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highplainsdem

(55,525 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:54 AM 8 hrs ago

Indiana Republicans take aim at public universities

Source: Axios

Republican lawmakers dismantled several key tenets of the public higher education system, including tenure, with language slipped into the state budget bill at the last minute.

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State of play: Provisions eroding tenure and shared governance — the concept by which governing boards, administrators and faculty members share responsibility for decision-making at higher education institutions — were added to the 215-page bill 24 hours before it was set to be voted on by the Indiana General Assembly.

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The latest: The budget bill passed the House, 66-27, and the Senate, 39-11, a little after midnight.

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"All we've heard is that there was a group of people, who no one can remember their names, that met behind closed doors and decided they're going to tear apart one of the greatest universities in the country," said Rep. Ryan Dvorak, D-South Bend. "I think that's unacceptable."

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Read more: https://www.axios.com/local/indianapolis/2025/04/25/indiana-republicans-public-universities-erode-tenure-shared-governance

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mdbl

(6,279 posts)
1. Getting rid of tenure to make way for the new hires who are graduates of
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:23 AM
8 hrs ago

Dump and Liberty University.

Martin68

(25,537 posts)
3. There's a reason universities have immunity from government intervention in many countries. Politicians have no
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:50 AM
6 hrs ago

qualifications to make judgement regarding how higher eduction should be conducted.

TBF

(35,085 posts)
4. IU-Bloomington is one of the schools that made
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:55 AM
6 hrs ago

my son's shortlist for business. But he wasn't convinced that leaving Texas only to land in Indiana was the best plan. He's going to a big public school in the NE instead. We didn't even know this was going on in the background.

xocetaceans

(4,141 posts)
5. Indiana's legislative body is not known for its level of intellectual achievement. The Indiana House passed...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:06 PM
4 hrs ago

...its famous Pi Bill in 1897 ( but that bill was luckily shelved by the Indiana Senate ) :

At least, they admit their history:



This Week in Indiana History
The Indiana Pi Bill Passes the House:
February 6th, 1897

In 1897, Bill #246, famously known as the Indiana Pi Bill, was introduced and passed by the House unanimously. In it, amateur Mathematician Edwin Goodwin claimed that Pi was not the recognizable 3.14 everyone came to know in grade school, but actually 3.2.

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https://www.in.gov/library/files/Pi_Bill.pdf


Here is a paper on the history connected to that ill-advised bill:



House Bill No. 246 Revisited
Arthur E. Hallerburg
Department of Mathematics
Valparaiso University,
Valparaiso, Indiana 46383

Introduction

In the year 1966 the State of Indiana celebrated the Sesquicentennial of its admission into statehood, and the Indiana Academy of Science joined in this observance with a number of appropriate activities. Among these was a program of invited papers on the history of the various sciences and of mathematics in the state over the 150-year period.

For a small number of persons the association of "Indiana" and "mathematics" immediately brings to mind the true story of the attempt in 1897 of the state legislature to pass a bill establishing a new way of "squaring the circle." In essence the bill would have provided for use in this state a new value of [pi], the "circle number. "But Dr. Will Edington [4], who wrote on the history of mathematics in Indiana for the above observance, did not include reference to this story in his review—and probably rightfully so. For, first of all, the bill was not passed ( parenthetically, nor was it defeated—only "indefinitely postponed" ); second, incorrect or false "mathematics" is not mathematics; and finally, Dr. Edington had already recounted in detail in the 1937 Proceedings of the Academy[3] the action of both the House and the Senate on House Bill 246.

Accounts of circle squarers and angle trisectors have been so common over the centuries that mathematicians customarily pay them no concern. The fact that the mathematical work of E. J. Goodwin, M.D., found its way into the legislative halls and was almost passed into law has set this solution somewhat apart from the rest. The story has been given a brief paragraph in several journals and books on the history and miscellania [sic: miscellanea] of mathematics, and it gives a bit of comic relief to any account of the "history of [pi]." The usual reference notes that the bill actually proposed, in verbose and hidden verbiage, two different values of [pi], first the value of 4, and then 3.2. In 1961 the story was featured in a Sunday Supplement article in the Indianapolis Star Magazine[19]; that account is based largely on Dr. Edington's source material, with the addition of pictures and information concerning some of the legislators involved.

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https://journals.indianapolis.iu.edu/index.php/ias/article/view/8180/8139


Based on that example, Utah's recent banning of the use of fluoride in public water systems, Idaho's recent efforts to limit vaccinations, and a recent Iowa bill to outlaw the use of mRNA vaccines, it should be abundantly clear that legislative bodies should not be in control of universities, their faculties, or anything else that requires debate over actual truth. Legislatures can barely handle political discourse. Marjorie Taylor Greene, "Coach" Tuberville, and Markwayne Mullin are prime examples of that and belong in the pantheon of the barely sentient along with Louie Gohmert, Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, Jason Chaffetz and Dan Quayle.


Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
29 March 2025
...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gmggp2y99o


Idaho Republican pushes ban of mRNA vaccines against COVID, gene therapy products
Updated February 5, 2025

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article299331544.html


Iowa bill would prohibit vaccines unless manufacturer waives liability protections
Mar 5, 2025

https://who13.com/news/politics/iowa-politics/iowa-bill-would-prohibit-vaccines-unless-manufacturer-waives-liability-protections/

Karasu

(996 posts)
6. This crime syndicate of a party has no policy and has no purpose for existence. It is pure retaliation and cruelty for
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:03 PM
3 hrs ago

the sake of it.

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