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BumRushDaShow

(151,219 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:12 AM Mar 18

Trump-Hating Podcast Rockets Past Rogan With Nearly Double the Downloads

Source: Daily Beast

Updated Mar. 17 2025 11:00PM EDT
Published Mar. 17 2025 5:08PM EDT


Cry your eyes out, Joe Rogan. The left-leaning MeidasTouch Podcast just widened its lead as the top podcast in the country, clocking just under 125 million downloads and views in the last month, according to Podscribe.

This is more than double the listeners MeidasTouch received in February, when it first dethroned The Joe Rogan Experience for the top spot. Rogan’s podcast registered 64 million downloads.

The podcast gets its name from the progressive “pro-democracy” media company MeidasTouch. Its hosts—Meiselas brothers Ben, Brett, and Jordan—mix news with banter and often criticize President Donald Trump, with recent episodes titled “Trump Suffers Badly as It All Backfires on Him” and “Trump Blows Up Term Quickly and Throws a Party.”

Prior to his podcast days, Ben Meiseles, the co-owner of the Los Angeles Magazine, was NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s lead lawyer. Brett Meiselas previously worked as a video editor on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, for which he earned two Emmys. Jordan Meiselas was an award-winning advertising executive in New York.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-meidastouch-podcast-blows-rogan-out-of-water-with-nearly-double-downloads/



