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BumRushDaShow

(151,198 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:23 PM Wednesday

Trump administration looking at $5,000 'baby bonus' to incentivize public to have more children

Source: ABC News

April 23, 2025, 1:59 PM


The White House has been fielding proposals aimed at persuading people to marry and have children, an effort being pushed by outside groups focused on increasing the nation's birth rate after years of decline.

One such proposal that has been pitched to White House advisers is a $5,000 "baby bonus" to every American mother after she gives birth. "Sounds like a good idea to me," President Donald Trump said Tuesday when asked about a $5,000 incentive for new mothers.

When asked by ABC News about the proposals the administration has been fielding, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said the president is "proudly implementing policies to uplift American families." "The president wants America to be a country where all children can safely grow up and achieve the American dream. As a mother myself, I am proud to work for a president who is taking significant action to leave a better country for the next generation," Leavitt said.

Sources cautioned that while advisers are considering the ideas, Trump hasn't made a final decision on any of the proposals. A White House official pointed ABC News to the policies Trump has taken so far to help families, specifically citing his executive order aimed at increasing access and affordability for in vitro fertilization, or IVF. The official also cautioned against linking outside proposals to the White House.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-5000-baby-bonus-incentivize-public-children/story?id=121094707



Not said is that they only want white babies because they are certainly removing the brown ones.

