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OGBuzz

(197 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:43 AM 10 hrs ago

WTF is going on?

Mike Huckabee has suggested that Israel is justified in "taking" much of the Middle East on biblical grounds. Netanyahu has stated that he has dreamed of this war on Iran for 40 years. Israel has now launched an all out war on Lebanon and Lindsay Graham is even suggesting that the US should participate to avenge the marine barracks bombing in 1983 in which 241 marines were killed. And now they are talking about ground troops in Iran. It doesn't look like there's going to be an off-ramp to this man made catastrophe.

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WTF is going on? (Original Post) OGBuzz 10 hrs ago OP
This is the first I'd heard about Lebanon underpants 10 hrs ago #1
This is the Epstein war, pure and simple.His legacy will live in infamy. BComplex 9 hrs ago #16
Both Epstein and this war are symptoms of Trump's malignant narcissism MadameButterfly 8 hrs ago #22
And he accused democrats of stealing the 2020 election...more projection. BComplex 6 hrs ago #32
He'll do it again, but worse MadameButterfly 4 hrs ago #37
So true! He made it totally obvious last night during the Texas primaries. BComplex 3 hrs ago #40
Days quaint 5 hrs ago #34
Just having my first cup of coffee this morning livetohike 10 hrs ago #2
He doesnt believe any of it. He's only after johnnyfins 10 hrs ago #4
War Pigs. RIP Ozzie Osborne. Dr. T 10 hrs ago #5
Not more popular, but more spot on with the message WestMichRad 9 hrs ago #14
Well then women should take over the Middle East and restore precursor goddess worship GreenWave 10 hrs ago #3
Thank you so much for this fascinating article. I notice in the notes niyad 9 hrs ago #9
the U.S. also would be so much better off right now with a woman in the W.H. OGBuzz 9 hrs ago #10
Would depend on the woman. Years ago, it was said that the ultimate niyad 8 hrs ago #18
I would prefer Hillary or Kamala over the nightmare that's there now. OGBuzz 7 hrs ago #27
Well, of course we would. But the original blanket statement could niyad 7 hrs ago #30
Well, the UK got Margaret Thatcher DBoon 3 hrs ago #41
Yes, patriarchal societies have done (and still do) wnylib 8 hrs ago #24
Lindsey is sick. We killed at least 165 Iranian virgins and he Baitball Blogger 10 hrs ago #6
Graham is... GiqueCee 8 hrs ago #21
"virgins"?? What does the sexual status of any of the victims have niyad 5 hrs ago #33
I seriously don't understand your confusion. Baitball Blogger 4 hrs ago #38
;-{) Goonch 10 hrs ago #7
Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, and Donald Trump walk into a bar. ProudMNDemocrat 10 hrs ago #8
the broader Islamic world has been aware of Tetrachloride 9 hrs ago #11
Send more Billions to Israel so AIPAC can send more money to US politicians so NoMoreRepugs 9 hrs ago #12
Dig up Ronnie Reagan's carcass Submariner 9 hrs ago #13
History what history Easterncedar 9 hrs ago #15
I guarantee that a majority of MAGAs have no clue that Saint Ronny did this. progressoid 4 hrs ago #36
Did Israel ever own Persia? kentuck 8 hrs ago #17
The old Messiah was a Persian (Iranian) emperor. Isaiah 45:1 Ping Tung 8 hrs ago #19
Welcome to World War III KS Toronado 8 hrs ago #20
My guess is that Trump and Netanyahu made a deal months ago. democrank 8 hrs ago #23
This is what I've been thinking. Since when has Trump done anything that isn't about money/power. nt wiggs 7 hrs ago #26
I can't believe anyone is asking this Nigrum Cattus 7 hrs ago #25
They are desperately looking for a justification of this insanity. How about we focus on America? walkingman 7 hrs ago #28
Based on the Bible, they should lose Israel in war Johonny 7 hrs ago #29
Patriarchy is madness. This "we are the one and only true religion" lie has to be exposed as a lie. Clouds Passing 7 hrs ago #31
Ya Think Huckabee is in the Files? nt NEOH 5 hrs ago #35
Nah, I think Mike just wants to accelerate the End Times, like the rest of the Christian fundamentalists. OGBuzz 3 hrs ago #39

BComplex

(9,852 posts)
16. This is the Epstein war, pure and simple.His legacy will live in infamy.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 08:30 AM
9 hrs ago

It's just a self-replicating shit show.

MadameButterfly

(3,964 posts)
22. Both Epstein and this war are symptoms of Trump's malignant narcissism
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:19 AM
8 hrs ago

Psychiatrists predicted he would start wars. They didn't need to know the politics that would arise to excuse it. This is science. It's what malignant narcissists do.

