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LetMyPeopleVote

(164,412 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:33 PM 9 hrs ago

Trump asks the Supreme Court to neutralize the Convention Against Torture

Source: VOX

Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.

Federal law states that the United States shall not “expel, extradite, or otherwise effect the involuntary return of any person to a country in which there are substantial grounds for believing the person would be in danger of being subjected to torture.” This law implements a treaty, known as the Convention Against Torture, which the United States ratified more than three decades ago.

Federal regulations, moreover, provide that even after an immigration judge has determined that a noncitizen may be deported to another country, that judge’s order “shall not be executed in circumstances that would violate Article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture.” And those regulations also establish a process that immigrants can use to raise concerns with an immigration judge that they may be tortured if sent to a specific country.

The Trump administration, however, claims it has discovered a loophole that renders all of these legal protections worthless, and is now asking the Supreme Court to explicitly give it the authority to make use of that loophole in order to enact its immigration policies.

According to President Donald Trump’s lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country — even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.

Department of Homeland Security v. D.V.D., the case where the Trump administration asks the justices to neutralize the Convention Against Torture, is unlike some of the more high-profile deportation cases that reached the Supreme Court — such as the unlawful deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador — in that no one really questions that the immigrants at the heart of this case may be deported somewhere.

Read more: https://www.vox.com/scotus/416163/trump-supreme-court-deport-immigration-convention-torture



Trump asks the Supreme Court to neutralize the Convention Against Torture www.vox.com/scotus/41616...

Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser.bsky.social) 2025-06-09T22:49:49.676Z
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Trump asks the Supreme Court to neutralize the Convention Against Torture (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago OP
Wow hildegaard28 9 hrs ago #1
I know. I'm going, seriously? ananda 8 hrs ago #5
I never would have imaged a US president requesting this abomination. sinkingfeeling 9 hrs ago #2
That's how I felt when we started doing all this torture under Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. slightlv 6 hrs ago #13
Among the cruelest actions they want nt duhneece 8 hrs ago #3
Darker shades of Bush and AG Alberto Gonzales. republianmushroom 8 hrs ago #4
And Dick Cheney. ananda 8 hrs ago #6
Never forget Bush and Cheney hand in this. republianmushroom 8 hrs ago #7
Never forget that Cheney The Dick made $39.5B from his BS no-bid contracts in his two BS wars of aggression. OMGWTF 6 hrs ago #14
Color me not the least bit surprised or shocked. Solly Mack 8 hrs ago #8
W T F . uppityperson 8 hrs ago #9
They are delightfully charming people, aren't they? Kablooie 7 hrs ago #10
Of course he did. Trump is trying to create a full-blown totalitarian dictatorship. Martin68 7 hrs ago #11
Sick mofos. All of 'em. OMGWTF 6 hrs ago #12
Utterly disgusting karin_sj 6 hrs ago #15
Why the fuck doesn't he just die already? Orrex 4 hrs ago #16
Really, I'm done angrychair 3 hrs ago #17
I mean, we don't adhere to a lot of human rights treaties... róisín_dubh 35 min ago #18

slightlv

(5,719 posts)
13. That's how I felt when we started doing all this torture under Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:03 PM
6 hrs ago

I still believe they should be tried for war crimes. Trump isn't even using the illusion of war to justify his sadistic desire. And I don't doubt for a minute these "techniques" will be turned against American Citizens sooner rather than later. And we must insist on a Truth and Reconciliation committee when we finally get him out of the WH. Him, and his nazi friends.

OMGWTF

(4,756 posts)
14. Never forget that Cheney The Dick made $39.5B from his BS no-bid contracts in his two BS wars of aggression.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:06 PM
6 hrs ago

That this mofo and his puppet GeeDumbya escaped a trial in The Hague for war crimes is a travesty.

Kablooie

(18,910 posts)
10. They are delightfully charming people, aren't they?
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 09:42 PM
7 hrs ago

Watch the Stepford SCOTUS give him the power to Hitlerize everything in the US.

angrychair

(10,695 posts)
17. Really, I'm done
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:05 AM
3 hrs ago

This is fucking insane. I mean batshit crazy fucking insane.
This asshole is literally asking for the ability to torture people or have them tortured in another country. What the hell is going on. This is not the world I hoped for as a kid. Literally the opposite. I am at a total loss for words.

róisín_dubh

(12,027 posts)
18. I mean, we don't adhere to a lot of human rights treaties...
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:23 AM
35 min ago

so why stop with this one (just in case)
For fucks sake this is nightmare fuel and will basically negate any of the country conditions reports I do for asylum seekers (many of them invoke the CAT in their asylum claims and rightly so).
Jesus fucking christ on a motorbike.

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