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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAdvocate.com: Graham consistently denied being gay
https://www.advocate.com/obituaries/lindsey-graham-deadGrahams political record unfolded alongside years of speculation about his sexual orientation, often expressed through homophobic jokes, insinuations, and attacks.
Graham, who never married and had no children, consistently denied that he was gay. His unmarried status was not evidence of his sexual orientation.
In 2018, after comedian Chelsea Handler posted a crude insinuation about him, Graham responded directly. To the extent that it matters, Im not gay, he said, criticizing Handlers comments as unhelpful to the country.
The speculation intensified in June 2020 after adult-film performer Sean Harding posted allegations involving an unnamed Republican senator. Social media users identified the senator as Graham, and the nicknames Lady G and Lady Graham began trending.
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ALSO: The Washington Post described what followed as a combination of political commentary, speculation and trolling. The allegations that Graham had hired male escorts were never substantiated by documentary evidence or independently confirmed by a credible news investigation.
Vinca
(54,644 posts)known bigots, homophobes and assorted low lifes. I certainly don't judge him for his sexual preference whatever it was . . . it's everything else about him. Most prominently his switch from normie to fan club member. It would be amusing, though - and would drive Dear Leader nuts - if they have him lie in state so people can pay their respects and a bunch of drag queens turn up.
Srkdqltr
(10,236 posts)QueerDuck
(2,502 posts)In the "grand scheme of things" public policy has real-world consequences, and a politicians laws outlive their lifespan. A persons private life stops being private the moment they use their immense legislative power to strip rights, safety, and dignity away from others.
When someone spends their career voting against LGBTQ protections while benefiting from the discretion of an "open secret" it isn't just gossip... it's a devastating example of how political survival is bought at the expense of vulnerable communities.
And before anyone says "but he's dead now, why do we care?" ... the answer is simple: we care (or at least I do) because his death didn't repeal his voting record. The judges he confirmed, the policies he supported, and the systemic barriers he helped reinforce are still actively harming people today.
While others ignore and whitewash his legacy, we must review the full, complicated truth at the time of their passing precisely because history demands accountability. The systems of hypocrisy they left behind are still very much alive.
Srkdqltr
(10,236 posts)As time goes by. Gay or not, he is dead. Reputation is only important for living people.
QueerDuck
(2,502 posts)Lindsey Graham's death did not magically repeal his voting record. It didn't remove the lifetime-appointed judges he confirmed, and it didn't undo the decades of systemic barriers he helped reinforce against LGBTQ equality.
This goes far beyond a philosophical debate over a dead man's "reputation." I am one of the living, and his legislative legacy actively affects my life, my safety, and my rights today.
We don't analyze his history to change his past... we analyze it because we still have to survive the real-world fallout of his choices in our present.
Hopefully other anti-lgbtq politicians like him will take notice
B.See
(9,117 posts)Frankly I had no knowledge of these allegations until now.
But yes, Black or white, gay or straight, male or female, left or right, Jew, Muslim, or Christian... and all points in between,
what matters is what you DO, what you support, enable, defend, and the harm you've done to others in the process. Made worse, if there's an element of betrayal.
multigraincracker
(38,449 posts)a story. It might be interesting. Other than that I could care less.
Dan
(5,367 posts)mr715
(5,101 posts)biocube
(301 posts)That seems to be the trend with Republicans.
David__77
(24,932 posts)ColoringFool
(1,565 posts)Sympthsical
(11,374 posts)Nothing was ever substantiated beyond social media claims. Effeminate men are not always gay. I just found out the other day a YouTuber who I've watched for a few years and just assumed was gay actually has a wife. I learned of this when he announced they had a baby. Hell, I didn't even know the wife existed. But Graham was single and came off a certain way, so there's always the potential.
I will say he did give an awful lot of straight people free license to make gay jokes for a long time.
It must have been very liberating for them to finally have an acceptable target.
Ah well. Guess they'll have to find another potentially closeted politician to transfer all that "fun" to.
Tree Lady
(13,471 posts)Met him in person and he talks and acts like he is gay but he is happily married to a woman. His business how he is.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,589 posts)Sympthsical
(11,374 posts)Ahahahahahaha. That is awesome.
Yes! I swore he was gay for the longest time, and I just found out this weekend that he wasn't. It's not just the voice and mannerism. Just the whole outfit set up.
