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SunSeeker

(57,441 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:38 AM Apr 2025

Supreme Court Halts, For Now, New Deportations Under 18th Century Wartime Law

Source: Huffington Post

The Supreme Court on Saturday blocked, for now, the deportations of any Venezuelans held in northern Texas under an 18th century wartime law.

In a brief order, the court directed the Trump administration not to remove Venezuelans held in the Bluebonnet Detention Center “until further order of this court.”

Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented.

The high court acted in an emergency appeal from the American Civil Liberties Union contending that immigration authorities appeared to be moving to restart removals under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.




Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-trump-deportations-aclu_n_6802f1eae4b09556e3202a68

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Supreme Court Halts, For Now, New Deportations Under 18th Century Wartime Law (Original Post) SunSeeker Apr 2025 OP
Let's see if he obeys. sinkingfeeling Apr 2025 #1
I bet Stephen Miller will move them to LA or FL and fly them out of there. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #3
I just saw Aaron Parnas' markodochartaigh Apr 2025 #2
Here is the SCOTUS ORDER LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #4
That order seems to cover everyone, not just those in the Bluebonnet Detention Center. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #8
I don't think it extends nationwide. Moosepoop Apr 2025 #16
"From the United States" tavernier Apr 2025 #18
Right, they cannot be removed from the United States. Moosepoop Apr 2025 #19
Kick orangecrush Apr 2025 #5
"Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented." dchill Apr 2025 #6
Of course. orangecrush Apr 2025 #7
Who is surprised by this LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #9
If we end this nightmare, part of ... pat_k Apr 2025 #12
drumpf will claim only those dissenting opinions count when he ignores the order JoseBalow Apr 2025 #14
Leave it to Slappy and the Sid Caesar wannabe Montauk6 Apr 2025 #15
It was NEVER 9-0 decision!! bluestarone Apr 2025 #17
Preamble to the Constitution reaffirmed as guiding principles for US laws DFW Apr 2025 #10
Of Course CitizenZero Apr 2025 #11
I'm glad they suddenly reacted quickly BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #13
If they are fair, i say block this until bluestarone Apr 2025 #20
'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #21
As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #22

SunSeeker

(57,441 posts)
3. I bet Stephen Miller will move them to LA or FL and fly them out of there.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:48 AM
Apr 2025

They'll argue that SCOTUS order only applies to those in the Bluebonnet Detention Center in TX.

SunSeeker

(57,441 posts)
8. That order seems to cover everyone, not just those in the Bluebonnet Detention Center.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:02 AM
Apr 2025

Stephen Miller will have a hissy fit.

Moosepoop

(2,075 posts)
16. I don't think it extends nationwide.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:55 AM
Apr 2025

The order refers to the "putative class" that has (had) an imminent ruling coming from the 5th Circuit. That would limit it to just those about to be loaded on buses/planes from the Bluebonnet Detention Center.

I could be wrong, but that's how it reads to me.

Moosepoop

(2,075 posts)
19. Right, they cannot be removed from the United States.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:24 AM
Apr 2025

But again, those that are ordered to not be removed are those in the "putative class" -- the 30 or so men who were about to be removed in northern Texas. That's who the emergency filings were about.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
6. "Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented."
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:58 AM
Apr 2025

Of course they did. The Constitution just doesn't sit right with them.

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
12. If we end this nightmare, part of ...
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:28 AM
Apr 2025

redeeming our national soul will be convicting these two for treason.

JoseBalow

(9,088 posts)
14. drumpf will claim only those dissenting opinions count when he ignores the order
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:02 AM
Apr 2025

"If the chief Justice disagrees, then it must be invalid so we can ignore it," or some other such nonsense.

drumpf refuses to be constrained or told what he can't do. He'll concoct the most twisted and convoluted argument to justify his continuing to act with impunity, and his lackeys will all line up and support his bullshit.

He's completely out control, I no longer put anything past him.

bluestarone

(21,066 posts)
17. It was NEVER 9-0 decision!!
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:07 AM
Apr 2025

I will never believe these two ever voted against TSF. NEVER!