And that won't even cover a day in the hospital (which is about how long a woman is kept before being kicked out). And once the baby is here, they drop assistance for anything and everything that would support the family - paid family leave (see the idiocy in Congress fighting against proxy voting for pregnant members), follow-up gynecological and pediatric care, childcare, EITC expansion, (non-voucher) adequate funding for schools, etc.
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Trump administration looking at $5,000 'baby bonus' to incentivize public to have more children (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
Do they know how much it costs to raise a kid? C_U_L8R Wednesday #1
Apparently not................. Lovie777 Wednesday #15
I've seen around $250,000 to raise a kid and send them through college. erronis Wednesday #29
No, it's around $350,000 to get through age 18; $1 million to get through college. SunSeeker Wednesday #39
Well, my daughters (in the 80s) were a lot less expensive. erronis Wednesday #40
That's because during the past 35 years, the real-dollar cost of college has increased by 1,000%. SunSeeker Wednesday #43
$19,444 per year to 18?? LOL! Expensive yes but not $20K per year. Bengus81 Yesterday #80
daycare costs $2400/month here Oliver Bolliver Butt Yesterday #82
People who have not raised a child in the last 10 years have no clue what the costs are. SunSeeker Yesterday #92
Are you counting the cost of healthcare, and birth, of that 1 year old? SunSeeker Yesterday #91
It would only increase births for dimwit parents who can't figure out diddlysquat as you say. Not a great set. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #62
Don't you see, that's exactly what they want. More dimwitted stupid repuq voters! Enter stage left Wednesday #67
I just paid my taxes and I don't want any of it to no_hypocrisy Wednesday #2
+ add that $5000 DOGE check... ultralite001 Wednesday #3
Try BonnieJW Wednesday #4
So that $5,000 claudette Wednesday #5
So that $5,000 MIGHT cover prenatal care and the hospital bill Ponietz Wednesday #24
👍 claudette Wednesday #32
Without insurance, the average cost in 2023 for a vaginal delivery with no complications was $28,655. SunSeeker Wednesday #41
I realized after I posted that $5K would only cover the prenatal care -- thanks for the fact check Ponietz Yesterday #88
It'll pay for his MAGA morons..... SergeStorms Yesterday #98
More insulting nonsense from unserious people in charge at a serious moment,.., Moostache Wednesday #6
We need to create more Brown Shirts & I'll give $5,000 when you do ... aggiesal Wednesday #7
...AND by "public" they mean "Whites Only" FailureToCommunicate Wednesday #8
They want slaves not children LucasD Wednesday #9
Here's five grand to help pay for your quater million dollar delivery fee. twodogsbarking Wednesday #10
In THIS country? NOW? Which is rapidly crumbling to dust and no longer has much of a future? Karasu Wednesday #11
This is being pushed by the christian fundies. travelingthrulife Yesterday #90
This is all musk truthisfreedom Wednesday #12
Ever so dark but funny! wolfie001 Wednesday #17
The Project 2025 loons are also pushing for this not fooled Wednesday #63
does that come with a white et tu Wednesday #13
The color of the baby is of utmost concern.... wolfie001 Wednesday #19
Waddya gonna gimme for my pitbull? JoseBalow Wednesday #14
This wouldn't even cover the delivery nt wolfie001 Wednesday #16
Sure, that will happen Old Testament Libera Wednesday #18
And if you don't get knocked up.............. Lovie777 Wednesday #20
ICE Karma13612 Yesterday #87
In a nation in which prenatal, childbirth, and post-partum care averages $19,000 . . . Journeyman Wednesday #21
LMAO. Cant afford kids given Trump's stagflation Blasphemer Wednesday #22
Taxes Iamscrewed Wednesday #23
Is this different from the current child tax Deminpenn Wednesday #25
Yes BumRushDaShow Wednesday #27
Jesus Christ, these have got to the the dumbest people ever to hold elected office in US history. walkingman Wednesday #26
Nazi authorities created the Lebensborn program... dchill Wednesday #28
I scrolled to find who would know about "Lebensborn" Mira Wednesday #65
Thanks! dchill Wednesday #66
Stalin started and the Soviet Union had medals for mothers too Botany Yesterday #72
drumpf and eloon think that women can be bought for a pittance. greatauntoftriplets Wednesday #30
They think for $5k they can buy a woman AND a child. Sick fucks. nt SunSeeker Yesterday #94
The $5,000 amount is an insult, considering what they're grifting for themselves. greatauntoftriplets Yesterday #99
Yes, it is an insult, considering how much a woman invests in each child. SunSeeker Yesterday #100
Exactly. greatauntoftriplets 22 hrs ago #104
Betcha brown people won't qualify. n/t TygrBright Wednesday #31
$5000 to cover cost of tariffs SupportSanity Wednesday #33
Makes me more pro-choice than ever. Kath2 Wednesday #34
Wait, I thought they hated it when women got pregnant just to get government benefits. tanyev Wednesday #35
Just like Ceausescu. Next comes outlawing all birth control. Scrivener7 Wednesday #36
Ceausescu is a blast from the past! BumRushDaShow Wednesday #38
You'd think we'd be beyond this. Scrivener7 Wednesday #46
"What's old is new again" BumRushDaShow Wednesday #48
Isn't it Funny Ojerly Wednesday #37
One detail left out. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #42
$5.000 will barely cover any pre-natal care for the mother IMHO. riversedge Yesterday #93
"...a country where all children can safely grow up..." Buns_of_Fire Wednesday #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Buns_of_Fire Wednesday #45
How about affordable housing? Squaredeal Wednesday #47
Didn't Putin just offer Russian young women leftyladyfrommo Wednesday #49
Five grand is the square root of sweet bugger nothing love_katz Wednesday #50
ROFL....have they done math on cost of having kids....ever? Maybe times 100 would cover real cost. dutch777 Wednesday #51
It's not about the babies or the women. bucolic_frolic Wednesday #52
maybe just stop trying to kill people. barbtries Wednesday #53
white, and "christian" barbtries Wednesday #54
You know, these masked ICE goons Karma13612 Yesterday #85
So how long before they have moniss Wednesday #55
Paying women to have babies doesn't work. PoindexterOglethorpe Wednesday #56
Wouldn't even pay for an easy pregnancy viva la Wednesday #57
How about ensuring that parents don't ruin their careers and pay levels by taking time off spooky3 Wednesday #58
What a STUPID fucking idea FoxNewsSucks Wednesday #59
Do they send the money EuterpeThelo Wednesday #60
The new meaning of Karma13612 Yesterday #86
Would a baby dog be OK ? chouchou Wednesday #61
Too many people anyway, we don't need more. OverBurn Wednesday #64
For a party who refuses.... Hope22 Yesterday #68
Gee, where did this idea come from?........... blue-wave Yesterday #69
This makes me feel insane Lulu KC Yesterday #70
Sooo, what...$2700 after taxes? Idiots. n/t flvegan Yesterday #71
He won't do it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Yesterday #73
It also occurs to me... jmowreader Yesterday #74
The Duggars approve of the idea. sop Yesterday #75
A drop in the bucket. That won't cover a full time daycare AllyCat Yesterday #76
Cheap bastards! Surrogate mothers would get way more. bucolic_frolic Yesterday #77
GOP wants women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen aeromanKC Yesterday #78
A pittance... homegirl Yesterday #79
unserious offer aimed at unserious people. Javaman Yesterday #81
So, Socialism? mwb970 Yesterday #83
As a law abiding tax payer, Karma13612 Yesterday #84
So we're going to pay money to people to have kids? Ridiculous. travelingthrulife Yesterday #89
Trump looks more like the authoritarian leaders of Russia and China with each passing day. Martin68 Yesterday #95
that doesn't even cover the cost of the birth WhiteTara Yesterday #96
Black or white, America doesn't take care of the children we already have, so why incentive more? nt Jit423 Yesterday #97
More looking glass insanity. I mean, WTF??? ananda Yesterday #101
The Nick Cannon bill. SNL is sure to cover this. twodogsbarking Yesterday #102
Population projections melm00se 22 hrs ago #103
Over $80,000 in birth costs is what I recall reported years back and 1M to raise a kid to adult, so 5000.... Brainfodder 21 hrs ago #105

