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BumRushDaShow

(154,268 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:06 PM Jun 4

U.S. judge issues order stopping the deportation of Boulder suspect's family

Source: NBC News/AP

June 4, 2025, 4:55 PM EDT / Source: The Associated Press


BOULDER, Colo. — A federal judge issued an order Wednesday to prevent the deportation of the wife and five children of an Egyptian man charged in the firebombing attack in Boulder, Colorado. U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher granted a request from the family of Mohamed Sabry Soliman to halt deportation proceedings of his wife and five children who were taken into federal custody Tuesday by U.S. immigration officials.

The family members have not been charged in the attack on a group demonstrating for the release of Israeli hostages in Gaza. Soliman faces federal hate crime charges and state charges of attempted murder in the Sunday attack in downtown Boulder. U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said Wednesday that they are being processed for removal proceedings. It’s rare that family members of a person accused of a crime are detained and threatened with deportation.

Soliman’s wife, 18-year-old daughter, two minor sons and two minor daughters all are Egyptian citizens, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement. “We are investigating to what extent his family knew about this heinous attack, if they had knowledge of it, or if they provided support to it,” Noem said in a statement.

Noem also said federal authorities will immediately crack down on people who overstay their visas in response to the Boulder attack. Soliman told authorities that no one, including his family, knew about his planned attack, according to court documents that, at times, spelled his name as “Mohammed.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-judge-issues-order-stopping-deportation-boulder-suspects-family-rcna211043

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SARose

(1,533 posts)
1. Hallelujah
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:10 PM
Jun 4

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Does cosplay Barbie have any evidence his 5 children aided and abetted him?

Arrrggghhhh!

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

Ponietz

(3,883 posts)
2. Explain to me please, why do we want the terrorist's non-citizen family to remain in our country?
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jun 4

Ponietz

(3,883 posts)
5. The grounds for the judge's decision are unclear from the article
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jun 4

Last edited Thu Jun 5, 2025, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

But a 10-minute hearing on whether they overstayed their tourist Visa IS due process. What more do you want?

BTW I’m here because I’m a lifelong Democrat since first voting for Jimmy Carter in 1980.

Eko

(9,368 posts)
6. Uh huh.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jun 4

The Court finds that deportation without process could work irreparable harm and an order must issue without notice due to the urgency this situation presents,” Gallagher wrote in the order issued at 2:01 p.m.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/06/04/boulder-attack-suspect-family-deportation-blocked/

SARose

(1,533 posts)
10. Due process
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jun 4

They are entitled to due process.

They are entitled to legal representation.

They are entitled to an immigration hearing.

We believe in the presumption of innocence, a cornerstone of our entire legal system.

The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee fair trials and prevent individuals from being deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.

Immigrants in this country have rights regardless of their immigration status.

These rights include protection against discrimination, due process, and the right to remain silent. They are also entitled to certain rights under the U.S. Constitution, such as protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, and the right to be with family




hadEnuf

(3,250 posts)
12. Probably because the US isn't supposed to persecute family members
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 10:02 PM
Jun 4

for a relative's crime.

Maybe the family is as surprised as everyone else at what happened, or maybe they're accomplices. That's why we have law enforcement and courts and stuff.

maxsolomon

(36,651 posts)
4. Investigating them is fine. He committed a heinous crime.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jun 4

If their tourist visas/work permits/asylum claims are expired/rejected, then deportation is appropriate. Due process.


onenote

(45,312 posts)
7. He committed a heinous crime. What do we know about the rest of the family's involvement or lack thereof?
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:49 PM
Jun 4

Are we now supporting immediate deportation of every person who may have overstayed their visas without a hearing?

What I read was that the suspect's family was being processed for expedited removal, which would allow authorities to rapidly deport them without a hearing in an immigration court. In other words, without finding out whether they had overstayed their visas, etc. and/or had any involvement in the suspect's attack. Which is why the judge correctly put the process on hold.

maxsolomon

(36,651 posts)
16. as I said. investigation is fine.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jun 5

if they've all (mostly mom, LBH) overstayed tourist visas and their asylum claims have been rejected, then sure, deport. I haven't seen anything that indicates they have or haven't been granted asylum.

madville

(7,752 posts)
8. Isn't the process generally pretty quick
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jun 4

To repatriate people that overstay their tourist, work or student visas?

Do they get special treatment now and get to stay because the husband is a terrorist?

BumRushDaShow

(154,268 posts)
9. There's not enough info in the article
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jun 4

to indicate whether his family overstayed a visa and/or may have had their own work permits (like he did although his expired).

45's loons have been steadily deporting people who "had their papers" and even some who were born and raised here and were citizens.

jgmiller

(566 posts)
11. Has ICE actually stated they are illegal?
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 09:32 PM
Jun 4

I'm fine with investigating them, that's what they do with every family and associate of terror suspects but I have yet to find any details about their status. We found out immediately that his visa expired on March 28th, did theirs? If their visa's haven't expired did they get revoked? If they didn't then how is ICE/DHS holding them?

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OldBaldy1701E

(8,014 posts)
14. Yet another unfinished sentence from the media.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 07:59 AM
Jun 5

"It’s rare that family members of a person accused of a crime are detained and threatened with deportation."

....outside of a fascist regime or dictatorship.

We really need to remember who these milquetoast reporters and news outlets are when this is all over. It is insulting to think they are not aware of what they are doing (and not doing).

BumRushDaShow

(154,268 posts)
15. They are probably trying to avoid phony defamation suits from 45
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jun 5

since the outlets they work for are cowards, would fire them in a minute, would quickly capitulate, and would attempt to settle.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,014 posts)
17. Then, they must be making some bank.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:32 PM
Jun 5

Any independent news agency could write their own ticket these days. But, that would require some effort.

So, I guess the preferred course of action is 'lazy and making money'. The American Dream in action.

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