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speak easy

(11,408 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:47 AM Yesterday

China tells US to 'cancel all unilateral tariffs' if it wants talks

Source: Financial Times

Beijing has called on the US to "completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures" if it wants trade talks, in some of China's strongest comments yet on the impasse between the world's two economic superpowers.

Beijing on Thursday also said there were "currently no economic and trade negotiations between China and the United States", despite recent signs of softening on dispute from Washington. US Treasury secretary Scott Bessent has said in recent days that the trade war is "not sustainable" and "there would have to be a de-escalation by both sides".

"The unilateral tariff measures were initiated by the US," said He Yadong, a Chinese commerce ministry spokesperson. "If the US truly wants to solve the problem, it should completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures against China and find a way to resolve differences through equal dialogue."


Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/3e076fb5-3988-4e21-9119-3fc637afebb8



Hardball.
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China tells US to 'cancel all unilateral tariffs' if it wants talks (Original Post) speak easy Yesterday OP
Holy Cow! lamp_shade Yesterday #1
This: "Heavens to Murgatroyd! Exit stage left!" wolfie001 Yesterday #8
oh, goodness, haven't heard or used that phrase in ages! mwmisses4289 Yesterday #10
Boomer Humor!!! wolfie001 Yesterday #12
I don't think I have ever seen the word 'murgatroyd' spelled out. travelingthrulife 23 hrs ago #27
My mother would say "Heavens to Betsy" lamp_shade 23 hrs ago #29
Betsy was a southern name for a gun IbogaProject 23 hrs ago #39
Here it is MonteSS 23 hrs ago #36
Forgot about that. I used to say that all the time, lol! nt Tadpole Raisin 21 hrs ago #52
You are making me feel old Bluestocking 20 hrs ago #55
Glad I made it to 65! wolfie001 20 hrs ago #57
Love it! oswaldactedalone 12 hrs ago #69
lol wolfie001 12 hrs ago #70
Only thing they could do. Scrivener7 Yesterday #2
And then Miss Piggy came out and threw cold water on that 2 hours later wolfie001 Yesterday #6
Yep. As they've done, what? 5 times in two months? It's like Groundhog Day. Scrivener7 Yesterday #7
I'm thinking they have a buy/sell stocks and bit coin office in the West Wing just manipulating 24/7/365 wolfie001 Yesterday #11
It was likely the plan from the beginning ... Auggie Yesterday #17
Ol' Yam Tits wolfie001 22 hrs ago #47
Saw it here a few days ago Auggie 22 hrs ago #48
Maybe they should try "grow up kraznov" SheltieLover Yesterday #3
China says "Fuck You!" to the insane Turd. Tarzanrock Yesterday #4
I thought Fatso Trump "Held all the cards!" wolfie001 Yesterday #5
Demented Donny has cards - the cards have no value rurallib Yesterday #18
Talking head on Stephanie Ruhle described trumps cards as... Wounded Bear 23 hrs ago #33
Hard Ball xuplate Yesterday #9
Or "The Art of the Deal." Botany Yesterday #13
Xi is playing Art of Get Real Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #63
Lucille Tarzanrock Yesterday #14
They have the cards, he doesn't. dreamland Yesterday #15
They are just stealing money with 'pump and dump' stock tactics.. travelingthrulife 23 hrs ago #30