C_U_L8R

(47,163 posts)
1. Do they know how much it costs to raise a kid?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:28 PM
Wednesday

$5000 ain't diddlysquat. No one is getting uplifted by this dumb PR ploy.

erronis

(19,175 posts)
29. I've seen around $250,000 to raise a kid and send them through college.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:46 PM
Wednesday

Of course these perverts don't care once the fetus is outside of the mother. No help for medical bills, parental leave, childcare, education, healthcare, etc.

SunSeeker

(55,511 posts)
39. No, it's around $350,000 to get through age 18; $1 million to get through college.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:22 PM
Wednesday

As the parent of a son in his 3rd year at UCSD here in California, the $1 million is a low estimate.

And those are 2009 numbers. https://business.time.com/2009/09/18/1-1-million-cost-to-raise-a-child-from-birth-through-college/

erronis

(19,175 posts)
40. Well, my daughters (in the 80s) were a lot less expensive.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:28 PM
Wednesday

One went to a small state (MD) college.

The other put herself through City College of San Francisco for about $60 per credit hour.

My parents paid almost nothing for my college education (which I didn't complete.)

I'm absolutely certain that the value of a degree is much less than it used to be; yet the costs keep rising astronomically.

SunSeeker

(55,511 posts)
43. That's because during the past 35 years, the real-dollar cost of college has increased by 1,000%.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:40 PM
Wednesday

Bengus81

(8,713 posts)
80. $19,444 per year to 18?? LOL! Expensive yes but not $20K per year.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:06 AM
Yesterday

My daughter has a son who will be one year old in mid-May. They have NOT spent $20,000 on him in his first year. That's $385.00 per week.

SunSeeker

(55,511 posts)
92. People who have not raised a child in the last 10 years have no clue what the costs are.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:28 AM
Yesterday

Costs have exploded.

