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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm convinced it was more than just a sex trafficking ring...
It was an international plot, stealing state secrets, blackmailing, manipulating markets, consolidating wealth, holding working families hostage to increase the wealth of an international oligarchy and concentrating power in the hands of a few very evil people. Accountability must be severe and guaranteed.
GiqueCee
(3,749 posts)h2ebits
(992 posts)Epstein is just the tip of the iceberg.
Doodley
(11,825 posts)benefits Putin.
Blues Heron
(8,577 posts)Probatim
(3,250 posts)Lure them in under the premise of networking, set them up with a honeypot, and blackmail the ever loving shit out of them.
That so many in Pedolf's cabinet are also in the files, means there's a lot we'll never know about.
rampartd
(4,439 posts)comp a room with a video setup and send in the dead girl or live boy.
his cabinet are "loyal" because if not the video can be leaked or the redactions flubbed.
Bread and Circuses
(1,791 posts)Ive come to same co clusion.
This is much more than a political toppling.
We have a borderless conglomerate of criminal syndicates re-tooling Fascism with Tech/Crypto.
Norrrm
(4,594 posts)LakeVermilion
(1,547 posts)See the Ken Burns documentary!
BadgerMom
(3,404 posts)So many more dots are connected now. And those connections will continue to grow. If we had functioning investigative journalists and a functioning justice department wed be further along, but our role as observers putting pressure on journalists and jurists cannot end.
ForeGoneLegsBirne
(17 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,310 posts)...our resurrection in the world by holding the investigations our own government won't. This isn't just about our nation, this is global. It is all going to be blown to smithereens and justice will be done. There is no stopping it now. The rats will abandon ship before you and I will know what is happening and their walls of secrecy will collapse.
usonian
(24,396 posts)I've been saying that the Trump-Epstein illicit sex, blackmail and money laundering operation was (and maybe still is) the biggest crime operation in all of history.
I left out state secrets because I don't have clearances, but those boxes in Trump's shithouse?
Someone just posted today that Epstein hid away his secrets all over. They showed receipts (credit card charges) for storage facilities other than the 18th hole at Trump's golf course.
kentuck
(115,331 posts)I agree with you.
And there is much more to that pardon that Trump gave to that drug dealer from Honduras, I believe?
It's a huge money-laundering operation also.
Hassler
(4,852 posts)Then the blackmail, money laundering, espionage, destabilizing governments...
Initech
(108,268 posts)I'm seriously wondering what Goldman-Sachs' connection is in all of this. They were Epstein's bank. They were the central financiers of this horrible syndicate.
Figarosmom
(11,084 posts)The big evil world wide cabal that wants to rule the world. By blackmail, purchase or inticement. Nothing good about them.
Warpy
(114,536 posts)First are his first two jobs, obvious cover jobs, the first provided by William Barr Sr, a former OSS spook. How a double college dropout was initally connected to the intelligence services is something I'd very much love to know. He was as unqualified as a prep school teacher as he was for his second job at Bear Stearns. However he was plugged in, he stayed that way long enough for them to run interference during his first conviction.
(Former prince) Andrew Windsor has been arrested for feeding Epstein classified material. He's most likely not alone and I doubt if he'd been arrested unless the Crown had masses of evidence. What we don't know is what Epstein did with it.
Epstein was well known to curry favor and gain access to the rich and powerf Once he'd gotten access, he set about finding out ul by doing favors for them, from money laundering to just letting them use one of his planes for honest or even lofty purposes. Once he'd gained access, he reportedly set about exploiting them.
Whispers for years have mentioned money laundering, blackmail, extortion, embezzlement, and just outright theft. It has long seemed to me that trafficking underage kids for sex was a sideline, his favorite hobby.
How much of this will we ever know? Not much, not for a very long time. Everyone who enabled him, funded him, used his services, got blackmailed, or was trafficked has to be safely dead before this shit really starts to come out.
I have little doubt that he was murdered in jail by people who didn't want him to talk about any of it, ever. I just wonder what took them so long.
patphil
(8,899 posts)It was one of the ways they used to compromise thousands of rich and powerful people from around the world and use the information they could get from them, or had on them to gain money, power, and control on a global scale.
It's like The High Table from the John Wick movies; a secret organization of elites that manages a vast criminal enterprise, and manipulates markets, banks, and governments everywhere.
Their goal is to destroy the idea of freedom.
It consists of a small ruling class, a large overseer class that runs day to day operations, and enforces the rules, and a huge lower class of expendable workers. This is all coming to fruition through the development of AI as an all seeing eye that puts absolute power in the hands of the ruling class. It also makes it possible to rule a world of far less people than are on it now.
If they have their way,eventually governments will only exist to do their bidding.
We only have a small window of time to call a halt to this. The biggest block to our success is the willingness of so many tens of millions of people to either let it happen, or actually help make it happen.
Fil1957
(640 posts)iemanja
(57,692 posts)womanofthehills
(10,845 posts)And Rep Melanie Stanberry mentioned probably also men at Zorro Ranch.
Jeffrey had a trap door on the Island that went right into the sea. And all the talk about jerky
iemanja
(57,692 posts)Just_Vote_Dem
(3,602 posts)Do you have a link for the trap door thing? That is so creepy...
H2O Man
(78,905 posts)HappyLarge
(85 posts)Until humans societies all agree that everyone is a person and not a thing to be stripped of value and left as garbage in the street, itll keep happening.
nilram
(3,525 posts)Our (semi) trusted law enforcement agencies are complicit, if not aiding and abetting.
hoosierspud
(226 posts)About eugenics and wanting to create a superior group of humans by impregnating women with his sperm. (Did Elon steal his idea?) Its been thought that the New Mexico ranch was a baby farm.
roamer65
(37,866 posts)Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
-Mario Puzo, Godfather. (Honore de Balzac)
I definitely agree and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Metaphorical
(2,612 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 24, 2026, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)
It was a massive intelligence conspiracy, with sex trafficking and drugs no doubt a part of it as well as selling of state secrets and it was no doubt how Trump was both able to keep others under control, and how others made sure that Trump remained at least somewhat under control. He is not the mastermind, though likely he is part of a cabal.
Here's the problem for him. Trump is now a liability. He's exposing the network due to his incompetence and increasing senility, and important people - not just those who were ensnared but also those who were involved - are increasingly coming under the spotlight. He's making mistakes and losing enough support that no amount of electoral shenanigans are going to keep the illusion that he has popular support - or that he actually won the election in 2024 that he likely lost (note, I have never believed that he legitimately won in 2024, not by the margins that he did).
Things are unravelling. We have a GOP Texas Congressman that is embroiled in a major sex scandal who may tip the House, Democrats are winning in by-elections that they've not done in decades, and the spotlight is now on elections at a very bad time for the GOP - and Trump. He doesn't have hold of the military, and ICE, while not neutered, has been dealt some serious blows.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)they'll be held accountable. They have too much power & money.
Irish_Dem
(80,613 posts)You hit the nail on the head TT.
Thanks for posting it!
IcyPeas
(25,247 posts)Bo Zarts
(26,285 posts)Ive been saying that for quite a while now.
GoCubsGo
(34,820 posts)They were laundering money, too. And, it likely all leads to Putin. It's getting more and more obvious.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,844 posts)I suspect there are some Illuminati believers who are laughing their asses off right this moment.
malaise
(294,819 posts)Rec