President Trump says tariffs on China will 'come down substantially' Botany Yesterday #16
Headline will read... Hornedfrog2000 Yesterday #19
That's right Stinky. Bend over and take it. Ray Bruns Yesterday #20
Trump now saying 4catsmom 23 hrs ago #21
CHINA OWNS TRUMP!! Canada Kid 23 hrs ago #22
Agreed! Justice matters. 20 hrs ago #58
Krasnov, you really stepped into it! And you made the same mistake as last time (only worse) Wonder Why 23 hrs ago #23
Good angrychair 23 hrs ago #24
That's the way to deal with a bully radical noodle 23 hrs ago #25
But Trump and his propaganda unit have suggested they are close to a deal! Don't tell me that is BS! Doodley 23 hrs ago #26
Fat Nixon thought he was going to bully China into handing over their lunch money. Ocelot II 23 hrs ago #28
The way all this is going I've been calling him Fat Hoover........... Bengus81 21 hrs ago #51
When It Happens MissouriDem47 1 hr ago #72
but didn't the sociopath say they were talking to China? Hmmm, someone's lying. JohnSJ 23 hrs ago #31
Sad to say, but I'll believe the Chinese before I believe trump... Wounded Bear 23 hrs ago #35
and that is the sad state of affairs we are in, where we cannot tell when the president is lying or JohnSJ 23 hrs ago #38
I've found that if I assume trump is lying, I'm usually right...nt Wounded Bear 23 hrs ago #41
I agree. JohnSJ 23 hrs ago #43
This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ 23 hrs ago #44
Yep, just yesterday Beachnutt 23 hrs ago #37
There used to be a game show called "To Tell The Truth". I guess it should be brought back JohnSJ 23 hrs ago #40
yup and just this morning before this news, they claimed they were close to a deal. Javaman 16 hrs ago #64
The orange genius screwed himself Beachnutt 23 hrs ago #32
China knows hardball. BlueMTexpat 23 hrs ago #34
The only way to deal with this Scalded Nun 23 hrs ago #42
The russian agent orange blinked first and now china has him by his tiny balls. nt ImNotGod 22 hrs ago #45
Looks like Trump put China in the driver's seat .. Bo Zarts 22 hrs ago #46
The orange Mussolini didn't see this coming. republianmushroom 21 hrs ago #49
I mean...did Trump think China was going to fold like those law firms and Media?? Bengus81 21 hrs ago #50
Among the reasons he loves tariffs is that he figures he can spin a victory out of anything unblock 20 hrs ago #54
"he can only bully republicans in congress" speak easy 20 hrs ago #56
So trump can't bully China, can't bully Ukraine, etc. he can only bully republicans in JohnSJ 21 hrs ago #53
CTRL - ALT - DEL : RESET ToxMarz 19 hrs ago #59
China is cutting the legs out from under Trump's market manipulation WSHazel 19 hrs ago #60
This insulting, arrogant shitshow is just fucking embarrassing. And dangerous for our well-being now and in future. n/t Evolve Dammit 18 hrs ago #61
Is China suggesting they would remove some of its tariffs in return ? MichMan 18 hrs ago #62
tomorrow's stock market could a be a very dark day. nt Javaman 16 hrs ago #65
All this chaos makes me feel like our country is going to collapse before the year is out kimbutgar 14 hrs ago #66
China just let Trump know Deminpenn 13 hrs ago #67
Needless to say, this never would have happened if Kamala Harris was President thought crime 13 hrs ago #68
China's not interested in giving him a fig leaf of face-saving. Good for them. (n/t) thesquanderer 10 hrs ago #71

