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BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:57 AM Apr 11

The Pentagon just cut $5.1 billion in IT and consulting contracts with firms like Accenture and Deloitte

Source: Business Insider

Apr 10, 2025, 9:59 PM ET


The US's defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, just ordered the termination of IT and consulting contracts with companies like Accenture and Deloitte, calling it "wasteful spending." In a Department of Defense memo, Hegseth said he would cut a Defense Health Agency contract "for consulting services from Accenture, Deloitte, Booz Allen, and other firms that can be performed by our civilian workforce."

Also on the chopping block is the Air Force's contract with Accenture to "re-sell third-party Enterprise Cloud IT Services," which Hegseth says the government can "already fulfill directly with existing procurement resources." In the memo, Hegseth also said he was terminating 11 other contracts for "consulting services" that support "non-essential" activities, like Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI), climate matters, and the Pentagon's COVID-19 response.

Hegseth said the terminations "represent $5.1 billion in wasteful spending" at the DOD and would result in nearly $4 billion in savings. The savings would be reallocated, Hegseth said, to serve "critical priorities to Revive the Warrior Ethos, Rebuild the Military, and Reestablish Deterrence." He did not specify in his memo which Pentagon projects this money would go to.

In response to a request for comment, the DOD directed Business Insider to an X video of Hegseth talking about the terminations. "By the way, we need this money to spend on better healthcare for our warfighters and their families, instead of $500 an hour business process consultant. That's a lot of consulting," Hegseth said in the video.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-killed-5-billion-contracts-with-accenture-and-deloitte-2025-4



Full headline: The Pentagon just cut $5.1 billion in IT and consulting contracts with firms like Accenture and Deloitte, calling it 'wasteful spending'

BAH is ALL OVER the government with contracts that have been cancelled left and right.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/booz-allen-hamilton/C00709816/candidate-recipients/2024
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The Pentagon just cut $5.1 billion in IT and consulting contracts with firms like Accenture and Deloitte (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 11 OP
Don't need them now that the DOGE Hacker boys are on the scene mdbl Apr 11 #1
Hmm, maybe this kind of thing is why the BLS reported this morning that producer prices dived 0.4% in March progree Apr 11 #2
And usually CNBC blares out a breaking news banner on this BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #3
Thanks! nt progree Apr 11 #4
It's up. BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #6
"the Consumer Sentiment ... (someone else can go ahead with that )" -- I see why you wanted to avoid progree Apr 11 #11
Well I provided 12 PREVIOUS examples of the posting of that BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #12
Surveys and features progree Apr 13 #17
What is tricky though BumRushDaShow Apr 13 #18
The dirty little secret is the DoD has NO competency in IT..... getagrip_already Apr 11 #5
Exactly BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #8
My story was similar ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 14 #19
A lot has been contracted out, but there are still civil servants who know Deminpenn Apr 14 #20
They might know how to "run IT" BumRushDaShow Apr 14 #22
exactly sysadmins can keep things running, but can't fix apps or tune shite getagrip_already Apr 14 #23
"Just look up Louisiana Cobol Mainframe Issues." BumRushDaShow Apr 14 #24
Guess what atreides1 Apr 11 #7
Hey, that money is needed for essential multibillion $$$ contracts with Starlink and X ! eppur_se_muova Apr 11 #9
Amazon is a HUGE IT provider Ursus Rex Apr 11 #10
Amazon's AWS already has a significant chunk of of those contracts BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #14
He has no idea what the fuck he is doing. milestogo Apr 11 #13
See my post below 100% knows the grift JCMach1 Apr 12 #16
We are now actively doing shakedowns for $$$ and JCMach1 Apr 12 #15
Hegseth is a broken clock here. He's right Deminpenn Apr 14 #21

mdbl

(6,295 posts)
1. Don't need them now that the DOGE Hacker boys are on the scene
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:00 AM
Apr 11

They can do all the IT stuff.