Trump has been obsessed with war in Iran for decades. He predicted Obama would start a war with Iran to get re-elected. Then he said both Hilary and Kamala would start a war in Iran if elected. Everything is projection. This is how he tells us what he would do.

BComplex

(9,852 posts)
32. And he accused democrats of stealing the 2020 election...more projection.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 10:44 AM
6 hrs ago

So in retaliation to the argument in his own messed up brain, he stole the 2024 election with the help of Elon, russia and the billionaires from silicon valley putting their best hackers on it. He and elon both admitted to it.

MadameButterfly

(3,964 posts)
37. He'll do it again, but worse
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 01:22 PM
4 hrs ago

There isn't one thing he is accusing others of doing that he isn't getting ready to do

BComplex

(9,852 posts)
40. So true! He made it totally obvious last night during the Texas primaries.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 01:49 PM
3 hrs ago

ONLY the democrats primaries were affected last night.

livetohike

(24,193 posts)
2. Just having my first cup of coffee this morning
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:03 AM
10 hrs ago

and WTF are the War Pigs up to now? Huckabee should suit up and join his fantasy end times war.

niyad

(131,530 posts)
9. Thank you so much for this fascinating article. I notice in the notes
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:33 AM
9 hrs ago

that they referenced a number of authors who sit on my own shelves. One that was not referenced is "The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering The Religion Of The Earth" by Barbara Mor and Monica Sjoo.

Would you consider cross-posting this in Women's Rights And Issues, especially as this is Women's Herstory Month? Thanks in advance.

niyad

(131,530 posts)
18. Would depend on the woman. Years ago, it was said that the ultimate
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 08:50 AM
8 hrs ago

feminist nightmare would be that we finally had a woman president and vp. . only they would be phyllis schlafly and anita bryant (told you it was years ago!).

niyad

(131,530 posts)
30. Well, of course we would. But the original blanket statement could
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 10:07 AM
7 hrs ago

have included some real nigtmares.

wnylib

(25,638 posts)
24. Yes, patriarchal societies have done (and still do)
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:28 AM
8 hrs ago

a lot of harm to women.

To put goddess worship in perspective, though, goddess worship does not always mean beneficial or benign social norms.

Ancient societies with fertility goddesses flourished all around the Mediterranean in agricultural societies. The fertility ceremonies included human sacrifices and in some cases, eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the sacrificial victims, as well as ceremonial sprinkling of the blood on fields to ensure crop fertility.

Roman and Greek societies had pantheons of both gods and goddesses but women had limited rights. India has goddesses as well well as gods, but women experience practices like child marriage and honor killings for "inappropriate" behavior. Rape is a serious problem in India.

Having goddess worship does not ensure a safe, egalitarian environment for women.

Christianity insists that, as a monotheistic religion, it does not worship Mary, mother of Jesus, as a goddess. Yet, she is depicted as the Queen of Heaven who miraculously mated with God to produce a divine son, and remained a perpetual virgin capable of intercession with her divine son on behalf of human beings. Her obedience to God, and to the divine purpose of childbirth are held in high esteem as examples of virtuous behavior for women. So having a "nearly divine" woman in Christianity still produced patriarchal societies.

Aa a woman, I am fully in support of equal rights. As an American and a Dem, I fully support the right of religious freedom to follow one's beliefs, or to have none. But, as someone who minored in anthropology, I also know that goddess worship is not always beneficial to women and society.




Baitball Blogger

(52,103 posts)
6. Lindsey is sick. We killed at least 165 Iranian virgins and he
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:20 AM
10 hrs ago

still wants more. Sick, sick, sick.

GiqueCee

(3,860 posts)
21. Graham is...
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:13 AM
8 hrs ago

... lower than snake shit in a tire track, and comes in a distant second to slime mold on the scale that measures value to humanity.
It should also be noted that the Mossad knew about the '83 attack on the Marines in advance, but said nothing, other than it wasn't their job to baby-sit the Americans.

niyad

(131,530 posts)
33. "virgins"?? What does the sexual status of any of the victims have
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 11:38 AM
5 hrs ago

to do with anything?

Baitball Blogger

(52,103 posts)
38. I seriously don't understand your confusion.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 01:26 PM
4 hrs ago

There are several reasons why that word is appropriate. First, it was a girl's school. And very young girls. The school was even described as a Kindergarten school. To emphasize that fact, virgens suggests innocence in its purest form.

Also the word should hit between the eyes of even white conservative men, since they can relate to the loss since the feeling of paternal protection is the strongest with their daughters.