mwmisses4289

(938 posts)
10. oh, goodness, haven't heard or used that phrase in ages!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:42 AM
Yesterday

I think I need to dust it off and start using it more often. Thanks for the reminder, lol. 😃

travelingthrulife

(2,114 posts)
27. I don't think I have ever seen the word 'murgatroyd' spelled out.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:01 AM
23 hrs ago

I used to love that phrase.

IbogaProject

(4,290 posts)
39. Betsy was a southern name for a gun
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:27 AM
23 hrs ago
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/heavens-to-betsy.html

But I only heard that as I know a Betsy. It is a southern thing and while predating it was in use during the civil war.

Scrivener7

(55,460 posts)
2. Only thing they could do.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:53 AM
Yesterday

Financial people are vaunted in our culture as smart, business-savvy people. But those fools were buying again on yesterday's non-news where Mump said there was some mitigation happening.

It shows they're dumber than mud fences.

wolfie001

(4,696 posts)
6. And then Miss Piggy came out and threw cold water on that 2 hours later
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:31 AM
Yesterday

What a shitshow from the "My uncle went to MIT" guy.

wolfie001

(4,696 posts)
11. I'm thinking they have a buy/sell stocks and bit coin office in the West Wing just manipulating 24/7/365
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:43 AM
Yesterday

At this point

Auggie

(32,220 posts)
17. It was likely the plan from the beginning ...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

Ol' Yam Tits might cave, but he'll never admit as much -- he'll say he negotiated a better deal without having achieved anything except making his fellow Kleptocrats even wealthier.

Tarzanrock

(718 posts)
4. China says "Fuck You!" to the insane Turd.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:23 AM
Yesterday

Better act quick, despicable Turd, before you are ignominiously forced to "surrender" on the deck of a Chinese warship in Shanghai harbor.

Wounded Bear

(61,769 posts)
33. Talking head on Stephanie Ruhle described trumps cards as...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:18 AM
23 hrs ago

2, 3, 4, 5, 7 in mismatched suits.

Tarzanrock

(718 posts)
14. Lucille
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:54 AM
Yesterday

… "You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille
With four hungry children and crops in the field
I've had some bad times, lived through some sad times
But this time the hurtin' won't heal
You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille

This is for all you Republican Nazi assholes who voted for the Turd. Enjoy the economic
hardship you voted for in the election.

dreamland

(1,090 posts)
15. They have the cards, he doesn't.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:56 AM
Yesterday

A bully that gets hit back twice as hard. This shit show doesn't have the smarts to run a country, it's just putting on a play for them.

travelingthrulife

(2,114 posts)
30. They are just stealing money with 'pump and dump' stock tactics..
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:03 AM
23 hrs ago

All of them should be in jail for doing this to us.

Hornedfrog2000

(127 posts)
19. Headline will read...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:23 AM
Yesterday

Trump gives China opportunity to make deal.

As he looks weak again and drops the whole tariff thing except against canada, ukraine, our allies, etc. Mission accomplished yet again. He gets some billion dollar kickback and americans lose again as he sell more of our nations power. We are weaker than we have been in probably 120 years.

Ray Bruns

(5,152 posts)
20. That's right Stinky. Bend over and take it.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:34 AM
Yesterday

“The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed”

Confucius

4catsmom

(635 posts)
21. Trump now saying
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:37 AM
23 hrs ago

he's going to go easy on China when in truth, China gave him a swirlie in the gym bathroom. But the cult will believe him.

Canada Kid

(101 posts)
22. CHINA OWNS TRUMP!!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:38 AM
23 hrs ago

China told Trump to fuck off...period. Home Depot, Target, Walmart, and a whole bunch of others told Trump to fuck off...period. The entire American economy runs on products originating from China. If those products no longer comes in from China...that's it. America makes virtually nothing in comparison to what they bring in. No products, no sales, no economy, no country...period. So fuck off with all your stupid tariffs, fuck off with all your stupid policies, fuck off with all your devastating disemboweling of government departments that cripple the American people's ability to live comfortably and safely. in other words...FUCK OFF!

Justice matters.

(8,300 posts)
58. Agreed!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:12 PM
20 hrs ago


Soviet's empty shelves have been forgotten by the absolute morons who voted for the bankrupted convicted felon...

Wonder Why

(5,544 posts)
23. Krasnov, you really stepped into it! And you made the same mistake as last time (only worse)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:39 AM
23 hrs ago

because you tried to take on the world all at once including allies. That left you no friends to support your position.

angrychair

(10,553 posts)
24. Good
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:50 AM
23 hrs ago

I'm not sure an economically dominant China is in the best interest of anyone but the dice is already been rolled on all this and it can't be any worse than the economic terrorism we've used to manipulate the world economy.

Doodley

(10,769 posts)
26. But Trump and his propaganda unit have suggested they are close to a deal! Don't tell me that is BS!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:01 AM
23 hrs ago

Ocelot II

(124,330 posts)
28. Fat Nixon thought he was going to bully China into handing over their lunch money.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:01 AM
23 hrs ago

Instead, China pantsed him, stuffed him in his locker and stole his lunch money.