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Trump-Hating Podcast Rockets Past Rogan With Nearly Double the Downloads (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 18 OP
I am not much of a Rogan fan but has he had any comment now that Trump is in office? dutch777 Mar 18 #1
A number of news sources have had articles BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #4
I NEVER understood why Dems/Progressive/Liberals EVER listened to Rogan, but now...? hlthe2b Mar 18 #9
!!!! BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #14
Post removed Post removed Mar 18 #17
Meh. I'm not buying what you are desperately trying to sell. hlthe2b Mar 18 #23
Hey you don't gotta buy anything. I've just been tied in to the podcast scene for ages. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #25
Ooooooooor Hornedfrog2000 Mar 18 #88
If he could abandon his principles because "leftists" were mean to him Daydream Writer Mar 18 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #31
You can find ONE person to say ANYTHING... hlthe2b Mar 18 #34
Unfortunately, my experience says otherwise. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #37
Then I must ask, why are you here if you have such contempt for liberals, Dems, progressives? hlthe2b Mar 18 #39
I'd rather you stop ascribing false motives. Sharing an anecdote or a statement of fact is not "Contempt". Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #41
You cited those statements as your reason for believing/defending Rogan's turn on the "left" and embrace hlthe2b Mar 18 #42
They were two unrelated anecdotes, I'm sorry if that wasn't made abundantly clear. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #43
If I hold a gun to your head and say "Vote Republican" and you do so, are you at fault? Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #93
That's just some melodramatic bullshit. I used to listen to him going back to the Carlitos Brigante Mar 18 #103
Contempt Cirsium Mar 18 #89
I've expressed contempt for far-left fringe extremists who threaten political violence, yes. I'll own that. Proudly. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #94
Terrorists? Cirsium Mar 18 #96
"The left has extremists so it's understandable that Rogan Daydream Writer Mar 18 #44
You're seeing it already. See Meidas Touch, who have surpassed Rogan. Glad we agree n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #45
So they weren't leftists before? Daydream Writer Mar 18 #49
I agree with you about the "Self Serving" part, but in the end, everyone is. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #50
Come on Cirsium Mar 18 #56
No, has nothing to do with "Both Sides", just that extremists harm both extremist and centerist platforms within a party Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #58
Pretty absurd Cirsium Mar 18 #62
Please, I'm plenty used to crazy. I'm a Democrat. That's just the norm. :P n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #64
Keep digging Cirsium Mar 18 #65
What digging? We're all a bit bonkers here. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #66
Comedy gold Cirsium Mar 18 #71
I'm just not going to risk a hide to engage in your bad-faith dialogue. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Mar 18 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #72
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This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Mar 18 #90
I can happily admit that memory fades over time, and if it genuinely isn't what I thought it was, I apologize. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #91
Thank you. I've deleted my posts about this. Wiz Imp Mar 18 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #81
Or simply thought there's more profit in dishonesty Torchlight Mar 18 #70
Or that. Because he didn't get to the top being non-controversial. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #75
Much as Alex Jones n/t, pt 2 Torchlight Mar 18 #76
Exactly. Outrage sells. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #79
Oh, I don't, think their preaching to the choir.... Butterflylady Mar 18 #105
Really? I don't know about you but... eleonora Mar 18 #46
I agree on a personal level, but not everyone is us. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #48
You keep saying that about Meidas Touch and you're wrong Wiz Imp Mar 18 #74
Poor Joe. He got called out for his liberal use of racial epithets... ECL213 Mar 18 #53
You're not wrong there, mate. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #55
Thanks for the laugh Cirsium Mar 18 #54
Put simply, I'm more centerist. The far left, by definition, isn't. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #57
No such thing Cirsium Mar 18 #60
Who said anything about "in US Politics"? It's the casual ground-level self-serving extremists that're the problem. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #63
Worse and worse Cirsium Mar 18 #67
Well I was talking about the US citizenry and electorate. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #69
Yup. He ruined his reputation and likely will lose Joinfortmill Mar 18 #33
The people are ready to fight the billionaires gab13by13 Mar 18 #2
You are right, I am trying to convince that to youngsters kansasobama Mar 18 #5
It will also be good when we start... Think. Again. Mar 18 #6
Glad to see it but in an unfortunate way Woodwizard Mar 18 #3
Yes, hardcore magats are pretty much a lost cause... Think. Again. Mar 18 #7
So Here's The Thing... 75% Of Our Populace Require This Type Of 'Presentation'... And It's Working! MayReasonRule Mar 19 #110
Yes, although I despise being part of the "dumbing down"... Think. Again. Mar 19 #111
I Largely Agree My Fellow Freedom Lover! MayReasonRule Mar 19 #112
I'm extremely proud of you for escaping! Think. Again. Mar 19 #114
"I do not believe this will enlighten any maga" BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #8
My point is. Woodwizard Mar 18 #13
Right now BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #24
Medias Touch uses far too hyperbolic subject lines... At some point 1000 claimed Trump "meltdowns".. hlthe2b Mar 18 #10
The fact that tabloids and tabloid-style programming are probably the "most read/watched" among the masses BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #11
Yes. I get the tactics to try to pull in new viewers... hlthe2b Mar 18 #12
By the time they start to go downhill BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #18
It works....for awhile and then people tune out Bengus81 Mar 18 #27
But while you have their attention BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #32
Those clickbait titles seem to be the norm nowadays Mr. Mustard 2023 Mar 18 #16
Same. Woodwizard Mar 18 #20
There are whole swaths of people who consume NO "political news" BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #21
I would rather have a paper in front of me Falcon101 Mar 18 #52
ME TOO! Is it a generational thing? I can read in seconds or a few minutes what they take an hour or more to convey. hlthe2b Mar 18 #80
I'll agree with you here, mate. Podcasts ain't my bag and I prefer the feel of a newspaper. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #86
"but why do we now have to convey EVERYTHING in video format?" BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #99
Interesting... (and a bit sad- for me, at least)... I figured it was generational. hlthe2b Mar 18 #100
What bugs me are a lot of them are just re-packaged. Hell he has a new vid out seemingly Bengus81 Mar 18 #29
I'm a big fan of Meidas Touch Pototan Mar 18 #15
And in third place... Geechie Mar 18 #19
Yeah, that blew my mind BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #22
Yes. I noted that. I know she has long appeared everywhere on RW media and maybe I knew she had a podcast... hlthe2b Mar 18 #82
She appeals to the closet white power idiots Geechie Mar 18 #97
When is everyone going to stop using X/Twitter? KatjeD Mar 18 #26
Do people ask that here about Facebook? I'd bet there are a load of people here that still Bengus81 Mar 18 #28
I still have my account on FB but haven't posted since Election Day and I always kept my posts to friends only kimbutgar Mar 18 #61
Re: Why not stop using Facebook too? KatjeD Mar 24 #116
This!!! Bkuesky, people! Joinfortmill Mar 18 #36
MeidasTouch also uses the other social media BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #38
Showing and telling it like it is. republianmushroom Mar 18 #35
Congratulations to Meidas Touch! I love it liberalla Mar 18 #40
the Democracy-loving podcast the Meidas Touch. barbtries Mar 18 #47
Sure gives me hope! PortTack Mar 18 #51
I just subscribed to add to their numbers kimbutgar Mar 18 #59
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Mar 18 #85
One of my favorite TV comedy shows of all time stoned Mar 18 #87
Mine too. progressoid Mar 19 #109
Rogan is garbage alarimer Mar 18 #92
This is misleading and was explained recently madville Mar 18 #95
"Hate" with Excellent Reasons.. Cha Mar 18 #101
Finally some good news in the social media realm Blue Owl Mar 18 #102
That's because people are hungary for the truth... Butterflylady Mar 18 #104
Hope it means something in the big picture... blue_jay Mar 18 #106
One quibble, I find no hate in their posts. mahina Mar 18 #107
I'm not a podcast person, but I found them on bluesky and TBF Mar 18 #108
I listen to Meidas Touch daily. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 19 #113
First and foremost, I love what the Meiselas brothers are doing! BobTheSubgenius Mar 19 #115

dutch777

(4,315 posts)
1. I am not much of a Rogan fan but has he had any comment now that Trump is in office?
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:18 AM
Mar 18

He has interviewed some interesting archeologists which I have watched on YouTube but I don't follow him generally. I was wondering if was going to do any follow ups on what he has helped do-- get Trump elected.

BumRushDaShow

(151,219 posts)
4. A number of news sources have had articles
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:29 AM
Mar 18

Last edited Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:02 AM - Edit history (1)

of him trashing and thrashing Democrats.

Muskrat has apparently been a regular and per this from Axios -


Updated Mar 1, 2025
Musk defends DOGE, slams AP in interview with Joe Rogan

(snip)


Rogan: "World would be a very different place" if Musk didn't buy Twitter

Musk said his account "would have been suspended a long time ago" if it was still being run the way it was before.

  • "Trump would have never come back and Alex Jones would have definitely never been back," Rogan responded.


  • Rogan and Musk on AP News and "Gulf of America"

    Rogan and Musk started laughing before describing the standoff between the Associated Press and the White House over calling the "Gulf of America" the "Gulf of Mexico."

