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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Brief and sudden illness"???
It sure must have been brief, because he was scheduled to be on MTP this morning.
Another interesting senatorial scenario
Im not a conspiracy theorist, but
Nah, I dont want to say anything inappropriate at this time, itd be utterly tasteless. And crass.
Nope, Im taking the High Road
.for now.
H2O Man
(79,537 posts)The High Road can include saying nice things, like I hope he is okay.
durablend
(9,522 posts)Mitch said so. Nice and warm.
Conjuay
(3,139 posts)Omnipresent
(7,565 posts)H2O Man
(79,537 posts)displacedvermoter
(5,293 posts)JPK
(1,030 posts)Is a pink chiffon appropriate?
Lifeafter70
(1,306 posts)Just saying
FascismIsDeath
(335 posts)This was unexpected for sure but not unrealistic at all.
PCIntern
(28,890 posts)And please let me add that that can also be said in Russia with the epidemic there of defenestrations and poisonings.
But all jokes aside thats true. I just wouldnt classify a heart attack or stroke as an illness. But thats me.
FascismIsDeath
(335 posts)But it could be as simple as pneumonia or something like that.
PCIntern
(28,890 posts)Theres either a lot more to this story or nothing at all.
The Madcap
(2,251 posts)Seems to be in the news a lot lately.
I thought "illness" was a strange choice, but I don't doubt the cardiac arrest angle, especially after a long flight and likely poor sleep.
PCIntern
(28,890 posts)But many individuals are not aware of the distinction among descriptors so whoever composed the press release may have done so, unknowingly confusing illness with episode or condition.
It may well have been a blood clot. The exact same thing happened to the wife of a patient of mine who flew back from Israel. She dropped dead two days later, never having been sick.
paulkienitz
(1,571 posts)and the abruptness of it, conspiracy ideas are gonna be inevitable.
Katinfl
(959 posts)be straightforward with the cause of death and end the speculation.
agingdem
(9,077 posts)and unless he had an undisclosed history of coronary heart disease, reprehensible Lindsey died of a sudden heart attack..the cause is irrelevant because Trumps ass-kissing toady is still dead..thoughts and prayers!
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,334 posts)As Nelson Rockefeller. Except instead of a 25 year old woman
John1956PA
(5,160 posts)PCIntern
(28,890 posts)Response to John1956PA (Reply #21)
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displacedvermoter
(5,293 posts)unhappy. Covered up nicely, but the story still brings out a nasty chuckle from fans of "salacious 1970s political trivia", which I admit, I too enjoy...
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,334 posts)Im old. Also a native of NY State and the beneficiary of the SUNY system that Rockefeller started. Pat Moynihan and Jacob Javits were the Senators I grew up with. Back when there were still honorable Republicans. And in todays world, Nelson would be considered a Social Democrat, except for his misguided views on recreational drugs.
wolfie001
(8,311 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,762 posts)was in her 60s and died in surgery when surgeons couldn't staunch the resultant brain hemorrhage. Overall, sudden may be a kinder way to go than lingering for years.
Bumbles
(635 posts)Buckeyeblue
(6,529 posts)Maybe he had some heart issues or something else. I don't know if he exercised. He looked like a drinker.
LeftInTX
(35,228 posts)Congestive Heart Failure?
Although it's not brief and sudden, he may have had it. People can have it for decades, but maybe it caused his cardiac arrest last night?
CincyDem
(7,466 posts)A serious question for the medical types around the board...what's the difference. Not looking for conspiracies or anything but it just seems like a difference without distinction.
Is there some political reason its better (if that's possible) to die of a brief and sudden illness that to announce that he died of a heart attack of a cardiac arrest?
PCIntern
(28,890 posts)This has caused my eyebrow to be raised.
Unless you die in some kind of comprising situation.
pnwmom
(110,357 posts)Everyone knows what a heart attack is, but fewer people know about DVTs and P.E's, which can happen after long plane flights. And a P.E. can damage the heart or cause a stroke.
They might not know exactly how he died unless they do an autopsy.
videohead5
(3,054 posts)He was just on a very long airplane ride. It's pretty easy to put two and two together.
Roy Rolling
(7,774 posts)We have a winner!
Just returning from a long flight is the key. A pulmonary embolism checks all the boxes. Not a shockable rhythm, its why he needed immediate transport.
I think, technically, a pulmonary embolisms symptoms are nearly identical to a cardiac arrest. Defibrillator usually detects the difference in electrical rhythm. (From a retired EMT)
ananda
(35,953 posts)and never knew she had it.
It was sudden and unexpected.
wolfie001
(8,311 posts)He seemed in shape but not "combat-ready". All of the sudden the body is in stressful situations. Sad.
pnwmom
(110,357 posts)and most people don't know they're at risk till they've had their first. It wouldn't matter how combat ready they were if they had the gene.
GPV
(73,512 posts)onenote
(46,479 posts)JMCKUSICK
(6,991 posts)I know there are many of us who happen to have had symptoms that we heeded which made us long term medical issue sufferers rather than sudden medical event victims if you will.
There are many people who never have a sign before the Big One.
Lovie777
(24,739 posts)RandySF
(88,649 posts)that DC Emergency Services desponded to a cardiac event at his house on Capitol Hill. I dont know if he died or at the hospital.
lostnfound
(17,725 posts)i think it was probably just a heart attack. Years of stress from selling his soul and from travel.
One never knows however.
