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https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB435/"Washington, D.C., August 19, 2013 Marking the sixtieth anniversary of the overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq, the National Security Archive is today posting recently declassified CIA documents on the United States' role in the controversial operation. American and British involvement in Mosaddeq's ouster has long been public knowledge, but today's posting includes what is believed to be the CIA's first formal acknowledgement that the agency helped to plan and execute the coup.
.... Also, the public release of these materials is noteworthy because CIA documents about 1953 are rare. First of all, agency officials have stated that most of the records on the coup were either lost or destroyed in the early 1960s, allegedly because the record-holders' "safes were too full."[2]
Regarding public access to any remaining files (reportedly about one cubic foot of material), the intelligence community's standard procedure for decades has been to assert a blanket denial. This is in spite of commitments made two decades ago by three separate CIA directors. Robert M. Gates, R. James Woolsey, and John M. Deutch each vowed to open up agency historical files on a number of Cold War-era covert operations, including Iran, as a sign of the CIA's purported new policy of openness after the collapse of the USSR in 1991.[3]
....But all 21 of the CIA items posted today (in addition to 14 previously unpublished British documents see Sidebar), reinforce the conclusion that the United States, and the CIA in particular, devoted extensive resources and high-level policy attention toward bringing about Mosaddeq's overthrow, and smoothing over the aftermath."
UpInArms
(55,604 posts)Evil people
cliffside
(1,852 posts)Meet 'The Brothers' Who Shaped U.S. Policy, Inside And Out
Fresh Air | By NPR Staff
Published October 16, 2013 at 12:33 PM EDT
https://www.wunc.org/2013-10-16/meet-the-brothers-who-shaped-u-s-policy-inside-and-out
"In 1953, for the first and only time in history, two brothers were appointed to head the overt and covert sides of American foreign policy. President Dwight Eisenhower appointed John Foster Dulles secretary of state, and Allen Dulles director of the CIA.
Journalist Stephen Kinzer says the Dulles brothers shaped America's standoff with the Soviet Union, led the U.S. into war in Vietnam, and helped topple governments they thought unfriendly to American interests in Guatemala, Iran, the Congo and Indonesia. In his new book, The Brothers, Kinzer says the Dulles' actions "helped set off some of the world's most profound long-term crises."
John Dulles died in 1959. President Kennedy replaced Allen Dulles after the covert operation he recommended to overthrow Fidel Castro in Cuba ended disastrously in the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion.
Kinzer tells Fresh Air's Terry Gross that the Dulles' shared background and ideology played out in their policy decisions: "They had this view of the world that was implanted in them from a very young age," Kinzer says. "That there's good and evil, and it's the obligation of the good people to go out into the world and destroy the evil ones."
The 1953 US-Led Coup in Iran
The Dulles Brothers back at it... again
https://skippedhistory.substack.com/p/the-1953-us-led-coup-in-iran
".... To understand Mossadeghs ouster, lets first chat about some other patriciansthe British! whose empire peaked 40 years earlier. In 1913, close to a quarter of the worlds population lived under the Union Jack, and one of the empires crown jewels was Iran, which Winston Churchill called a prize from fairyland beyond our wildest dreams. Why did Churchill describe Iran like The Rock describes GNC? Well, Churchill lived on an island whose chief source of fuel was oil. And Iran not only had oil but thanks to a series of deals that Britain imposed on Iran dating back to 1907 it, magically, also had oil that Britain controlled!
This was the imperial context in which a young Mohammad Mossadegh grew up. At turns theatrical, intimidating, and patriotic, he entered the Irani Parliament in 1924Iran had a constitutional monarchy. There, he became Britains most vocal critic, declaring, The Iranian is the best person to manage his home. Mossadegh also became a vocal critic of Mohammad Reza Shah, Irans monarch, or just the Shah for short, who was so detested in Iran for his coziness with the British that he narrowly escaped an assassination attempt. Of note, the Shah was also close with Allen, who when still working as a lawyer in 1949 secured the Shahs support of a $5 billion construction deal with a client of Allens. Although the Shah assured Allen and OCI that the Iranian people were eager to welcome American capital, his statement proved almost as wrong as Wolf Blitzer on Celebrity Jeopardy, and Mossadeghs political party killed the deal with Allens client. The following year, 1951, Mossadegh became Irans new Prime Minister and with unanimous consent from parliament nationalized the countrys oil industry.
.... But now there was a new empire in town. As planned, Allens pal the Shah consolidated his power and split Irans oil profits with an international consortium that included the British and a handful of companies in the US. The Shah also spent billions of dollars on US weaponry, and over the ensuing 25 years became a dictator who crushed dissent by any means necessary, including employing torture techniques honed by the CIA. The extreme repression of his regime led Iranians to further detest him, which led to his overthrow during the Iranian Revolution in 1979, which led to the Iran Hostage Crisis, which led to the sour state of US-Iranian relations that has persisted ever since. And as one Iranian scholar mused in 2002, It is a reasonable argument that but for the coup Iran would now be a mature democracy.
multigraincracker
(38,289 posts)American were involved in it too.
cliffside
(1,852 posts)I remember reading years ago as we were attacking Iraq that China was acquiring the rights to rare earth minerals in other countries.