  • An AP news reporter was barred from the Oval Office because the outlet's stylebook still refers the the body as the Gulf of Mexico.
  • The AP sued the White House for blocking its reporters from access to events like Oval Office meetings and Air Force One press pools. A federal judge refused to immediately order the White House to restore their access to presidential events.
  • Rogan called AP and other news outlets "propaganda campaigns" and that they all "distributed absolute lies."
    "It's only Fox News that's talking about the positive things that DOGE has found," he added.


  • Like the other gasbag Stephen A. Smith, who should stick to "sports" (in quotes), it's time to put these types out to pasture.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    9. I NEVER understood why Dems/Progressive/Liberals EVER listened to Rogan, but now...?
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:39 AM
    Mar 18

    Now that he's been instrumental in destroying our democracy with his aid to Trump, some STILL want to claim that "oh, that was just a 'one-off'"...

    What is so appealing about this bombastic, misogynistic POS that so many of our folks want to make excuses for him? Really?

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    14. !!!!
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:01 AM
    Mar 18


    I just don't get it.

    When people like this "show you who they are, then believe them". It's the same with people like Bill Maher, who some try to defend for "some things". I say fuck them both.

    Response to hlthe2b (Reply #9)

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    23. Meh. I'm not buying what you are desperately trying to sell.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:36 AM
    Mar 18

    Bombastic, misogynist from the beginning--that is classic RW-- and today, MAGAT.

    25. Hey you don't gotta buy anything. I've just been tied in to the podcast scene for ages.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:43 AM
    Mar 18

    I was actually clued in to Rogan by a person I would say is far to the left of me who mentioned he was solid. He was, for a while, but then I caught the attempted cancellation of him and mostly stayed on out of morbid curiosity to see how it'd end.

    Either way, you asked a question, I answered the truth as an "I saw it happen" experience. I try to stay tied in to the internet culture around non-media influencer personalities, because like it or not, they're the future of the Media as we know it.

    Daydream Writer

    (16,834 posts)
    30. If he could abandon his principles because "leftists" were mean to him
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:56 AM
    Mar 18

    Then he never had any principles at all.

    Response to Daydream Writer (Reply #30)

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    34. You can find ONE person to say ANYTHING...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:02 AM
    Mar 18

    including our all-too-frequent trolls that appear here now and then...

    That you would think this anecdote is representative of how Dems think is astonishing (and outlandish).

    37. Unfortunately, my experience says otherwise.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:07 AM
    Mar 18

    There's always extremists among every faction but they're absolutely never acting alone.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    39. Then I must ask, why are you here if you have such contempt for liberals, Dems, progressives?
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:08 AM
    Mar 18
    41. I'd rather you stop ascribing false motives. Sharing an anecdote or a statement of fact is not "Contempt".
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:11 AM
    Mar 18

    I'm here because I believe the Democratic party is the only real option for America moving forward. That fact alone makes it far more important to suss out and exterminate extremist and malicious threats to the Party as a whole.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    42. You cited those statements as your reason for believing/defending Rogan's turn on the "left" and embrace
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:18 AM
    Mar 18

    of MAGA. You excoriate the Left for supposedly driving him to that position. Tell me again why I have no reason to (as you say "ascribe those motives" (including contempt for the Left) to your attitudes. Really....?

    43. They were two unrelated anecdotes, I'm sorry if that wasn't made abundantly clear.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:25 AM
    Mar 18

    The whole Left-bombing of Rogan has an entire infrastructure and history behind it if you care to look it up, should take several dozen hours to watch most of the more relevant content.

    Simple fact is, extremists are the death of movements. And what we need absolutely none of now is extremists making our own anti-Trump cause look as bad as they've been doing. And I keep seeing here on this very site condemnation of Rogan, breathless "I don't understand!"s about how he became the Right's main squeeze, yet every time it's pointed out that he was literally A LEFTY PODCASTER, it's met with "Nuh-uh, neener neener and if you disagree with my completely factless and unhinged statements you're a MAGAT".

    I've been watching that particular story for half a decade. You asked a question, I answered based on the facts I've seen firsthand. If that isn't good enough for you and you actually want the truth as it happened, it's out there. Go get it, Champ! But I have a feeling that you've already made up your mind.

    93. If I hold a gun to your head and say "Vote Republican" and you do so, are you at fault?
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:22 PM
    Mar 18

    The left had Rogan in their hands. They then decided he wasn't worth supporting, that because he said a bad word or interviewed the "Wrong" person, he was persona-non-grata. So he said "Screw it, I'll go where the money is since my old audience now wants me dead".

    There's no contempt there, just historical accuracy.

    Carlitos Brigante

    (26,843 posts)
    103. That's just some melodramatic bullshit. I used to listen to him going back to the
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:23 PM
    Mar 18

    early days with all the streaming problems and the pixelated ass video quality. He was always kind of a meathead who'd agree with the last person who'd talk to him. He'd nod his head at Ted Nugent's moronic rantings on Monday. Then tell Abby Martin she's right about pretty much everything on Wednesday. But at least he seemed genuinely curious and would also invite actual scientists and philosophers.