SunSeeker

(55,511 posts)
91. Are you counting the cost of healthcare, and birth, of that 1 year old?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:23 AM
Yesterday

And as the kid gets older, you need a bigger house, that 1 bedroom apartment won't do. And a bigger car too. You'll need an SUV, because that little Corolla hatchback won't cut it for hauling around soccer and camping crap - all of which also costs lots of money. And God help you if your kid gets involved in club sports teams, which will run you $3k-$5k per year. My kid played club soccer since he was 7. Then there's school, toys and electronics, clothes, food, childcare/babysitters and healthcare. And that's assuming your kid is healthy. If your kid is born with a handicap, all bets are off.

As the parent of a 21 year old in college, I can attest that those numbers are pretty accurate for raising a kid in a middle class lifestyle.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,845 posts)
62. It would only increase births for dimwit parents who can't figure out diddlysquat as you say. Not a great set. . nt
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:48 PM
Wednesday

claudette

(5,297 posts)
5. So that $5,000
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:41 PM
Wednesday

Covers about 6 m0nths of the child's life. What about the next 18 years? Morons

SunSeeker

(55,511 posts)
41. Without insurance, the average cost in 2023 for a vaginal delivery with no complications was $28,655.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:30 PM
Wednesday

I'm sure it's much more now.

And who's gonna pay for the childcare or time lost from work?

Ponietz

(3,540 posts)
88. I realized after I posted that $5K would only cover the prenatal care -- thanks for the fact check
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:22 AM
Yesterday

SergeStorms

(19,585 posts)
98. It'll pay for his MAGA morons.....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

trip to Las Vegas where they all turn it into BIG MONEY with their surefire "system" they learned on YouTube. 😉

The child? MAGA granny will take care of the kid while they break the bank in Vegas. Then they'll rely on their local food bank and the church to provide the most basic needs. Voilà! A brand new ignorant MAGAt for the right-wing to brainwash with their "America First" propaganda.

Trouble is, it's a MAGA scheme destined to succeed, considering the sheer magnitude of dumb-shits in the U.S. right now.

Moostache

(10,460 posts)
6. More insulting nonsense from unserious people in charge at a serious moment,..,
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:42 PM
Wednesday

Trump circa 2025 is unquestionably the dumbest man to ever assume the presidency, now actually further dimminished from the previous dumbest man - Trump circa 2017. History will record the damage and the end of the American hemegony that he wrought. The final toll will be immense and last for generations.

I hope the people who voted for this outcome live through all of the aftermath. I hope they suffer. I hope they see their families shredded and their lives destroyed and that they have to tell their children and grandchilden that it was THEIR fault for choosing this mess. I hope they have to lie dying on their death beds and are forced to unburden their souls with the truth, that they must look into the disillusioned and pained eyes of their children and admit: "I did it because the internet memes made me unable to vote of the clearly qualified and superior mental cnadidate because it was 1) a "she" , 2) not white, and 3) the othjer internet tough guys would make fun of me and call me a crass term for vaginas and I lacked the guts to do the right thing.

I hope the dying words of every one of thes miserable scumbag fuckwads is "I'm sorry. I'm so very sorry." as they die watching the faces of their loved ones grimace in horror at them one final time.

aggiesal

(9,956 posts)
7. We need to create more Brown Shirts & I'll give $5,000 when you do ...
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:48 PM
Wednesday

Remember, the $5,000 is only for those eligible to be a Brown Shirt.

We need to breed only the right people.

LucasD

(95 posts)
9. They want slaves not children
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:50 PM
Wednesday

If they really wanted more children born to ensure the future of America, they would stop destroying the economy, invest in PUBLIC education, universities, healthcare, the environment, infrastructure, etc.. You know, everything that ACTUALLY makes a country great.

Instead they're turning the USA into a dystopian nightmare while asking why couples refuse to bring children into the world.

Morons.

twodogsbarking

(13,425 posts)
10. Here's five grand to help pay for your quater million dollar delivery fee.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:57 PM
Wednesday

Witch Dr. Oz said you were too poor for insurance. Don't forget to say thank-you.