And do you think I'm slighting boys? Well, I don't think the impact would be felt as strong with the white conservatives who will quickly rationalize the loss if it was young boys, since they grow up to be soldiers. That's how they would see it.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,802 posts)
8. Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, and Donald Trump walk into a bar.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:31 AM
10 hrs ago

I guess you know the rest of the story and it does not end well.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,958 posts)
12. Send more Billions to Israel so AIPAC can send more money to US politicians so
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:48 AM
9 hrs ago

they can authorize more BILLIONS to Israel.

Submariner

(13,332 posts)
13. Dig up Ronnie Reagan's carcass
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:54 AM
9 hrs ago

if Graham want's to avenge the 241 Marines and Sailors killed in Lebanon, and burn Reagan's remains.

Raygun was responsible for ordering that the Marines carry unloaded weapons without access to ammunition, so when the truck bomber was bearing down on the building housing the guards on watch had no weapons to stop the truck.

And the Grenada wag the dog invasion was kicked off 3 days later.

Ping Tung

(4,349 posts)
19. The old Messiah was a Persian (Iranian) emperor. Isaiah 45:1
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 08:55 AM
8 hrs ago
Cyrus the Great, founder of the Achaemenid Persian Empire, is uniquely identified in the Bible (Isaiah 45:1) as a "messiah" or "anointed one" of Yahweh. As a non-Jewish ruler, he was honored for conquering Babylon in 539 BC and issuing a decree allowing the Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild their Temple.

KS Toronado

(23,668 posts)
20. Welcome to World War III
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:02 AM
8 hrs ago

Exactly where this is headed unless R Congress Critters suddenly grow a backbone.

democrank

(12,496 posts)
23. My guess is that Trump and Netanyahu made a deal months ago.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:23 AM
8 hrs ago

Netanyahu gets assistance bombing Iran and Trump gets a sweet real estate deal in Gaza.

wiggs

(8,762 posts)
26. This is what I've been thinking. Since when has Trump done anything that isn't about money/power. nt
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:54 AM
7 hrs ago

Nigrum Cattus

(1,273 posts)
25. I can't believe anyone is asking this
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:49 AM
7 hrs ago

This 100% project 2025
They wrote it down
White "christian" nationalists
Project 2025 claimed the Iran nuclear deal gave Iran “a crucial monetary lifeline.” “Unfortunately,
the Obama and Biden Administrations have propped up the brutal Islamist theocracy that has hurt the
Iranian people and threatened nuclear war. For example, the Obama Administration’s 2015 Joint
Comprehensive Plan of Action, commonly referred to as the Iran nuclear deal, gave the Islamic regime a
crucial monetary lifeline after the Green Movement protests in 2009, which, while ultimately unsuccessful,
did succeed in weakening the regime and showing the world that younger Iranians want freedom.”
[Department of State, Project 2025, accessed 6/24/24]
Project 2025 argued it was in the U.S.’s and the Iranian people’s best interest to have a democratic
government, and the U.S. could use economic and diplomatic tools to help Iran become free. “The
next Administration should neither preserve nor repeat the mistakes of the Obama and Biden
Administrations. The correct future policy for Iran is one that acknowledges that it is in U.S. national
security interests, the Iranian people’s human rights interests, and a broader global interest in peace and
stability for the Iranian people to have the democratic government they demand. This decision to be free
of the country’s abusive leaders must of course be made by the Iranian people, but the United States can
utilize its own and others’ economic and diplomatic tools to ease the path toward a free Iran and a
renewed relationship with the Iranian people.” [Department of State, Project 2025, accessed 6/24/24]
Project 2025 called for broadly blocking “Iranian ambitions” which includes expanding Trump
administration-imposed sanctions. “l First, the U.S. must prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear
technology and delivery capabilities and more broadly block Iranian ambitions. This means, inter alia,
reinstituting and expanding Trump Administration sanctions; providing security assistance for regional
partners; supporting, through public diplomacy and otherwise, freedom-seeking Iranian people in their
revolt against the mullahs; and ensuring Israel has both the military means and the political support and
flexibility to take what it deems to be appropriate measures to defend itself against the Iranian regime and
its regional proxies Hamas, Hezbollah, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.” [Department of State, Project
2025, accessed 6/24/24]
Venezuela
Project

walkingman

(10,681 posts)
28. They are desperately looking for a justification of this insanity. How about we focus on America?
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:57 AM
7 hrs ago

Johonny

(25,968 posts)
29. Based on the Bible, they should lose Israel in war
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:59 AM
7 hrs ago

And spend forever complaining about it. Or does he have a different version of the Bible?

Clouds Passing

(7,773 posts)
31. Patriarchy is madness. This "we are the one and only true religion" lie has to be exposed as a lie.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 10:11 AM
7 hrs ago

OGBuzz

(197 posts)
39. Nah, I think Mike just wants to accelerate the End Times, like the rest of the Christian fundamentalists.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 01:39 PM
3 hrs ago
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