    What happened to him was that Covid broke his brain as well as suffering some serious audience capture. he jumped on the "woke" bandwagon. His audience who used to be more mixed became more and more right wing, the more he had on fascists like that Milo dickhead and pushed less and less. He saw how much more $$$ he could make pandering to imbeciles, and that's that. I'm pretty sure he's never even claimed that bullshit excuse of yours that "Whaaaah!!! the leftists were soooo mean to me, so now I gotta go full on fascist!".

    And as far as those "mean leftists" go, if you wanna defend him calling black people apes like 20 times in one episode. Be my guest. At a minimum he deserved to be called out for that shit. Platforming Alex Jones for years in spite of all the pain and suffering that bag of shit caused the Sandy Hook parents is not something to defend either.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    89. Contempt
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:58 PM
    Mar 18

    You have repeatedly expressed contempt for Democrats on this thread, the millions of Democrats who aren't "centrists" as you describe yourself, the millions who don't agree with you.

    94. I've expressed contempt for far-left fringe extremists who threaten political violence, yes. I'll own that. Proudly.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:23 PM
    Mar 18

    And if that's a bad thing, then "Oh no! Anyways." I don't support terrorists. Boo hoo.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    96. Terrorists?
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:45 PM
    Mar 18

    "Far-left fringe extremists who threaten political violence?"

    WTF are you talking about?

    Daydream Writer

    (16,834 posts)
    44. "The left has extremists so it's understandable that Rogan
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:28 AM
    Mar 18

    became a huge Trump supporter and platformer of racists, holocaust deniers, and white supremacists" isn't quite the flex you think it is.

    But if you're right, I'm sure we're going to see lots of podcasters completely abandoning their "principles" to come to the left, now that there are so many extremists on the right!

    Daydream Writer

    (16,834 posts)
    49. So they weren't leftists before?
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:36 AM
    Mar 18

    Becuase that's what you keep saying - that Rogan was a leftist who switched all the way to the other side, becoming a right-wing racist, completely abandoning any principles he might have had before, because of leftist extremists. So by pointing to Meidas, I'm sure you mean they made the same kind of pivot. I mean, that would be easily verifiable.

    But also, neener neerer, I don't care if Rogan was ever really a "leftist". I wouldn't, and haven't, abandoned my principles because the left "has extremists" or "policed my words". Such a person would be a weak-willed, self-serving idiot who I could never, ever trust.

    50. I agree with you about the "Self Serving" part, but in the end, everyone is.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:40 AM
    Mar 18

    As I mentioned a few posts down, I agree with you, I won't ever give up on my principles just for the sake of personal gain, but that's a choice that some people may not make.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    56. Come on
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:27 PM
    Mar 18

    So if someone somewhere at some time said that they would vote for a Nazi if they had a "D" after their name, that justifies people becoming right wingers?

    "Not a one-way street?" What are you talking about? Is that a "both side do it" argument? We are no better than the right wingers?

    58. No, has nothing to do with "Both Sides", just that extremists harm both extremist and centerist platforms within a party
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:34 PM
    Mar 18

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    62. Pretty absurd
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:46 PM
    Mar 18

    Of course you are making a " both sides" argument. It is a perfect example.

    Be sure to let us know when our "far leftist buck-wild, pink-haired crazy-eyed fuckcrazy" forces you to become MAGA, will you?

    66. What digging? We're all a bit bonkers here.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:55 PM
    Mar 18

    Nine Hells, this your first rodeo? What's that quote, "I'm not a member of an organized political party, I'm a Democrat".

    Lighten up, Francis.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    71. Comedy gold
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:02 PM
    Mar 18

    "Lighten up." In other words, your commentary is going down in flames.

    No, its not my first rodeo, buckaroo. 50+ years of rodeos.

    73. I'm just not going to risk a hide to engage in your bad-faith dialogue.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:05 PM
    Mar 18

    We're parting ways here one way or another, so I wish you a good day and happy trails.

    Response to Hellbound Hellhound (Reply #31)

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    Response to Hellbound Hellhound (Reply #84)

    91. I can happily admit that memory fades over time, and if it genuinely isn't what I thought it was, I apologize.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:15 PM
    Mar 18

    Back then, tempers were incredibly high and I may have interpreted something that wasn't what it may have appeared to be. I'll self-delete the original post of the subthread.

    I'm genuinely sorry if I've caused any sort of distress. And thank you for proving me wrong.

    Response to Wiz Imp (Reply #77)

    Torchlight

    (4,554 posts)
    70. Or simply thought there's more profit in dishonesty
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:01 PM
    Mar 18

    And of course there is. And of course it works. But I also realize we often hang our hats on racks of our own choosing.

    79. Exactly. Outrage sells.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:16 PM
    Mar 18

    Meidas has found that outrage has a price tag, they're cashing in on it. Gods bless 'em. I get the feeling they're preaching to the choir, but if they reach even one MAGAT, all the better.

    Butterflylady

    (4,376 posts)
    105. Oh, I don't, think their preaching to the choir....
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 07:06 PM
    Mar 18

    To me it's people are tired of being lied to. They want the truth. They're tire of the white-washing by the mainstream media.
    I'm on SS so I don't have much income, but I gladly give to DU and The Meidas Touch Network because I know they tell me the truth.

    To that's what counts.

    eleonora

    (1,594 posts)
    46. Really? I don't know about you but...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:32 AM
    Mar 18

    ...I don't go around and change my views because others happen to disagree with me. What you're really saying is he values profits over having a strong core of basic values. And that isn't someone I want as my friend.

