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question everything

(52,749 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 12:12 AM Yesterday

If you object to daylight time year around, and please read the finding how unhealthy it is

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2025/November/PDF/permanent-standard-time-health-benefits-pdf.pdf

Research Shows Permanent Standard Time Is Healthier
Than Daylight Saving Time

Please let your rep know.

When Florida Scott suggested it he said that he “heard from his constituents.” Might be OK for Floridians but not for many of us in the north when sunrise will be at 9:00 am at the dead of winter. Also our summers are hot - expecting mid 90s this week - so many prefer to have their chores early in the morning. And having more daylight in the morning than sunset after 9:00.

(If you do support daylight saving year around please ignore this post.)
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If you object to daylight time year around, and please read the finding how unhealthy it is (Original Post) question everything Yesterday OP
Here in AZ, we don't do daylight savings. Coventina Yesterday #1
I am jealous. Perhaps Minnesota can follow though. question everything Yesterday #2
AZ is in the middle of a zone FHRRK1 Yesterday #10
They need to pick one and leave it, end the switching of clocks sarisataka Yesterday #3
No, that doesn't make any sense Blues Heron Yesterday #7
The hours of sunlight on a given day is fixed sarisataka Yesterday #8
THANK YOU Skittles 23 hrs ago #12
I agree. Do people not ever across into a different time zone... 3catwoman3 8 hrs ago #31
honestly Skittles 6 hrs ago #34
People fly all the time and don''t get traumatized by a time change of an hour. pnwmom 23 hrs ago #14
I am on the extreme sarisataka 23 hrs ago #18
What's wrong with changing the clocks a couple times a year? We in Seattle don't need pnwmom 22 hrs ago #19
Speak for yourself. hunter 7 hrs ago #32
In December here the dawn is almost 8 am. We don't need darkness to continue to almost 9 am. nt pnwmom 6 hrs ago #36
I've got some ideas about a more natural time system. hunter 4 hrs ago #37
Mexico and Canada will have fits. LeftInTX Yesterday #4
I read that states could opt out of permanent daylight savings time dweller Yesterday #5
Thanks. Will contact Klobuchar, our next governor question everything Yesterday #6
These people act like we don't have any light but the sun Wifes husband Yesterday #9
Why? Don't you ever fly from east to west or the reverse? What's the big deal pnwmom 22 hrs ago #20
Changing a wrist watch is one thing Wifes husband 22 hrs ago #22
This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom 21 hrs ago #23
If Mercola says it... dpibel Yesterday #11
Yeah... progressoid 23 hrs ago #15
The American Academy of Sleep Medicine question everything 10 hrs ago #25
I don't mind the time changes, which are no worse than taking an airplane flight pnwmom 23 hrs ago #13
Neither daylight savings time or standard time have any magical properties ToxMarz 23 hrs ago #16
You might want to find another source. Mercola is a quack website. progressoid 23 hrs ago #17
ewwwww Stacey Grove 22 hrs ago #21
How about the American Academy of Sleep Medicine? question everything 10 hrs ago #24
A 'farts field', I'd call it... (nt) GJGCA 10 hrs ago #27
I'm sitting here snorting thru my nose. 3catwoman3 8 hrs ago #30
Daylight Saving Time is an artifical construct that should be abolished LogDog75 10 hrs ago #26
Thank you. Well said. Please convey these to your member of Congress. (even if a reactionary R) question everything 10 hrs ago #28
I wrote to my maga congress guy Tree Lady 9 hrs ago #29
I could never understand why...? kentuck 7 hrs ago #33
I think we should end the changing of the clocks dsc 6 hrs ago #35

FHRRK1

(222 posts)
10. AZ is in the middle of a zone
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 01:44 AM
Yesterday

Grew up in Phx, where we didn't have Day Light Saving and never understood the need. Understood that an extra hour of 100 degree plus isn't good.

Moved to CA and partially got why most states switch. School kids walking in the dark, sundown at 4:50 PM during rush hour. Understood the argument from farm States.

But now most seem minor, just stick with Std. Time, bit of an impact on certain area, farmers are plowing and seeding fields using GPS and headlights. With that, we should have terabytes of data on impact of accidents between Standard and Daylight time. (Understanding the days after the switch are likely the most variable) If it is wash, it seems silly not to make the switch.

sarisataka

(23,289 posts)
3. They need to pick one and leave it, end the switching of clocks
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 12:17 AM
Yesterday

My preference would be standard time but I think we can adjust.

