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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNetanyahu wants USA nuclear weapons used against Iran.
Will Bibi convince trDUMP/Kegsbreath to play along with that idea ?
India media interviews Professor Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia University to discuss this issue
FakeNoose
(41,597 posts)
bluestarone
(22,158 posts)Expect anything.
hlthe2b
(113,916 posts)policies--all of his policies-- to be support for Israel and its future. And conversely, a lack of support conflated to mean anti-Zionism and even antisemitism.
Israel will suffer a horrific future (and no, I'm not talking about biblical Armageddon though there are many that WANT to make that come about) if we are pulled into a nuclear conflict. I think it is hard to argue we are not teetering on WWIII with all throughout the Middle East already drawn in.
Netanyahu is a monster because his acts are intentional. Trump is a disastrous and deadly narcissist, close to total meltdown given his progressive dementia and thus an absolute target for manipulation by Netanyahu, Putin, and others. His acts may be intentional, but they are not considered, but rather under manipulative influence or impulse.
If something doesn't change soon, we are F...ked.
Jedi Guy
(3,473 posts)That assertion is just a teensy bit hyperbolic, in my opinion. I think it's pretty easy to argue that we're not teetering on the verge of WWIII.
Iran isn't comparable to any of the Axis countries in any meaningful sense. They don't have the military power of Germany, Italy, or Japan. They don't have the backing of any other nations (Hezbollah and the Houthis don't count) who are willing to rush to their aid and dive into the fray to help them. No other nation has even talked about sanctions against the US or Israel, as far as I know.
Iran is fairly friendly with Russia, China, and to a lesser extent North Korea. None of them are about to stick their necks out for the Iranians, though. Russia is bogged down in Ukraine; China doesn't give a shit about Iran and if they're going to come to blows with the US it'll be over Taiwan, not Iran; the Norks have trouble feeding their own people from one year to the next. None of the three can project force into the theater of operations anyway. At best they can supply Iran with drones and munitions but that's about the extent of it.
Apart from the aforementioned Hezbollah and Houthis, no one else in the region even likes Iran. The Sunni-Shia divide runs deep. Iran has been kind of a shitty neighbor so none of the other countries in the region want to see them realize their ambitions. They're more than content to provide indirect support and watch the US pound on Iran.
It's a regional war with wide-ranging economic effects due to the quirk of geography that is the Strait of Hormuz. That's all it is. The prelude to World War III, not so much.
hlthe2b
(113,916 posts)I spent much of my working life in the Middle East including those Israel is continuing to bomb and the bases we have throughout. When the oil is shut off throughout the world, as well as helium, other invaluable minerals and byproducts, including fertilizer- and a good part of the world is facing starvation, your naivete' may be tested.
That you post that I am hyperbolic in a thread where Netanyahu is trying to get the US to go nuclear... wow. No wonder we have Trump in the White House and all that is happening today. "It can't happen here," right.
Jedi Guy
(3,473 posts)There are other sources of oil besides the Middle East. Helium not so much, sure, but again, the rest of the world isn't lining up to jump in and help Iran. If the rest of the world gets involved at all it will be an attempt to negotiate a ceasefire, I expect. That's already happening.
Bibi can push for us to use nukes all he wants. That doesn't mean it will happen and it doesn't address any of the points I made.
Lastly, it's pretty rude to label someone as naive just because they don't immediately agree with your opinions. But I suppose that goes back to you seeming to take it very personally when someone has the temerity to disagree with you. On a discussion board, no less. What was I thinking?
hlthe2b
(113,916 posts)That's why Trump is in the damned WH and now empowers Netanyahu to threaten much of the ME with NUKES.
This is real world. Not your video games, Jedi Guy. INFORM YOURSELF!
Renew Deal
(85,120 posts)Exp
(946 posts)RainCaster
(13,695 posts)That cheap bastard, expecting us to pay for the nukes, deliver them and then take the blame.
FUCK YOU BIBI!
Do it yourself.
Bread and Circuses
(2,031 posts)lamp_shade
(15,478 posts)Doodley
(11,891 posts)The narcissist can accept humiliation. Will he do that? Or will he go ahead, egged on by other lunatics, to save face?
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,021 posts)dickthegrouch
(4,513 posts)As in the movie "Dr No."
johnnyfins
(3,758 posts)Justice matters.
(9,777 posts)Kill them all. That will "Liberate" them from the oppressive regime... right?
ChicagoTeamster
(945 posts)SunImp
(2,704 posts)If he actually does go on with it Democrats will be looking at landslide victories for a long time