    48. I agree on a personal level, but not everyone is us.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:35 AM
    Mar 18

    The man's a podcaster and he knows how to market to the audience most likely to bring in money. There will be a time he'll swap back to being a leftist if the money flows that way. End of the day, it's a business.

    Just like Meidas Touch. They saw a market waiting, unfulfilled, and they capitalized on it, now they're the biggest in the industry because the social media infosphere banks most on outrage. The current outrage de jure is Trump, so of course a competent business will capitalize on it.

    Wiz Imp

    (4,772 posts)
    74. You keep saying that about Meidas Touch and you're wrong
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:05 PM
    Mar 18

    The Meidas touch people NEVER changed or sold out their principles. They were always "leftists" and to imply otherwise is beyond dishonest.

    ECL213

    (346 posts)
    53. Poor Joe. He got called out for his liberal use of racial epithets...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:16 PM
    Mar 18

    so he decided he would entrench himself with the people who don't mind. His "left-right switch" is nobody's fault but his own, and purely financial. He is exactly who the right pays him to be.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    54. Thanks for the laugh
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:21 PM
    Mar 18

    "Purity test?" How absurd. What makes our criticism of Rogan's bigoted bs "purity tests" or "cancelling" while your criticism of the so-called "far leftists" is not?

    57. Put simply, I'm more centerist. The far left, by definition, isn't.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:28 PM
    Mar 18

    I'm not calling for purity and can accept a businessman doing business in our favor as a good thing. Others couldn't and went buck-wild, pink-haired crazy-eyed fuckcrazy, so Rogan went full tilt against our cause because that's where the money was and because of self-serving extremists who couldn't handle him interviewing No-No People.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    60. No such thing
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:41 PM
    Mar 18

    There is no "far left" in US politics.

    "Buck-wild, pink-haired crazy-eyed fuckcrazy"?" "Self-serving extremists?" this some sort of parody?

    You are just repeating Rogan's (and Fox news') bigoted and reactionary take on politics. It is pretty disgusting. Oops, am I applying a purity test or cancelling you or Rogan now? Poor babies. Guess you will have to turn MAGA and it will be all my fault. Will I need to dye my hair pink?

    What do you think you (and Rogan and Fox news et al) are doing if not applying purity tests and cancelling people?

    63. Who said anything about "in US Politics"? It's the casual ground-level self-serving extremists that're the problem.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:50 PM
    Mar 18

    But since you're engaging in personal attacks, I'm going to just step back. I've clearly hit too close to home.

    Cirsium

    (2,359 posts)
    67. Worse and worse
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:58 PM
    Mar 18

    Of course we talk about US politics here.

    I made no personal attacks against you.

    "Hit too close to home?" Sure, if your target was the Democratic party and the millions of people to the left of you. But don't worry, you haven't done any damage.

    69. Well I was talking about the US citizenry and electorate.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:01 PM
    Mar 18

    We were talking about social media and its influence on consumers, but I guess Joe Rogan is a politician now if I'm reading you right?

    It's okay, no damage done as you said.

    Joinfortmill

    (17,870 posts)
    33. Yup. He ruined his reputation and likely will lose
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:02 AM
    Mar 18

    much of his audience. I don't think magas know what archeology is.

    gab13by13

    (27,793 posts)
    2. The people are ready to fight the billionaires
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:20 AM
    Mar 18

    The town halls are working, the narrative is changing against Krasnov/Musk. People are marching in the streets.

    The time to fight is now not 6 months from now, The Timid 10 kneecapped us but it is what it is, water over the dam, we will just fight harder.

    kansasobama

    (1,750 posts)
    5. You are right, I am trying to convince that to youngsters
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:30 AM
    Mar 18

    I am a senior citizen but still active. However, we really need college students and youngsters to be on the streets NOW. Yes, they say they are burnt out and trying to make ends meet. Here is the problem. This is a do if doe situation for the Republic. They have to find a way, we all do. I should also do more.

    Rallies need to be like what we saw in Belgrade and Budapest in the past few days. NCAA, NFL, NBA, players should all be out there . People who were everywhere after George Floyd, where are you? Anti DEI push is a cover for legal racism and sexism.

    What the hell is wrong with Hollywood? Where is George Clooney? He was more interested in pushing out Biden than opposing Trump now.

    Obamas. Clintons, Bush are all quiet. Why?

    Think. Again.

    (22,330 posts)
    6. It will also be good when we start...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:30 AM
    Mar 18

    ...flushing out the dead weight such as the Timid Ten, the "YES" voters, etc, and replacing them with actual pro-Democracy politicians.

    Woodwizard

    (1,164 posts)
    3. Glad to see it but in an unfortunate way
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:26 AM
    Mar 18

    It is now the war of hyperbolic. I do not believe this will enlighten any maga just make them dig in deeper.

    Meidas Touch has at least to me become a bit over the top. Rogan I never saw the appeal.

    Think. Again.

    (22,330 posts)
    7. Yes, hardcore magats are pretty much a lost cause...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:33 AM
    Mar 18

    ...we shouldn't waste too much effort on them.

    Luckily they are only about 20% of the population.

    Think. Again.

    (22,330 posts)
    111. Yes, although I despise being part of the "dumbing down"...
    Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:05 AM
    Mar 19

    ...of America, speaking to the masses (who always poll in favor of our ideological stands) is imperative to give them the opportunity to vote against fascism and for Democracy if they choose to start voting.