DFW

(59,689 posts)
10. Preamble to the Constitution reaffirmed as guiding principles for US laws
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:23 AM
Apr 2025

Thomas, J. and Alito, J., dissenting.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
11. Of Course
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:36 AM
Apr 2025

We are not at war. The Alien Enemies Act only allows deportation of male citizens of an enemy nation during wartime. Again, we are not at war, and certainly not with any Central American country. Only Congress can declare war. The Trump Regime's use of the Act is pretty weak and not legally sound, in my opinion. Of course Thomas and Alito dissent. They are unprincipled right wingers who would bend and break the law to fit their own radical ideology. The Trump Regime doesn't care about the law either, and only use it to cover their heinous policies. Hopefully this will stick and the policy will be stopped.

BumRushDaShow

(165,175 posts)
13. I'm glad they suddenly reacted quickly
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:34 AM
Apr 2025

instead of slow-walking it and glad the ACLU reacted as fast as they did after Boasberg threw up his hands.

But I expect they will ignore it anyway.

bluestarone

(21,066 posts)
20. If they are fair, i say block this until
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:01 PM
Apr 2025

Nov 6th 2028 (set hearing date after next election)

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,319 posts)
21. 'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:44 PM
Apr 2025

This made me laugh. When there is a dissent in ruling like this, the majority normally waits until the dissent is drafted and publishes the dissent with the opinion. Here the 7 justice majority did not wait for Alito's dissent. SCOTUS is tried of trump and did not wait for Alito's dissent

'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling https://twp.ai/4ile7v

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2025-04-19T18:32:35.000Z



https://www.rawstory.com/alito-dissent/

In a series of posts on BlueSky, Slate legal analyst Mark Joseph Stern suggested the majority of justices on the Supreme Court appear to be angry with Donald Trump's administration's attempt to swiftly deport more immigrants in Texas while there are still questions about its legality.

Noting that seven of the nine justices on the conservative-majority court stepped in to stop the Alien Enemies Act rendition flight with an order issued at 1:30 AM, Stern pointed out that Justices Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented but were not given time to publish their reasoning.

As he wrote on BlueSky, "Obviously, a huge victory for the migrants here and a major defeat for Trump’s lawless effort to rush out a rendition flight before the courts could act. But also—potentially a massive signal from the Supreme Court that it is finally prepared to go toe to toe with Trump to halt AEA deportations.".....

In particular, he noted Alito would be publishing his dissent at a later time after that the rest of the court, led by Chief Justice John Roberts, rushed out their ruling without waiting for him.

"It is SO unusual for the Supreme Court to issue an order this late at night and honestly incredible only Thomas and Alito noted their dissents," he wrote before adding, "Also fascinating that SCOTUS rushed out the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent. That basically never happens! Again—majority seems pissed."

Has Alito's dissent come out yet?

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,319 posts)
22. As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows
Sun Apr 20, 2025, 02:55 PM
Apr 2025

The trump DOJ was in the process of deporting a good number of detainees without giving them any real due process. The order from SCOTUS stopped a good number of detainees from being deported.

As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows

At least 28 detainees were placed on buses Friday evening at ICE’s Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, and then driven toward an airport.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...

Lauren Ashley Davis (@laurenmeidasa.bsky.social) 2025-04-20T12:53:22.061Z



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/legal-fight-raged-ice-buses-filled-venezuelans-heading-airport-turned-rcna202007

Video from Friday night shows Immigration and Customs Enforcement buses full of Venezuelan migrants headed toward an airport in North Texas before abruptly turning around before the Supreme Court ruled the Trump administration must, for now, refrain from deporting Venezuelan men based in the state under the Alien Enemies Act.

At least 28 detainees — most, if not all, understood to be Venezuelan nationals — were placed on buses Friday evening at ICE’s Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, and then driven toward Abilene Airport about 30 miles away.

The motorcade — including at least 18 squad cars from various law enforcement agencies with flashing lights along the north Texas highways — left the ICE facility, with some men on board being told they were being deported to El Salvador and some told they were headed to Venezuela, according to the wife of one of the detainees and two lawyers representing other detainees at the facility. Prior to their departure, it was not clear what their destinations would be.

The video, obtained exclusively by NBC News, shows the ICE motorcade pass the airport’s exit and then turn around, looping back to return to the Bluebonnet detention facility.

The Trump administration is seeking to deport the men, who it says are members of the Tren de Aragua gang. It remains unclear whether the government has the authority to apply the Alien Enemies Act to gang members outside of a war situation, and whether adjudications about gang membership are accurate.

The administration has asked the Supreme Court to stop its pause on these would-be deportation flights.
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