(edited to add the sarcasm emoji just in case a dumb trumper wanders in)

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
3. And usually CNBC blares out a breaking news banner on this
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:06 AM
Apr 11

but nada this morning as they have been all over the tariffs, stock market, and a pile of earnings reports! I did just find an article so will throw that up for ya!

progree

(11,837 posts)
11. "the Consumer Sentiment ... (someone else can go ahead with that )" -- I see why you wanted to avoid
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:13 PM
Apr 11

Last edited Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:54 PM - Edit history (1)

posting that, but at least people saw it in LBN for 5 hours, then it "blinked out" so-to-speak, and then, ha ha ...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143438480

During the blackout phase, I put it in Editorials & Other. I also found 4 of them in General Discussion (which I added my graphs to )

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
12. Well I provided 12 PREVIOUS examples of the posting of that
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:36 PM
Apr 11

and know it's a regular feature (I don't always do those but have done a few), and I know there were plenty more that I could provide to make the point.

So it's back.

And definitely appreciate you, mahatmakanejeeves, and LetMyPeopleVote for adding that "extra" icing on the cake in threads!

progree

(11,837 posts)
17. Surveys and features
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:09 PM
Apr 13

I'm sure glad that hopefully some important surveys are still considered appropriate, even if only grudgingly so.

The consumer sentiment survey (University of Michigan) and the consumer confidence survey (Conference Board) are likely to keep getting more interesting and scary. The positive aspect is that it shows more and more people are catching on. Not a lot of people telling the surveyors about some "golden age" of falling prices. Greenland for just $570 million?

Come to think of it, the big first Friday job's report (featuring non-farm payrolls and the unemployment rate) data is from two surveys: the Establishment Survey and the Household Survey. Maybe the BLS should be called the Bureau of Labor Surveys. The unemployment insurance claims that come out every Thursday is based on a survey of each state's unemployment insurance data. Probably most of the economic reports are. (Another CPI = survey of retail prices)

Oops, did I say "featuring"? That's a bad word. I should say "highlighting" or something else safe like that.

I provided 12 PREVIOUS examples of the posting of that and know it's a regular feature
(emphasis added)

Or a regular "thing" or "report" or somesuch, rather than "feature"
https://www.google.com/search?q=thesaurus%3Afeature

Thanks also for all the info back on March 9 on these kinds of matters -- I really appreciate it.

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
18. What is tricky though
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 07:29 PM
Apr 13

is unless I check into the Economy group, I'm not sure who is releasing what on what date AND at what time! I know BLS, BEA, DOL, Census, etc., usually do the 8:30 ET release but others will go earlier or later - like after 10 am ET!

And CNBC doesn't always blare with their breaking chimes when they release!

I did go on and download the Yahoo! Finance app so that one is blapping out breakings. And since I keep using MarketWatch a lot for different stuff, I finally broke down and subbed to that too.

getagrip_already

(17,680 posts)
5. The dirty little secret is the DoD has NO competency in IT.....
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:12 AM
Apr 11

They have outsourced it for years under contract to civilian firms. I was a consultant for a LARGE 3 letter company that would be contracted to provide services, and we had to work with the third party contractors as well as the staff resources.

The govies were good at program management, but knew absolutely nothing about the systems we managed. Pull out the contractors, and systems will quickly degrade and become inoperable.

That is across every department and agency in the government, both classified and unclassified.

Cutting these contracts will be disastrous for systems and readiness.

Not to mention the number of people it will unemploy. Luckily, I'm out of that business.

Recession? Make it a depression.

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
8. Exactly
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:27 AM
Apr 11

I know in my agency, ever since they began migrating out of the Vax/VMS world and moving to Oracle, etc, they started wholesale contracting out management of the big data systems (hardware and software), and that started in the early '90s. The "Certified Oracle DBA" used to be as ubiquitous a term back then as the term "SEO" that you see nowadays. The onsite IT staff basically became CORs and COTRs for the contracts, getting all the requirements together and managing the task orders.

19. My story was similar ...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:31 AM
Apr 14

Back when I was at an Army schoolhouse there were three tech offices – I was the head of the ed tech group, and I worked closely with the CIO’s office and the Department of Information Management (DOIM). The Ed Tech and CIO offices had about three people each The CIO and his deputy were in uniform (COL & LTC) but everyone else in the two offices were Army civilians. The DOIM had a MAJ “in charge” who was basically the contract manager and everyone else (~40-50 people) were all contractors from BAH.