    My comment about not wasting energy, time, and money on preaching to magats stands though, I believe they are a lost cause.

    MayReasonRule

    (3,183 posts)
    112. I Largely Agree My Fellow Freedom Lover!
    Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:48 AM
    Mar 19

    I, the love of my life, and our daughter are the only members of our families that escaped the Abrahamic blood cult of 'Christ' in which we were reared.

    All the rest of our family members are firmly embroiled within the construct of their delusional malevolence.
    All the rest of our family members are Y'all Qaeda Nat-Cs.

    I was reared and groomed to be in the position that Mike Johnson is today.
    We were reared and inculcated within the same type of delusional malevolence, a.k.a. Nat-C depravity.

    We remain grateful each and every day for our escape.
    Reason is our 'god
    Doubt is our 'savior'.

    Although escape is truly rare that does not discredit the value of the individuals that are the 'Darwin Award Winning' Nat-C fascists.

    Each one is someone's mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, child, etc....
    So while I do understand your sentiment, I'm exceptionally pleased that Meidas has reached even a sliver of those individuals.

    One of those individuals that makes their escape just might end up being one of my relatives or friend one day.

    I place hope and 'prayers' in the same stinking crock of delusional shit.
    I do however desire that others make their escape.

    It changed my life completely...

    I wrote a series of songs between 10 - 18 years ago as I fought for each of us to finally make that complete escape.

    Here's an excerpt from one of them. It is truly next to impossible to escape delusion once one is firmly embroiled within it. I and mine are some of the rare exceptions.

    Stark raving sober the man said to me,
    I hate my life daily, I'd be grateful to be,
    In somebody's presence, that might understand,
    The 'son of god' of the suffering man...

    Give up your suicidal sainthood
    Don't multiply pain
    All you 'sanctified sinners'
    'Hymned' in by shame

    If your father's forgiveness
    Needs blood for the plan...
    Wash in the son of your god's...
    Not the suffering man's...

    Cause there's no easy way when you're a hardcore believer
    And you trust in the schemes of the fools and the dreamers
    When jubilant elation meets ultimate sorrow
    Catastrophe's joy could take decades to swallow

    A sip at time, was all I could stand...
    But only with lime and salt on my hand
    A lick and a swallow
    And maybe tomorrow
    I could learn how to be free...

    Free, free...
    Of this undying love of the hardcore believers
    The unshakeable faith in the fools and the dreamers
    The 'holy' devotion to 'sins of the ages'...


    Think. Again.

    (22,330 posts)
    114. I'm extremely proud of you for escaping!
    Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:24 AM
    Mar 19

    Cults are VERY difficult to find your out off!

    But I still feel that the immediate need for Pro-Democracy votes is too important to waste Democratic Party resources on reaching out to magats right now.

    Yes, I would also love to save and protect my fellow Americans from the radicalization of the magat cult, but we don't have very much time left to stop the flood of fascism, which we must do if we will have any chance to help others back to health from maga.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    8. "I do not believe this will enlighten any maga"
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:33 AM
    Mar 18

    It's NOT for them. They have plenty of crap that they listen to, watch and read.

    It's for EVERYONE ELSSE, many who are generally apolitical or just not "into politics", but who are NOW being negatively impacted by the MAGats and have nowhere to turn or place to go (because progressives/liberals spend money on HELPING people instead of buying media outlets to indoctrinate others to HURT people).

    Woodwizard

    (1,164 posts)
    13. My point is.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:58 AM
    Mar 18

    It radicalism on the left they could do a better job getting the point across without having their hair on fire. Maybe it's just me but I read the news. not watch hyped up news that just keeps anxiety rolling forever.

    They were not as over the top in the beginning.
    I feel this type of info just makes people locked into ideology.

    Just my opinion.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    24. Right now
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:38 AM
    Mar 18

    we are in a "Break Glass In Case Of Emergency" time and there ARE "real" people doing this -



    because they may have moved to a new city for a federal job, bought a house, and were suddenly and illegally laid off for bullshit reasons (and not even given the required 60-day notice). You have others overseas doing government business who had their government travel cards frozen to $1 per day (and the cards are used for lodging/transportation/MIE, etc).

    You have to "grab" some of these people who are looking for "answers" and if you can capture their eyeballs, then you can feed them the info that we spent a billion dollars trying to warn them about last year.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    10. Medias Touch uses far too hyperbolic subject lines... At some point 1000 claimed Trump "meltdowns"..
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:42 AM
    Mar 18

    are going to have to result in SOMETHING....

    I'm not suggesting they aren't doing good work but maybe drop all the unwarranted sensationalism.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    11. The fact that tabloids and tabloid-style programming are probably the "most read/watched" among the masses
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:53 AM
    Mar 18

    (see the National Enquirer or any of the "reality show" crap - and there is a broad spectrum of it), then it behooves for us to try to capture THAT audience because they are certainly "not listening or reading" what they consider "boring", "technocratish" content.

    But we are slowly finding that using such a tabloid style presentation CAN introduce actual facts for their consumption instead of the RW crap that they have been fed by other sources like Rogan.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    12. Yes. I get the tactics to try to pull in new viewers...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:57 AM
    Mar 18

    But, at some point it may backfire. Even the National Enquirer eventually lost buyers (readers) when they were bamboozled a few thousand times too many.