Blues Heron

(9,221 posts)
7. No, that doesn't make any sense
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 12:39 AM
Yesterday

We do summer time for summer because there’s more hours of light, then, we do winter time for winter because there’s no point whatsoever in hustling out the door an hour early when it’s dark and cold out.

sarisataka

(23,289 posts)
8. The hours of sunlight on a given day is fixed
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 12:54 AM
Yesterday

regardless of what our clocks say. A person's job says they have to be there at a certain time and it doesn't matter if it is light or dark; I have even seen farmers working at night by the lights on their vehicles.

Skittles

(173,985 posts)
12. THANK YOU
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 02:50 AM
23 hrs ago

as someone who worked 12 hour night shifts for decades, I found the chronic whining about time change to be over-the-top ridiculous

3catwoman3

(30,383 posts)
31. I agree. Do people not ever across into a different time zone...
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:15 PM
8 hrs ago

...to visit family/friends for a weekend, or stay up later than usual for one reason or another.

Does it take 2 weeks to recover from that?

Skittles

(173,985 posts)
34. honestly
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:48 PM
6 hrs ago

if a one hour time difference wreaks havoc, there are more issues than just time change

pnwmom

(110,358 posts)
14. People fly all the time and don''t get traumatized by a time change of an hour.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:08 AM
23 hrs ago

Why is changing the clocks twice a year such a big deal?

People who are in favor of this don't consider the effects on people who live on the extremes. As far north as Seattle, the winter mornings are already dark. We don't need to add an extra hour of darkness.

sarisataka

(23,289 posts)
18. I am on the extreme
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:34 AM
23 hrs ago

Darkness lasts a long time on Minnesota winter days. The is why my preference would be for standard time.
I know however that there are going to be days I go to work when it is dark and when I head home it is also already dark.

pnwmom

(110,358 posts)
19. What's wrong with changing the clocks a couple times a year? We in Seattle don't need
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:12 AM
22 hrs ago

it to be light at 4 am either.

hunter

(41,005 posts)
32. Speak for yourself.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:11 PM
7 hrs ago

I find the time changes of long distance air travel equally unpleasant.

My biological clock must be strong. To me setting our clocks forward and back is disorienting. I've enjoyed living in places where it isn't done.

pnwmom

(110,358 posts)
36. In December here the dawn is almost 8 am. We don't need darkness to continue to almost 9 am. nt
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 08:18 PM
6 hrs ago

hunter

(41,005 posts)
37. I've got some ideas about a more natural time system.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 10:18 PM
4 hrs ago

Local domestic time could be measured as "hours from sunrise." Phone apps could keep track of this. For example the school day might start three hours after sunrise. A farmer might get out of bed an hour before sunrise. A simple microprocessor can calculate sunrise. That's something the first clockmakers didn't have. There are some good sunrise calculators on the internet if anyone want to get a feeling for how that might work.

Sunrise-to-sunrise times are not consistent throughout the year but so what? That's the way humans lived before clocks were common. Time followed the sun.

Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) would be used for work where the variable length of time from sunrise to sunrise would confuse things. Railroads and airlines would use UTC, hospitals and other 24/7 workplaces would use UTC, etc. If some event of worldwide interest was scheduled for a particular UTC time, perhaps an important football match or a moon landing, the UTC time and date would be advertised and nobody would be confused.

LeftInTX

(35,248 posts)
4. Mexico and Canada will have fits.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 12:22 AM
Yesterday

Only Mexico's border areas are on DST. They will really have a cow if it's 24/7. Likewise, Canada will likely swtich to all DST just so everything is synchronized with the US.

Most fo the world is getting away from it! We're regressing! Light gray is where they used to have it. Dark grey is where it never was.



Orange is DST in the southern hemisphere.

dweller

(29,076 posts)
5. I read that states could opt out of permanent daylight savings time
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 12:25 AM
Yesterday

That should be fun …



✌🏻

pnwmom

(110,358 posts)
20. Why? Don't you ever fly from east to west or the reverse? What's the big deal
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:14 AM
22 hrs ago

of adapting to an hour change?

