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senseandsensibility

(25,960 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:58 PM 3 hrs ago

It seems to me that trump is setting up JD and not even trying to hide it

As usual he telegraphs his intentions and he did that recently by explicitly saying that he would blame JD if the talks went badly. Now, on the day that the VP arrived for high level talks with Iran, trump takes to "lies social" and makes explicit threats against Iran leadership just as the talks are about to start.

The predictable result? According to MSNOW, the Iranians would not pose for a picture with JD and are delaying the start of the negotiations. JD is left standing there because his boss could not stop making threats even for the duration of the negotiations.

Trump, IMO is setting up his own VP to fail. Is JD too stupid to know this or too stupid to know what to do about it or both?

Rubio seems to be smart enough to try to melt into the furniture whenever he is forced to make an appearance. The dysfunction and chaos is not new. But the self-sabotage and infighting will sink this "deal", as bad as it is.

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It seems to me that trump is setting up JD and not even trying to hide it (Original Post) senseandsensibility 3 hrs ago OP
I once worked for a man who was an alcoholic UpInArms 3 hrs ago #1
You obviously had self respect. senseandsensibility 3 hrs ago #3
Their behavior as Trump's cuckolds is disqualifying PJMcK 54 min ago #13
All true, these t-rump lackeys are just a pack of morons, letting t-rump embarrass them over and over again... wcmagumba 3 hrs ago #2
I've been saying the same, so of course 100% agree AZJonnie 3 hrs ago #4
They are protecting Rubio. I've been calling him the Crown applegrove 3 hrs ago #5
The evidence I can see for myself senseandsensibility 1 hr ago #9
Thank you in ad-Vance, sir Blue Owl 3 hrs ago #6
Jesus, I needed a warning for that face. Xavier Breath 1 hr ago #10
Sorry! Blue Owl 1 hr ago #11
Bullies need people to see that they are bullying. They feed off of the power trip. Midnight Writer 2 hrs ago #7
Does Trump respect Vance?... Norrrm 2 hrs ago #8
Ah. Who will the oligarchy choose orthoclad 1 hr ago #12

UpInArms

(55,604 posts)
1. I once worked for a man who was an alcoholic
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:01 PM
3 hrs ago

And every time I got all the people working smoothly and all the projects doing well, he would go out on the properties and start screaming at all the workers

Needless to say, I left that monstrous job

senseandsensibility

(25,960 posts)
3. You obviously had self respect.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:03 PM
3 hrs ago

I guess JD and Rubio have none or they would have resigned already.

PJMcK

(25,209 posts)
13. Their behavior as Trump's cuckolds is disqualifying
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:54 PM
54 min ago

Neither of them is presidential material and neither is Trump. This administration is unserious about governing. It's only about the power and the grifting.

Rubio and Vance are used trash. Throw them out.

wcmagumba

(6,916 posts)
2. All true, these t-rump lackeys are just a pack of morons, letting t-rump embarrass them over and over again...
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:03 PM
3 hrs ago

This behavior is not getting them elected to anything, ever.

AZJonnie

(4,187 posts)
4. I've been saying the same, so of course 100% agree
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:06 PM
3 hrs ago

Couldn't be more obvious.

Also, Witkoff, Jared, and Bibi. This angle plays well with his base, for obvious reasons.

senseandsensibility

(25,960 posts)
9. The evidence I can see for myself
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:25 PM
1 hr ago

supports your theory. Rubio is being protected and is smart enough to try to protect himself.

Blue Owl

(59,994 posts)
11. Sorry!
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:31 PM
1 hr ago

But I get a lot of satisfaction posting it because I’ve heard how much JD hates that image….

Midnight Writer

(25,967 posts)
7. Bullies need people to see that they are bullying. They feed off of the power trip.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:55 PM
2 hrs ago

Bullies don't bully because they are tough guys. Bullies bully to convince themselves and others that they really are tough guys.

Bullying someone secretly is not enough for them. They have to bully flagrantly for it to be satisfying for them.

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