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Amaryllis

(11,538 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:06 PM 3 hrs ago

I remember reading a few months back that the Iranians had said Trump needs to quit sending his real estate golf buddies

who know nothing about the subject and and send some people who know what they are talking about to negotiate. I don't remember where i read it, but I do remember clearly "real estate golf buddies." It occurred to me that sending people who are so obviously highly inept is a major insult to the Iranians and would be perceived as highly disrespectful, as it was.
Contrast with Obama....

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I remember reading a few months back that the Iranians had said Trump needs to quit sending his real estate golf buddies (Original Post) Amaryllis 3 hrs ago OP
I said before, they send PHDs with years of experience, we send clowns. dem4decades 3 hrs ago #1
I think it's because the deal is just a prop for Trumpco. ananda 3 hrs ago #6
you're giving them too much credit RockCreek 47 min ago #20
"... they get off on war and killing" Seinan Sensei 23 min ago #23
It'd be great if any of the fucking MSM would harp on the incompetence of those RockRaven 3 hrs ago #2
We are also sending Jewish men to negotiate with fundamentalist Muslims. Midnight Writer 3 hrs ago #3
What exactly is the son in laws post? malaise 3 hrs ago #5
Special Peace Envoy bsiebs 42 min ago #21
More like ...ahem... malaise 40 min ago #22
It's not just the Iranians who object to being in the same room as Kushner....I think the Albanians probably feel the Amaryllis 1 hr ago #10
Another crime family orthoclad 1 hr ago #15
Is it his Judaism or his Zionism? orthoclad 1 hr ago #16
Neither. It's his sense of entitlement. Amaryllis 9 min ago #24
Well JD Vance is handling the negotiations now, and he was there two weeks ago also FakeNoose 1 hr ago #19
There was a report of Iranian negotiator frustration over having to repeatedly explain basic processes... pat_k 3 hrs ago #4
I remember that as well and I think that was where I read the real estate golf buddies comment. I remember the Amaryllis 1 hr ago #9
Moronic stand-ins for Bibi orthoclad 1 hr ago #17
It could well be . . . AverageOldGuy 2 hrs ago #7
Well, if they're crooks, maybe orthoclad 1 hr ago #18
"people who know what they are talking about" were fired for not being MAGA enough IronLionZion 2 hrs ago #8
I am just being realistic when I say that sending in two Jewish men OGBuzz 1 hr ago #11
Trump really believed it's nothing more than a real estate deal. Iggo 1 hr ago #12
He could send the best negotiators in the history of the world, and it's not going to open the strait if Israel doesn't Fil1957 1 hr ago #13
Trump is an idiot PJMcK 1 hr ago #14

ananda

(35,755 posts)
6. I think it's because the deal is just a prop for Trumpco.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:47 PM
3 hrs ago

All they are doing is an attempt to create an excuse
to stay in power.

Since they get off on war and killing, it's a win win
for them, even if it means lose lose on the negotiation'
front.

RockCreek

(1,616 posts)
20. you're giving them too much credit
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 06:01 PM
47 min ago

All that. And they don't see any problem with Kushner et al.

RockRaven

(20,030 posts)
2. It'd be great if any of the fucking MSM would harp on the incompetence of those
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:31 PM
3 hrs ago

delegated to the task. It is acknowledged at times, but insufficiently in conjunction with the recurrent (and predictable for that reason) failures.

Midnight Writer

(25,967 posts)
3. We are also sending Jewish men to negotiate with fundamentalist Muslims.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:31 PM
3 hrs ago

It has been reported that Iranian negotiators object to being in the same room with Jared.

Add in the threats and the willy-nilly demands of our Commander-in-Chief.

You couldn't fuck this up worse if you tried.

Amaryllis

(11,538 posts)
10. It's not just the Iranians who object to being in the same room as Kushner....I think the Albanians probably feel the
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 04:56 PM
1 hr ago

same.

FakeNoose

(42,928 posts)
19. Well JD Vance is handling the negotiations now, and he was there two weeks ago also
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:42 PM
1 hr ago

I think Jared was shown the door, or maybe he decided he wasn't the right guy to handle it, I don't know.

pat_k

(14,476 posts)
4. There was a report of Iranian negotiator frustration over having to repeatedly explain basic processes...
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:36 PM
3 hrs ago

...of enrichment and the differences between enriching to medical grade and weapons grade and the fact that Witkoff and Kushner were seemingly unaware that the JCPOA allowed enriching to 20% (medical grade) for good reason. And were also seemingly oblivious to other technical basics critical to any negotiation.

I think it was an Al Jazeera report, but am not sure. It was around the same time I heard the "golf buddies" comment reported.

Amaryllis

(11,538 posts)
9. I remember that as well and I think that was where I read the real estate golf buddies comment. I remember the
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 04:53 PM
1 hr ago

frustration over the American negotiators not understanding basics. And it probably was Al Jazeera where I read it. Not the kind of thing you'd expect from American media.

orthoclad

(5,021 posts)
17. Moronic stand-ins for Bibi
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:30 PM
1 hr ago

No official standing with US govt, unless you count Ivanka as govt.

Country club locker room talk vs physicists. No experience required.

orthoclad

(5,021 posts)
18. Well, if they're crooks, maybe
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:32 PM
1 hr ago

Even crime takes SOME expertise, besides hiring Capone-class accountants.

OGBuzz

(832 posts)
11. I am just being realistic when I say that sending in two Jewish men
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:03 PM
1 hr ago

to negotiate with Iran, Israel's mortal enemy, was probably not the smartest idea. Never mind that Netanyahu once slept in Jared Kuschner's childhood bedroom in the 90's when he visited the U.S.

Fil1957

(961 posts)
13. He could send the best negotiators in the history of the world, and it's not going to open the strait if Israel doesn't
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:21 PM
1 hr ago

stop bombing Lebanon.

The only way to get Israel to stop is to threaten to cut off U.S. arms shipments, and to follow through on that threat if they keep bombing.

PJMcK

(25,209 posts)
14. Trump is an idiot
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:23 PM
1 hr ago

He knows nothing of negotiating strategy, mideast history & politics, science & technology nor geography. His flunkies are equally incompetent, incurious and ignorant. They do not know anything about the issues. How could they since they don't have the background and knowledge required for such complex discussions?

Sending two Jews to "negotiate" with Muslims demonstrates rudeness, religious ignorance and unserious intentions. The Iranians are justified in their disgust with Trump & Co.

Trump lost his war so it's pretty rich that he is trying to set terms. Pathetic.

Trump is a loser.

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