So, the whole tech team was three officers, five DoD civilians and everyone else was contractor. Basically, if it plugged in only the contractors could touch it (outside of general use). The rest of us were planners and managers.

If that contract got cut the place would shut down instantly.

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
22. They might know how to "run IT"
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:20 AM
Apr 14

but at this point, there might still be the ones who manage (create images for) and distribute the laptops and do basic trouble-shooting, etc., as well as managing the LAN ops, email policies, etc.

However for the big databases, you may have your civil service SMEs who handle the requirements analyses, but the rest of the stuff is housed and managed offsite by contractors - often at the contractor's facility. Some of that was due to the 9/11 and the Homeland Security Act (to help harden/tighten up the infrastructure hosting the systems, etc), along with any amendments/related Acts associated with IT/anti-terrorism stuff.

getagrip_already

(17,680 posts)
23. exactly sysadmins can keep things running, but can't fix apps or tune shite
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 09:20 AM
Apr 14

Some gov systems have been moved to the cloud (highly secure versions of aws, azure, etc), and some govies can manage that environment, but they don't understand the apps or architecture.

It's even worse for data center systems.

Things will keep running until they don't, and then all heck will come down. Doubly so if the idiots neglect support contracts, digital cerificates, encryption keys, and the like.

These aren't small systems. Some are multi-petabyte analytics environments. Cultural history of the systems is as important as current architecture. Change something seemingly unrelated and the ripple effects will drive you crazy until that one old timer who set it up steps up and splains things.

Just look up Louisiana Cobol Mainframe Issues. The governor has declared a state of emergency because a breakdown has pretty much disabled their DMV. Cobol is what runs the SSA, it is in the VA, and dozens of other large agencies. That is just one example.

DoD logistics runs on very old crap. Try fighting a war if you don't know where supplies are or where they need to go.

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
24. "Just look up Louisiana Cobol Mainframe Issues."
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 10:37 AM
Apr 14

My dad was a COBOL programmer. He was literally trained by "The Admiral" herself (as my mom said Adm. Grace Hopper was dubbed) back in the mid-'50s. He worked for the VA (back when it was called the "Veteran's Administration before becoming a Department) and worked on the veteran's checks here in Philly at their facility. When me and my sisters were little, he would bring us to work to gawk at the raised floor cold room where all the stuff was buzzing and whirring (banks of processors with mag tapes, along with the loud card reader machines, and keypunch machines). He used to bring write-protect tabs home so we could throw them around like frisbees.

He and his group would do "test" programs with stacks of punch cards that when fed into the reader, would produce a "tune" like "Jingle Bells", based on the sounds of the metal pins hitting the cards.

atreides1

(16,628 posts)
7. Guess what
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:18 AM
Apr 11

None of that money is going to the "warfighters" or their families! It's going towards the Trump tax cuts...

eppur_se_muova

(38,937 posts)
9. Hey, that money is needed for essential multibillion $$$ contracts with Starlink and X !
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:29 AM
Apr 11

And anything else Mush (N-ZA) can think to bill for. (Probably self-driving software for M1A1 tanks. Something to look forward to ?)

Ursus Rex

(362 posts)
10. Amazon is a HUGE IT provider
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:15 PM
Apr 11

Cloud, pro services, etc. They would likely love some of that action, and the DoD is either going to have to do without or look elsewhere to replace those lost vendors.

BumRushDaShow

(151,323 posts)
14. Amazon's AWS already has a significant chunk of of those contracts
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:53 PM
Apr 11

they did with my agency. It would not surprise me if they "cancelled" AWS contracts "in error" after finally figuring out or being told what the hell they were cancelling, and will restore them (but that won't "make the news" ).

JCMach1

(28,621 posts)
15. We are now actively doing shakedowns for $$$ and
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 11:52 AM
Apr 12

Political favors. Bank that's what this is about

Deminpenn

(16,745 posts)
21. Hegseth is a broken clock here. He's right
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:53 AM
Apr 14

All these consulting contracts with Booz Allen, Accenture, Deloitte are ridiculous. They are staffed by retired military and civilians mostly. They add little to nothing to DoD and depend on actual working civil servants to gather information for whatever reports or recommendations they produce. That was my experience during my career at DoD.

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