    One of the Meidas Brothers comes from a NY marketing background, so it is clear that is influencing the presentation.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    18. By the time they start to go downhill
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:16 AM
    Mar 18

    you come up with the "next new thing" to capture them. Meanwhile the message indoctrination has taken place.

    We have to stop using the "old tactics" because they are not working and not getting to the audience that we need it to get to.

    Bengus81

    (8,713 posts)
    27. It works....for awhile and then people tune out
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:45 AM
    Mar 18

    And the Enquirer wasn't politics that affect everyone, it was splashy big print come ons about Bigfoot and actor/actresses BS.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    32. But while you have their attention
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:01 AM
    Mar 18

    you hit them with the info and then switch up styles.

    People still gravitate to the "man bites dog" stories. THAT is what 45 excels at presenting, day after day after day.

    Mr. Mustard 2023

    (316 posts)
    16. Those clickbait titles seem to be the norm nowadays
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:11 AM
    Mar 18

    and they're actually a barrier to me viewing them. I am 64 white male, so maybe I'm just a Dinosaur, but consuming political news has been my passion for 40 years. Not anymore. Partly due to the dipshit & his maga band of morons, but digital is ruining it for me.

    "Trump HUMILIATED in BREATHTAKING moment" type headlines & then you watch it and it's often a decent piece of information but nothing like the clickbait headline screams.

    We must support our emerging media but they seem like lying to me. I guess I'm just old and used to more sophisticated headline lies from stodgy old white guys back in the day. IDK.

    Of course Republicon media lies to us on nearly everything so our media is fighting fire with fire & learning how to get clicks which is good, but I can't do it.

    Woodwizard

    (1,164 posts)
    20. Same.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:21 AM
    Mar 18

    60 white guy I avoid any videos with bright yellow block letters and !!!!!!!!!. We are in a age of who can shout louder.

    There are post titles I read on here and it is pretty much the same 3 posters putting them up.

    If I was to believe them Ukraine has won the war and Trump and his crew are heading to jail as of 2 years ago.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    21. There are whole swaths of people who consume NO "political news"
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:25 AM
    Mar 18

    but are fans of click-bait stuff. So if you get them with the click-bait, then they might be able to consume some of our messaging.

    WE who are fine with what they consider "boring messaging that seems to drone on with too many SAT words, bullet points " (and what is derisively declared as "elitist" language) understand the purpose, but "the masses" tune that stuff out and that is what we DON'T want. Have to "package" our messaging in a manner that the rest of the populace is used to.

    I got sick and tired of seeing link headline after link headline on so-called "news sites" that would say bullshit like -

    "Can Trump really destroy the moon? It's complicated".


    The overuse of the phrase - "It's complicated" - has sent me off a cliff because it accepts the FALSE premise and then tries to explain it in the article, regurgitating the ridiculous assertion, and eventually (maybe) telling the truth at the very end of the article.

    Falcon101

    (47 posts)
    52. I would rather have a paper in front of me
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:04 PM
    Mar 18

    Same here-I cannot listen to a podcast for an hour hearing the same thing over and over (20 minutes max). I don't need to hear excerpts of Trump speaking and someone telling me he is lying and what he is saying. I know he is a POS and he lies all the time. I would rather hear interviews of people with something that is enlightening rather than a recap of what I already know from the mountains of news sources. I will take a daily newspaper any day over the digital crap.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    80. ME TOO! Is it a generational thing? I can read in seconds or a few minutes what they take an hour or more to convey.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:16 PM
    Mar 18

    I like short animal videos and the like and watch my share of short youtube or TikTok videos on occasion, but why do we now have to convey EVERYTHING in video format? Not to reach too far, but is it like the disappearance of cursive writing/reading? Does no one even want to read computer text now either?

    I am seriously wondering, not trying to insult anyone...

    86. I'll agree with you here, mate. Podcasts ain't my bag and I prefer the feel of a newspaper.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:31 PM
    Mar 18

    It's one thing to know what the baddies are doing online, but for pure news? I go to the old-school. I just wish they didn't bang me for 2.25 a paper for the dailies and 6 for the Sundays. :/

    ON EDIT: I remember the days not overly long ago when papers were 50 cents, and if you gave the machine a good "Yank yank jiggle PULL" you could grab one for free.

    Not gonna lie, I miss two decades ago.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    99. "but why do we now have to convey EVERYTHING in video format?"
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:43 PM
    Mar 18

    Because the youngest Millennials, GenZ, and Gen Alpha "communicate" that way.

    My youngest nieces and nephews will do a few brief "written" texts but they MOSTLY forward me video memes to describe their "take" on certain subjects - and that includes "politics". It's literally like the video becomes an "analogy" that best describes their perspectives of "current events".

    They have evolved to be very "visual" and seem to need to include the full "experience" of what they are thinking beyond words on a page - they want the "emotion", the facial expressions, the movements, to underscore what they are thinking. I suppose it's compensation for their lack of discussions "in person" that they barely do - EVEN when with a group of their friends. I have been in the midst of maybe half a dozen teens all together in my sister's livingroom and ALL on their phones - with little actual interaction between them despite them sitting next to each other. That is because they are "expressing themselves" through other types of symbolism - using their phones.