Karasu

(991 posts)
11. In THIS country? NOW? Which is rapidly crumbling to dust and no longer has much of a future?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:59 PM
Wednesday

LOL. Give me a fucking break. At this point, you'd have to offer seven figures a year for the rest of my life to even consider it, and on a purely ethical level, I still wouldn't be able to do it.

Personally, I wouldn't wish anyone to be born into the society they are creating.

And what's with these idiots thinking any American can be bribed with one-time payments of $5k, anyway? That's the same number they floated for their fantasy "DOGE checks", too. Fucking clowns.

travelingthrulife

(2,117 posts)
90. This is being pushed by the christian fundies.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:46 AM
Yesterday

They will have too many kids anyway, so the payment is a good deal.

One of my fundie nieces married a guy who is competing with his mother for number of kids birthed. His Mom had 12 so they intend to produce more. It proves they are god's chosen.

truthisfreedom

(23,386 posts)
12. This is all musk
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:00 PM
Wednesday

He’s obsessed with babies.

I can hear Jeffrey Epstein laughing from the grave: “Good one, Donny! Fresh meat!”

not fooled

(6,229 posts)
63. The Project 2025 loons are also pushing for this
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:58 PM
Wednesday

But how will they keep the 5k only for white babies?

18. Sure, that will happen
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:14 PM
Wednesday

We have a friend who told us to expect a $5,000 DOGE check pretty soon.

We'll see that one very soon after all the manufacturing comes back to the US. And when all the bureaucrats are employed putting tiny little screws into
I-phones. So if you go ahead and have a baby, don't hold your breath waiting for the baby check.

Lovie777

(18,089 posts)
20. And if you don't get knocked up..............
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:17 PM
Wednesday

will shithole musk republicans want the 5 thousand plus interest back?

Karma13612

(4,766 posts)
87. ICE
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:20 AM
Yesterday

Under the new Gilead regime, will make sure the woman gets pregnant.

One way or the other, if you catch my drift.

The new mission and meaning of ICE will be

Immigration and Conception Enforcement

Journeyman

(15,311 posts)
21. In a nation in which prenatal, childbirth, and post-partum care averages $19,000 . . .
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:18 PM
Wednesday

that $5,000 will almost take care of the first trimester.

Will Dear Leader grace us with a "Mother's Cross" to signify our contribution to the health of the nation? (Provided, of course, the child meets all the rigid qualification standards -- size, weight, health, color?) Or will these children be conceived under a Lebensborn program, and be raised by the State?

Can't wait to tell my wife about this. We're both crossing the threshold of our 70s this year but maybe we can get an advance on the $5K if we make a Trumpian promise to go through with something we have no intention or capability of doing, just like Dear Leader does on a daily basis.

Blasphemer

(3,429 posts)
22. LMAO. Cant afford kids given Trump's stagflation
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:19 PM
Wednesday

Plus, I agree that he only cares about White babies and we outlawed "Whites Only" laws a long time ago. I wonder if Uncle Clarence would go as far as outlawing himself to please Trump.

Iamscrewed

(121 posts)
23. Taxes
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:23 PM
Wednesday

We already have an overpopulation problem on the planet, taxes on the poor, a desire for cheap labor and increasing need for cannon fodder.

walkingman

(9,115 posts)
26. Jesus Christ, these have got to the the dumbest people ever to hold elected office in US history.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:45 PM
Wednesday

Mira

(22,517 posts)
65. I scrolled to find who would know about "Lebensborn"
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:10 PM
Wednesday

It immediately came to my mind.
Everyone: click the link and see what Trump learned from "Mein Kampf" at the side of his bed.

Botany

(73,926 posts)
72. Stalin started and the Soviet Union had medals for mothers too
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:27 AM
Yesterday


The order of Maternal Glory.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,532 posts)
99. The $5,000 amount is an insult, considering what they're grifting for themselves.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

I assume that it'll be subject to income tax, which will make the real amount even less.