Bengus81

(8,713 posts)
51. The way all this is going I've been calling him Fat Hoover...........
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 PM
21 hrs ago

Keep fucking things up Trump and we'll see GD v.2.

JohnSJ

(98,477 posts)
38. and that is the sad state of affairs we are in, where we cannot tell when the president is lying or
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:26 AM
23 hrs ago

telling the truth.

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #41)

JohnSJ

(98,477 posts)
40. There used to be a game show called "To Tell The Truth". I guess it should be brought back
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:28 AM
23 hrs ago

with this clown in the WH.



Javaman

(63,662 posts)
64. yup and just this morning before this news, they claimed they were close to a deal.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 04:59 PM
16 hrs ago

more speaking out of their ass and hoping that things will magically work out.

morons.

Beachnutt

(8,667 posts)
32. The orange genius screwed himself
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:15 AM
23 hrs ago

with this hairbrained tariff idea.
World leaders despise him so when he announced his tariff scheme they decided it was their chance to let him hang himself.
If they just hold the line and let the US shelves go bare for a couple of weeks he will be thrown out of office and possibly face more charges.
He started it and now they will finish him. Hopefully.

Scalded Nun

(1,387 posts)
42. The only way to deal with this
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:33 AM
23 hrs ago

Bully pushes, you blacken his eye. You do it in public. You control the narrative and take away the ability for the bully to fabricate a story as to what happened.

Perfect!

Bo Zarts

(25,973 posts)
46. Looks like Trump put China in the driver's seat ..
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:47 AM
22 hrs ago
?


Way to go shit-for-brains. What a pathetic loser. Everything Trump touches dies. Putin must be proud.

Bengus81

(8,713 posts)
50. I mean...did Trump think China was going to fold like those law firms and Media??
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:30 PM
21 hrs ago

You've proved AGAIN what a dipshit you are Trump. China owns YOU asshat,not the other way around.

But hell...keep playing the tariff war game for you sick, demented personality. I don't really care......

unblock

(55,024 posts)
54. Among the reasons he loves tariffs is that he figures he can spin a victory out of anything
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:39 PM
20 hrs ago

He can pick a fight with some other country, then make a deal where we make $4 worth of various concessions in exchange for $1 worth of things he wanted. Terrible deal.

But he can then go to the media and claim victory for the $1 stuff we got. And just ignore the confessions (or call that 'fake news') and strut around as a cosplay master negotiator.

China's not playing into his game for the moment, because they want $8 or $12 worth of concessions for every dollar the concede,, but I expect that's the way this will all be resolved eventually. With a terrible deal for America while Donnie nevertheless claims victory.

speak easy

(11,408 posts)
56. "he can only bully republicans in congress"
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:47 PM
20 hrs ago

easy marks. all performative. they don't believe in anything now, if they ever did.
“It Was All a Lie” - Stuart Stevens.

JohnSJ

(98,477 posts)
53. So trump can't bully China, can't bully Ukraine, etc. he can only bully republicans in
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:36 PM
21 hrs ago

congress, some new organizations, and some law firms it looks like.


WSHazel

(343 posts)
60. China is cutting the legs out from under Trump's market manipulation
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:07 PM
19 hrs ago

If Trump and his minions' primary activity is to manipulate markets for the gain of themselves and their supporters, then making it more difficult to do that is a way for China to hit Trump where it hurts. There is no need to read tea leaves of some closed door meeting Bessent had with donors, if the tariffs are not unilaterally being cut, then there is no pending deal with China.

Evolve Dammit

(20,522 posts)
61. This insulting, arrogant shitshow is just fucking embarrassing. And dangerous for our well-being now and in future. n/t
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:42 PM
18 hrs ago

kimbutgar

(24,902 posts)
66. All this chaos makes me feel like our country is going to collapse before the year is out
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:31 PM
14 hrs ago

And the supply train will be so disrupted it will be hard to repair and get back the trust of other nations we trade with!

The orange Hitler is so demented and he has surrounded himself with so many yes people who don’t know how things really work for the American people !

And I hope I’m wrong but chaos has a way of catching up to people like those in the magaloon administration..

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