    The older Millennials are more "verbose" with the texts but not the younger generations and very few post on discussion boards like this nor even use email. Forget newspapers. Those are anachronisms to them.

    It's the most bizarre thing but that is what they do.

    Bengus81

    (8,713 posts)
    29. What bugs me are a lot of them are just re-packaged. Hell he has a new vid out seemingly
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:52 AM
    Mar 18

    every hour, 24 hours per day.

    hlthe2b

    (109,267 posts)
    82. Yes. I noted that. I know she has long appeared everywhere on RW media and maybe I knew she had a podcast...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 01:21 PM
    Mar 18

    But, damn. I never imagined her show to be popular. I find her disgusting, exploitative, beyond dishonest, and beyond...

    Geechie

    (1,010 posts)
    97. She appeals to the closet white power idiots
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:49 PM
    Mar 18

    So they can claim to take at least one black woman seriously.

    KatjeD

    (8 posts)
    26. When is everyone going to stop using X/Twitter?
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:43 AM
    Mar 18

    Seriously.

    I am having a hard time getting behind any "news" or "discussion" from the Resistance that showcases some post on X. People, you have choices. WHY are you still putting money in Elon's pocket?

    Bengus81

    (8,713 posts)
    28. Do people ask that here about Facebook? I'd bet there are a load of people here that still
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:48 AM
    Mar 18

    have an account on FB. I canceled mine about three years ago with that pasty face puke let Trump back on.

    kimbutgar

    (24,906 posts)
    61. I still have my account on FB but haven't posted since Election Day and I always kept my posts to friends only
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 12:42 PM
    Mar 18

    I doubt I’ll ever go back to it and be active again!

    KatjeD

    (8 posts)
    116. Re: Why not stop using Facebook too?
    Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:20 PM
    Mar 24

    Well, ELON MUSK doesn't own Facebook/Meta and last I heard, Zuckerberg wasn't pillaging the U.S. government with a posse of tech bros.

    BumRushDaShow

    (151,219 posts)
    38. MeidasTouch also uses the other social media
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:08 AM
    Mar 18

    like "Threads" (Meta) and "Blue Sky", where I included all 3 versions in the OP comments.

    Twitter, which was destroyed by Musk, had been around for almost 20 years before he bought it and destroyed it, and there really wasn't an alternate until a couple years ago (e.g., "Mastodon" which seems to have faded because of the complicated manner of how they host the communities), and people are slowly switching to other alternatives.

    But the big news sites and many government entities are still using it as they transition because they still have "followers" (numbers dropping though) on what is what many of us dub "Xitter".

    barbtries

    (30,349 posts)
    47. the Democracy-loving podcast the Meidas Touch.
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 11:35 AM
    Mar 18

    "trump-hating"? what a way to make sure no one who voted for TCFSF will ever listen.

    millions of us hate that convicted felon sick FUCK, but the Meidas Touch exists to promote democracy and transparency, and the truth.

    madville

    (7,655 posts)
    95. This is misleading and was explained recently
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:27 PM
    Mar 18

    Say rogan posts 10 episodes a month that are 3 hours long, call it 30 hours of content.

    Mediastouch posts 90 clips a month that are 20 minutes, also 30 hours of content.

    So their 121 million downloads is spread across say 90 clips or short episodes, while Rogan’s 64 million downloads are across 10 episodes.

    That means Rogan has around a 5x or 6x larger viewer base than them per hour of content. If Rogan broke his episodes up into 20 minute clips he’d have 500-600 million downloads using the same strategy as them.

    So their amount of downloads is a misleading metric as far as claiming to be the top podcast. Maybe 1 out of every 200 people is watching/listening to Meidastouch, compared to 1 out of every 40 for Rogan.

    Cha

    (309,911 posts)
    101. "Hate" with Excellent Reasons..
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 04:03 PM
    Mar 18

    Mump is trying to Destroy our beautiful Planet.. Starting with our Country,

    Mahalo, BRDS & Meidas Touch .Reality News~

    blue_jay

    (46 posts)
    106. Hope it means something in the big picture...
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 09:27 PM
    Mar 18

    out of curiosity, is anyone here clued in as to what Instagram is all about? Know lots of youth (you know, the ones who aren't showing up to any town halls) use that as their mainstay. Not sure whether it's just pictures or if there are "news" feeds, etc.

    TBF

    (35,085 posts)
    108. I'm not a podcast person, but I found them on bluesky and
    Tue Mar 18, 2025, 10:24 PM
    Mar 18

    now subscribe. They are fantastic! It is exactly what the left needs. Meet people where they are at.

    ProudMNDemocrat

    (19,596 posts)
    113. I listen to Meidas Touch daily.
    Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:15 AM
    Mar 19

    I follow the Meisalas brothers on Bluesky and Jordy follows me actually.

    How cool is that? Also, I am a Meidas Mighty member as well. Subscribe to their channel and become a member at whatever you can spare each month. Help the Meidas Touch Network grow.

    BobTheSubgenius

    (11,977 posts)
    115. First and foremost, I love what the Meiselas brothers are doing!
    Wed Mar 19, 2025, 12:34 PM
    Mar 19

    The only criticism of them I have is that their headlines are often pretty click-baity.

    Has there ever been 3 brothers with more complementary skillsets for building a 'business' than these 3?

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