SunSeeker

(55,511 posts)
100. Yes, it is an insult, considering how much a woman invests in each child.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

It suggests that what women put into raising a child is not much.

Kath2

(3,154 posts)
34. Makes me more pro-choice than ever.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:05 PM
Wednesday

After the baby is born, you get your $5,000 and, as always you are on your own. Fuck them.

Ojerly

(94 posts)
37. Isn't it Funny
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:18 PM
Wednesday

the Republicans were constantly harping about "welfare mom's" abusing the system by having "extra" kids to get more money. This is no different as it ain't FAT DonOLD paying for it. It's taxpayers.

Buddyzbuddy

(746 posts)
42. One detail left out.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:35 PM
Wednesday

To combat the centuries of discrimination of white America, the new babies must be white Christian Americans to qualify for the $5,000 and must be named Donald or Donatella.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,372 posts)
44. "...a country where all children can safely grow up..."
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:42 PM
Wednesday

Sure thing, Sparky. Let's discuss the gutting of the FDA (safe food) and your unequivocal support of the Sacred Second Amendment (safe schools).

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

love_katz

(3,001 posts)
50. Five grand is the square root of sweet bugger nothing
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:56 PM
Wednesday

It's just spit in the wind compared to what it actually costs to birth and raise a kid.
Add to the pure hell kind of society that the Christofascists want to create, why would anyone with a caring heart and a functioning brain want to have kids?!?
Any woman with any smarts at all will prefer to participate in the 4B movement, at least until men quit trying to turn us into a real life version of The Handmaid's Tale.
Is A Dick brainless POS can take a flying leap at himself and take the freaking incels with him, preferably to Mars, with no support and no return ticket.

dutch777

(4,310 posts)
51. ROFL....have they done math on cost of having kids....ever? Maybe times 100 would cover real cost.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:02 PM
Wednesday

Pretty sure my 2 1/2 yo granddaughter will go thru $5k of diapers alone. And they seem to need to be fed, clothed, transported, medically treated, entertained, some even educated to a high level. (Although THEY would probably be willing to forego this, especially for the girls).

bucolic_frolic

(49,946 posts)
52. It's not about the babies or the women.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:06 PM
Wednesday

They're trying to convince MAGA men that they can still get laid.

barbtries

(30,348 posts)
53. maybe just stop trying to kill people.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:10 PM
Wednesday

these times are so much worse than interesting. they're truly insane.

Karma13612

(4,766 posts)
85. You know, these masked ICE goons
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:12 AM
Yesterday

Roaming around and rounding up all the “illegal” immigrants?

As we approach Gilead level crap, the new meaning of ICE could simply be:

Immigration and Conception Enforcement.

Same acronym, same uniform, same authoritarianism.

JFC

moniss

(7,103 posts)
55. So how long before they have
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:12 PM
Wednesday

de facto "baby farms" where women who are incarcerated for other things are "offered" the alternative of serving their time making babies? What is really at the heart of this is the White Supremacist theory about being replaced.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,771 posts)
56. Paying women to have babies doesn't work.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:15 PM
Wednesday

It never has. It's been tried before, and does not result in more babies.

Women, the very vast majority of women, don't want as many babies as their bodies can bear. They want one or two or maybe three, and that's enough, thank you very much.

spooky3

(37,374 posts)
58. How about ensuring that parents don't ruin their careers and pay levels by taking time off
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:16 PM
Wednesday

to care for kids? (steps are needed beyond unpaid family leave)

FoxNewsSucks

(11,120 posts)
59. What a STUPID fucking idea
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:21 PM
Wednesday

The world is WAY to damn over crowded as it is. The congestion is overwhelming. We need a much lower birthrate, not more babies. Particularly babies according to some rightwing plan.

And, even though it's been pointed out here, $5k isn't anywhere near the cost of birthing a baby and raising a child to adulthood. Even if everything goes right, which it usually does not.