Just a quick search of "china buying up rare earth minerals"
"AI Overview China completely dominates the global rare-earth minerals supply chain, controlling an estimated 60% of worldwide mining and over 90% of refined output and magnet production. By utilizing state subsidies, overseas asset acquisitions, and specialized academic ecosystems, China has created an unassailable chokehold over materials essential for consumer electronics, electric vehicles, and defense manufacturing."
https://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/iranprimer.html
".... BRITAIN WAS AT THAT MOMENT FACING A GRAVE CHALLENGE. ITS ABILITY TO project military power, fuel its industries, and give its citizens a high standard of living depended largely on the oil it extracted from Iran. Since 1901 a single corporation, the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, principally owned by the British government, had held a monopoly on the extraction, refining, and sale of Iranian oil. Anglo-Iranian's grossly unequal contract, negotiated with a corrupt monarch, required it to pay Iran just 16 percent of the money it earned from selling the country's oil. It probably paid even less than that, but the truth was never known, since no outsider was permitted to audit its books. Anglo-Iranian made more profit in 1950 alone than it had paid Iran in royalties over the previous half century.
... Mossadegh, a European-educated aristocrat who was sixty-nine years old when he came to power, believed passionately in two causes: nationalism and democracy. In Iran, nationalism meant taking control of the country's oil resources. Democracy meant concentrating political power in the elected parliament and prime minister, rather than in the monarch, Mohammad Reza Shah. With the former project, Mossadegh turned Britain into an enemy, and with the latter he alienated the shah.
In the spring of 1951, both houses of the Iranian parliament voted unanimously to nationalize the oil industry. It was an epochal moment, and the entire nation celebrated. "All of Iran's misery, wretchedness, lawlessness and corruption over the last fifty years has been caused by oil and the extortions of the oil company," one radio commentator declared.
Under the nationalization law, Iran agreed to compensate Britain for the money it had spent building its wells and refinery, although any impartial arbitrator would probably have concluded that given the amount of profit the British had made in Iran over the years, Iran's debt would be less than nil. Mossadegh loved to point out that the British had themselves recently nationalized their coal and steel industries. He insisted that he was only trying to do what the British had done: turn their nation's wealth to its own benefit, and make reforms in order to prevent people from resorting to revolution. British diplomats in the Middle East were, of course, unmoved by this argument..."
H2O Man
(79,454 posts)Thank you.
cliffside
(1,852 posts)H2O Man
(79,454 posts)that people know accurate history. And it would be impossible to fully grasp the impact that the US installing the shah on Iranian culture today without the information that you have provided here. Your post is DU at its very best.
cliffside
(1,852 posts)for your lovely message. I've learned so much from you and other posters at DU over the years, we all do what we can.
Wishing you a very Happy Father's Day
malaise
(299,419 posts)US media as well
DFW
(60,731 posts)Youd think that all of these educated statesmen would have remembered what happened in Central Europe after the Treaty of Versailles in 1919. It is not enough to defeat a foe. It must be ensured that nothing worse takes his place. Less than 20 years after disposing of Kaiser Wilhelm II, Germany had Hitler. Less than 30 years after deposing Mossadegh, Iran had the Ayatollahs. The two are not exact parallels, but still: cause and effect.
Its not very smart to poison a well if you will some day need to drink from it.
malaise
(299,419 posts)We have a winner.
Great OP
cliffside
(1,852 posts)Kaleva
(40,474 posts)Kid Berwyn
(25,441 posts)
CIA publicly acknowledges 1953 coup it backed in Iran was undemocratic as it revisits Argo rescue
by James Gambrell
Associated Press (AP), October 12, 2023
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) While revealing new details about one of the most famed CIA operations of all times the spiriting out of six American diplomats who escaped the 1979 U.S. Embassy seizure in Iran the intelligence agency for the first time has acknowledged something else as well.
The CIA now officially describes the 1953 coup it backed in Iran that overthrew its prime minister and cemented the rule of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi as undemocratic.
Other American officials have made similar remarks in the past, but the CIAs acknowledgment in a podcast about the agencys history comes as much of its official history of the coup remains classified 70 years after the putsch. That complicates the publics understanding of an event that still resonates, as tensions remain high between Tehran and Washington over the Islamic Republics rapidly advancing nuclear program, its aiding of militia groups across the Mideast and as it cracks down on dissent.
The CIAs leadership is committed to being as open with the public as possible, the agency said in a statement responding to questions from The Associated Press. The agencys podcast is part of that effort and we knew that if we wanted to tell this incredible story, it was important to be transparent about the historical context surrounding these events, and CIAs role in it.
Continues...
https://apnews.com/article/iran-1953-coup-cia-218323db3cc1aca6bde1e54827527e8d
Didn't see this story at all when first published in 2023 -- and havent seen the real history or the National Security Archive at George Washington University mentioned much at all since until today. Thank you, cliffside!
malaise
(299,419 posts)Yet folks bullshit their way around it.
Kid Berwyn
(25,441 posts)Its magical, almost, how fast mineral extraction prints money. And thanks to colonialism and modern law, the money skips the true owners and goes straight into the pockets of the thieves.
malaise
(299,419 posts)Rec
cliffside
(1,852 posts)H2O Man
(79,454 posts)Oh, thank you! I had said the OP represents the best of DU, involving essential content including the content of the conversations in the thread. And your post is a prime example.
Knowing the actual history actually makes the war seem even more tragic. It doesn't translate to favoring one side or the other -- kind of the opposite, you don't want anyone to "lose" by way of death, injury, and destruction. You are thinking of the psychological damage this causes for little children, who are the upcoming generation.
Kid Berwyn
(25,441 posts)You, one who understands how hatred and violence destroy souls and communities, understand that only love can build a true and just future and nation. We may grow hoarse shouting it over and over, but we will never lose our humanity or kinship.
cliffside
(1,852 posts)MineralMan
(151,969 posts)Too long. It never works out well. You'd think we'd learn. But, we don't. Ever.