Trueblue Texan
(4,753 posts)Who are we talking about?
wolfie001
(8,311 posts)
Trueblue Texan
(4,753 posts)wolfie001
(8,311 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,753 posts)PER-AYYYYZZZZZE Jesus if this is true!!!
twodogsbarking
(20,065 posts)Vinca
(54,643 posts)Conspiracy me can't help but think now is the time for Russia to poison Ukraine supporters in this country. Our intelligence and federal law enforcement (excluding ICE) has been gutted.
Boo1
(780 posts)DVT after extended plane ride.
But just a thought, could be anything.
LisaL
(48,279 posts)Certainly a possibility.
wolfie001
(8,311 posts)That's my opinion. Just ask Ivana for confirmation.

rampartd
(5,891 posts)i wonder how many video discs fit in there?
Some golfer shanks a ball and it lands on her grave? Does he get a drop or does he have to play it from where the ball landed?
NCDem47
(3,577 posts)You saw it in his television appearnaces and odd behavior
I've seen it up close and personal. The body can only take so much abuse.
MrsCheaplaugh
(295 posts)For a 71 year old man who's out of shape, heavy drinking is deadly.
tavernier
(14,600 posts)Have to switch to wine. But the docs say women should stop at one wine so that has to be the nightcap. Its a bitch getting old.
The Wizard
(13,997 posts)worm food
bucolic_frolic
(56,507 posts)The wars, the temperatures of global warming, the anger and scheming, the paranoia, the travel, the infighting, the greed.
This is not a relaxed and tolerant space, and no one is getting any younger.
He rose high in life and deserves the respect of office, I suppose. But to me he was just misguided.
Kid Berwyn
(25,700 posts)Extended Illness is cancer.
Simplifies pathology to save time for readers.
rampartd
(5,891 posts)GreenWave
(12,917 posts)Sympthsical
(11,370 posts)Either the family wants privacy, or they're not definitively sure what caused the death yet and just want to get a notification out there.
Another common acute illness included in this verbiage is pneumonia. Sepsis, too.
Sudden illness is generally just a euphemism for unexpectedly. Usually to signal they weren't secretly suffering from some undisclosed issue. Like sometimes how an actor or whomever has cancer that's been kept from the public (i.e. when Alan Rickman died).
Edit: Dying suddenly at 71 isn't a crazy event. As the other poster noted, he just returned from a long trip. Maybe DVT.
Blue Owl
(60,269 posts)flying_wahini
(8,285 posts)QueerDuck
(2,501 posts)I suspect that in the end, more truths will come out. All the things that LG wanted to keep secret (whatever they may have been) and all the things that his handlers and blackmailers were using against him to keep him in control and make sure that he toed the line. It will be interesting to see how this develops and how long it takes for the truth to bubble up to the top of the LG cesspool of lies.
marble falls
(73,722 posts)marble falls
(73,722 posts)sinkingfeeling
(58,369 posts)dweller
(29,071 posts)So SC Senate seat looking good now ?
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EnergizedLib
(3,298 posts)If you are MAGA, please die.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,480 posts)Mz Pip
(28,558 posts)why not just say so? No one would be surprised.
I just find this wording odd. Its the kind of wording that leads to speculation and conspiracy theories.
LeftInTX
(35,228 posts)He came home from Ukraine hours earlier
Spoke with Trump on the phone
Told Trump his was tired
Called EMS for chest pain around 8:30 pm
Emergency medical services received a call around 8:30 p.m. Saturday for a person with chest pains at a Capitol Hill home owned by Graham, according to the audio. About 25 minutes later, emergency personnel said that CPR was in progress and that a man at the house was suffering from cardiac arrest.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/07/12/lindsey-graham-longtime-south-carolina-senator-dies-71/
The blurb after his death was a press release from his staff.
I never read much into those things.
They are just meant to tell the public that someone
1 died
2 died of natural causes
3 wasn't running around sick.
Was brief illness a bad choice of words? Did he have some other health issues? Maybe.
But he just got home from Ukraine, so this brief illness was very brief. Other words, "Died unexpectly from natural causes", "Died unexpectedly after experiencing chest pain". His press people may not have had all the details. It's hard to get the right wording, when you're dealing with an emergency situation. People are not the best wordsmiths when they're dealing with emergencies. I hear poor wording from law enforcement frequently, then it gets refined.
Mz Pip
(28,558 posts)I guess with all of the speculation around McConnells hospitalization, its hard not to be a bit suspicious.
Though, I just read that Kash Patel said an investigation is underway.
Grim Chieftain
(2,430 posts)Do these idiots even understand common definitions? You just can't fix stupid.
LeftInTX
(35,228 posts)Graham died hours after returning from a trip to Ukraine, where he met with President Volodymyr Zelensky. The senator had been one of Ukraines staunchest supporters in Washington.
Emergency medical services received a call around 8:30 p.m. Saturday for a person with chest pains at a Capitol Hill home owned by Graham, according to the audio. About 25 minutes later, emergency personnel said that CPR was in progress and that a man at the house was suffering from cardiac arrest.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/07/12/lindsey-graham-longtime-south-carolina-senator-dies-71/
PCIntern
(28,890 posts)If so, then yeah. Most likely.
LeftInTX
(35,228 posts)I see this alot. They are trying to convey death, natural causes, but they fumbled a bit on the natural causes thing. Maybe they wanted to convey that he didn't have a chronic illness and called it brief, leading people to believe he had a weeks long illness or something.