Wifes husband

(805 posts)
22. Changing a wrist watch is one thing
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:23 AM
22 hrs ago

Changing clocks for an entire society is another.
I understand we can do it. We already in fact do it. Just stupid, that's all.

Response to Wifes husband (Reply #22)

question everything

(52,749 posts)
25. The American Academy of Sleep Medicine
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:54 PM
10 hrs ago

Although chronic effects of remaining in daylight saving time year-round have not been well studied, daylight saving time is less aligned with human circadian biology — which, due to the impacts of the delayed natural light/dark cycle on human activity, could result in circadian misalignment, which has been associated in some studies with increased cardiovascular disease risk, metabolic syndrome and other health risks. It is, therefore, the position of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine that these seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.

https://aasm.org/advocacy/position-statements/daylight-saving-time-an-american-academy-of-sleep-medicine-position-statement

pnwmom

(110,358 posts)
13. I don't mind the time changes, which are no worse than taking an airplane flight
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:06 AM
23 hrs ago

across a time zone. No big deal.

Being here in Seattle, I don't like the idea of winter mornings even later than they are now.

ToxMarz

(3,245 posts)
16. Neither daylight savings time or standard time have any magical properties
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:18 AM
23 hrs ago

The problem is constantly changing it implying time is flawed and we are changing it because it is the problem.

We are the problem in constantly trying to bend time for our convenience and then the argument is just about who's convenience is most important.

SET TIME FREE!!!

progressoid

(53,639 posts)
17. You might want to find another source. Mercola is a quack website.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:21 AM
23 hrs ago

One of my faves is that he has decided that carbon dioxide will feed the bacteria in his gut and is blowing the gas up his bum regularly, one and a half liters at a time, claiming that it creates a force field around him.

question everything

(52,749 posts)
24. How about the American Academy of Sleep Medicine?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 03:52 PM
10 hrs ago

Although chronic effects of remaining in daylight saving time year-round have not been well studied, daylight saving time is less aligned with human circadian biology — which, due to the impacts of the delayed natural light/dark cycle on human activity, could result in circadian misalignment, which has been associated in some studies with increased cardiovascular disease risk, metabolic syndrome and other health risks. It is, therefore, the position of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine that these seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.

https://aasm.org/advocacy/position-statements/daylight-saving-time-an-american-academy-of-sleep-medicine-position-statement

3catwoman3

(30,383 posts)
30. I'm sitting here snorting thru my nose.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:11 PM
8 hrs ago

Pretty much what I was thinking but had not come up with such a succinct description.

LogDog75

(1,505 posts)
26. Daylight Saving Time is an artifical construct that should be abolished
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:09 PM
10 hrs ago

Daylight Saving Time was useful when our country was a agrarian nation and when we became an industrial nation but the reasoning behind the idea was to give farmers and industrial workers more daylight working hours. Farmers didn't like the idea of DST and DST was mainly for the owners of factories to get more work out of they employees.

Today, we have modern lighting for our workplaces and the need for daylight for work is minimal. DST may have been useful in its day but now not so much. I'd favor repealing DST and going to natural cycle of day and night. One problem would be a lot of electronic products that keep time are programmed for automatic DST adjustments and are not programmable.

question everything

(52,749 posts)
28. Thank you. Well said. Please convey these to your member of Congress. (even if a reactionary R)
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:18 PM
10 hrs ago

Tree Lady

(13,471 posts)
29. I wrote to my maga congress guy
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:06 PM
9 hrs ago

Had to bite my tongue to be polite to the jerk. I always wonder if they look up if you are a democrat and delete whatever you say.

I want it to stay standard all year because I hate how late sun does down in summer and waiting till 8pm to walk dog.

kentuck

(116,326 posts)
33. I could never understand why...?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:27 PM
7 hrs ago

...they didn't just say, "Come in an hour earlier", rather than attach the rule to everyone??

dsc

(53,472 posts)
35. I think we should end the changing of the clocks
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 08:02 PM
6 hrs ago

but either way will be inconvenient for some people with the current time zones so it should be coupled with editing the time zones. Eastern Time for example encompasses Maine, NC outer banks on the east and Cincinnati, Louisville, Lexington, and Indianapolis in the west. All standard messes with the east and all daylight with the west.

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