta.
So, I freely admit that some would not find that racist, while others might.
Why would I say that?
Because the implications is that he did poorly on his SAT and unless he knows him well seems like a odd assumption. Not only that he did poorly but also because he might not be that smart. Also a bit of an odd assumption. The statement sounded a little condescending to be honest. At least in my opinion.
Also to be clear, he kind of walked into a field of landmines. Here is the rub with standardized tests like the SAT: historically standardized tests have had a tendency to test Blacks and Latinos poorly due to a white centric lean in word problem creation and literary references. Another significant factor is typically, due to systemic racism and redlining, people that live in poorer areas have fewer educational resources and poorer educational outcomes and therefore, on average, poorer outcomes on standardized tests than white people from primarily white suburban areas. That isn't my opinion but supported by years of peer-reviewed scientific studies.
While I'm willing to admit maybe that wasn't his intention, it's still not a good look when examined in context. Mistakes like these can be overcome but we need candidates that think before they speak and not become fodder for some ignorant racist's podcast.
Tried to give several references to show I'm not trying to denigrate anyone but have an honest discussion as to why some might see things a different way and might see the comment as racist or a little tone deaf.
References:
https://theatlantavoice.com/testing-bias-black-students/
https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/racist-beginnings-standardized-testing
https://wordinblack.com/2024/02/culturally-blind-standardized-tests-more-like-culturally-biased/
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1473284.pdf
PeaceWave
(2,973 posts)betsuni
(28,933 posts)lostincalifornia
(5,207 posts)Governor Newsom's record should be the first clue that something doesn't sync up.
This has been the modus operandi of the right wing for some time to do anything to try and divide Democrats.
It was done with Al Franken, Hillary, Biden, Harris, etc.
This is not to say we shouldn't be critical when Democrats do objectionable things, but we should also not blindly accept things that seem contrary to what we know about something.
SunImp
(2,671 posts)It was done with Al Franken, Hillary, Biden, Harris, etc.
Don't forget many Progressive caucus members, Anti-Ice & Anti-war protestors have also been smeared or snipped out of context by dishonest people hiding out in shady corners possibly using bots or by pretending to be protestors to inflame tensions. & I'm sure we all know how "trustworthy" Official state accounts/sources are about anything going on right now.
DFW
(59,953 posts)Doing exactly that brought a tragedy of International proportions (Hillary 2016) and another of national proportions (Al Franken 2017). In Als case, Roger Stone counted on people not knowing the difference between came forward and were brought forward. He won that bet, and five of the Democratic Senators he hoodwinked STILL had the gall to run for president in 2020 (Warren, Booker, Harris, Gillibrand and Sanders), none of which got the nomination, which spared me a dilemma that year, although that (the nomination of Biden) had been my prediction anyway.
pinkstarburst
(1,937 posts)Republicans can't be happy about polling that shows him beating Vance. Right now he's getting a lot of attention ahead of 2028. He may not be the nominee, but expect them to try to take him out because they are AFRAID. We can't get distracted and divided by their lies.