Hope22

(3,912 posts)
68. For a party who refuses....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:40 AM
Yesterday

Paid maternity leave/ paternity leave, healthcare, the right to chose if her fetus is not viable, the right to chose in any circumstances, access to birth control, subsidized childcare, food for every American, quality education, DEI to ensure equal access to quality jobs……this $5k is of zero consequence. Forcing women into poverty to create children that will have zero future is a laughable venture! Reproduction for cannon fodder is never going to be a marketable concept here!

Lulu KC

(7,861 posts)
70. This makes me feel insane
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:51 AM
Yesterday

Like I want to scream. So many layers of "bad idea" here. Countless layers.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(121,959 posts)
73. He won't do it
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:41 AM
Yesterday

Just like he didn't raise taxes on millionaires while supposedly briefly considering such.

jmowreader

(52,162 posts)
74. It also occurs to me...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:54 AM
Yesterday

...that we don't have enough schools, bed space in Labor, Delivery and Recovery centers, pediatricians, or affordable housing to increase the birth rate much over what it is now.

Then there's the supply of food and water.

Past what the rest of y'all are discussing, all of which are valid, we simply don't have the infrastructure to turn the women of America into serial baby-making machines like Musk wants to do.

sop

(13,813 posts)
75. The Duggars approve of the idea.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:23 AM
Yesterday

Let's see...19 kids X $5,000 comes to 95 grand. Wow, that's almost enough to pay for Josh Duggar's defense lawyer at his child pornography trial.

aeromanKC

(3,637 posts)
78. GOP wants women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:39 AM
Yesterday

They definitely don't want them out in the workforce taking jobs from men and making the men look bad by doing so.

homegirl

(1,709 posts)
79. A pittance...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:41 AM
Yesterday

instead of subsidizing daycare, family leave and the support offered by the Scandinavian Social Democracies!!!

KOMRAD KRAZNOV has never been in touch with reality and, clearly neither are most GOP/MAGA politicians.

The question is "are their supporters so stupid they will buy into this?"

Javaman

(63,663 posts)
81. unserious offer aimed at unserious people.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:31 AM
Yesterday

hoping to shut everyone one up with his "generosity".

Karma13612

(4,766 posts)
84. As a law abiding tax payer,
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:02 AM
Yesterday

I DO NOT support paying parents to have more kids.

No freaking way. I will be as adamant about this as those insufferable anti-abortion activists are about funding for planned parenthood and allowing insurance companies to cover birth control.

travelingthrulife

(2,117 posts)
89. So we're going to pay money to people to have kids? Ridiculous.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:41 AM
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Will only white people qualify? 8 billion people in the world.

Martin68

(25,529 posts)
95. Trump looks more like the authoritarian leaders of Russia and China with each passing day.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:50 AM
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WhiteTara

(30,710 posts)
96. that doesn't even cover the cost of the birth
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:53 AM
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even if it's a normal one. MAGAt math is at it again.

Jit423

(1,243 posts)
97. Black or white, America doesn't take care of the children we already have, so why incentive more? nt
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:05 PM
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ananda

(31,533 posts)
101. More looking glass insanity. I mean, WTF???
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:02 PM
Yesterday

No reproductive or healthcare rights for women, yet wants to
bribe them to get pregnant?

Sheesh

twodogsbarking

(13,425 posts)
102. The Nick Cannon bill. SNL is sure to cover this.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:08 PM
Yesterday

You know there will be guys wanting half the money.

melm00se

(5,099 posts)
103. Population projections
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 04:13 PM
22 hrs ago

The US population forecast, especially with Trump's immigration policies, is headed downward.



They need to figure out a way to grow the population without immigration and this is it.

Brainfodder

(7,193 posts)
105. Over $80,000 in birth costs is what I recall reported years back and 1M to raise a kid to adult, so 5000....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:25 PM
21 hrs ago

Checks out?

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