I was shooketh.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,589 posts)We just started following a couple weeks or a month-ish ago.
We were both like what a nice young man he is
.. wait what?
Fiendish Thingy
(24,753 posts)That much is certain.
Lets see whos in his will.
QueerDuck
(2,502 posts)SpankMe
(3,830 posts)It doesn't matter if he was gay and still held conservative beliefs about homosexuality. Even though he voted against LQBTQ+ measures up and down the line, he never actually lived or enjoyed any aspects of what is seen as the gay lifestyle. By all accounts he never had a male relationship or lived his reality. He suppressed it, whether out of guilt, self-imposed morality or something else.
There was a single rumor once from a male escort who claimed to have visted a 'certain Republican senator' who was larfgely believed to have been Graham, but it was never confirmed that that's who it was. (There have been many - remember Larry Craig from ID?) If he was really whooping it up with the boys on the side, we'd have seen more credible evidence of this. A high-profile, long-serving US senator wouldn't have been able to serve this long without it getting blown wide open at some point.
If Graham was gay, he was in total, self-loathing denial. He's still an asshole for denying rights to the gay community. But I can't say he was a hypocrite on the matter since he never availed himself of the trappings of "the gay" himself.
There are plenty of straight people who openly live a celibate life without intimacy owing to some over-the-top fatwa against "lust" or whatever. If Graham was gay, he may have been living a "gay-free" life out of moral choice. We have to give him a pass on that just like we accept clergy who live under the same moral restrictions.
Again, if he was being gay on the side, in a closeted fashion all while denying others those same provileges through his votes, I'd be more ciritcal. But there's so much more to criticise him for outside of perceived gay hypocrisy that I think we sould be focusing on that in rememberance rather than unsubstantiated suppositions about his sexuality.
mr715
(5,101 posts)If he were offered a nickel for his soul, he'd sell it for a penny.
His sexuality is symptomatic of his much greater pathology which is he was a parasite that lived by ingratiating himself to more significant people. He's gross.
That he lived with, or didn't live with self-loathing over traits he has no control in doesn't really matter to me. He was a dishonorable man.
ColoringFool
(1,565 posts)votes against gay rights because said politician wishes not to be perceived as gay, THAT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF "HYPOCRITE."
Gay "trappings"? 🙄
SpankMe
(3,830 posts)I was trying to make parallels to, say, straight clergy who consciously chose to remain celebate and to not even date or seek physical companionship or even the company of a woman. This is a choice that they make for reasons of morality (and other factors) even though it goes against their nature as a heterosexual human capable of sexual impulses.
There are also voluntarily celebate straight people who - through religious or some other motivation or emotional condition - find any type of physical or sexual attraction repulsive and distasteful to the point where they live their whole lives completely sexless. In some cases, they won't even hang out alone with people of the opposite sex.
I'm saying that one possibility if Graham was gay is he may have been such an individual who was so guilty or self-hating or disdainful of homosexualty that he consciously chose to not to engender any aspect of it. No dating men, no sex with men, no hanging out socially with other gay males - no social or cultural traits commonly associated with gay men (which is what I meant by 'trappings'. Poor word, I admit.)
The controversial aspect of my hypothesis is that if he consciously suppressed all aspects of homosexuality in his personal life and lived no part of it, then his commentary (or votes) against LGBT interests wouldn't neccessarily be hypociritcal since he was not living, or enjoying, the things he was voting against (like when an anti-abortion lawmaker votes against abortion and then takes his teenage daughter two states over for an abortion).
ColoringFool
(1,565 posts)BY TRUMP, subsequently helping the traitor BE a traitor.
Raftergirl
(2,034 posts)And its none of my business.
I dont want to be in anyones bedroom, and I dont want any one else to be in mine,
valleyrogue
(2,843 posts)It merely points to the person insinuating it is "evidence" of being gay or lesbian is a judgmental POS with 1950s sentiments.
Whether a person marries or doesn't isn't an indication of one's sexuality or of "being normal." I am so sick of this 1950s bullshit I can scream.
rickyhall
(5,527 posts)I've known people from all over the South and Eastcoasters have a bit of a feminine twang. At least, it sounds that way to this East Texan. So some might think that he might be a gay person with a swish.