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BumRushDaShow

(154,273 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:03 PM Tuesday

New Jersey and Delaware among 16 states suing U.S. gov't over deal ending ban on triggers

Source: WHYY Philadelphia, PA/AP

June 10, 2025


Sixteen states have sued the Trump administration over its plan to allow the sale of forced-reset triggers that make semiautomatic rifles fire more rapidly and return devices already seized to their owners. The suit announced Monday argues that returning the triggers would violate federal law, pose a threat to residents and law enforcement and worsen gun violence. It was filed in federal court in Maryland.

There had been several legal battles over the devices, which replace the typical trigger on an AR-15-style rifle. The Biden administration had previously argued the triggers qualify as machine guns under federal law because constant finger pressure on the triggers will keep a rifle firing, essentially creating an illegal machine gun.

Rare Breed Triggers, the maker of the devices, had argued that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was wrong in its classification and ignored demands to stop selling the triggers before being sued by the Biden administration. The Justice Department reached a deal announced last month with Rare Breed Triggers to allow the sale of forced-reset triggers with (sic). The company was previously represented by David Warrington, Trump’s current White House counsel.

Under the settlement, Rare Breed Triggers agreed not to develop such devices to be used on handguns, according to the Justice Department. The settlement requires the ATF to return triggers that it had seized or that owners had voluntarily surrendered to the government.

Read more: https://whyy.org/articles/nj-del-gun-control-lawsuit-triggers/



Full headline: New Jersey and Delaware among 16 states suing U.S. gov’t over deal ending ban on triggers that make some rifles fire more rapidly

Link to COMPLAINT (PDF) - https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/new-jersey-v-bondi.pdf

This story was deep-sixed on the major news sites yesterday and are mostly coming up on a search today as published yesterday.
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New Jersey and Delaware among 16 states suing U.S. gov't over deal ending ban on triggers (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Tuesday OP
The blame rests with Congress, as usual, in its ongoing failure to effectively regulate firearms and firearm parts. J_William_Ryan Tuesday #1
From what I saw they are not illegal under Federal law. thatdemguy Tuesday #2
This suit isn't about bump stocks BumRushDaShow Tuesday #3
No but it clarified what is a machine gun. And that does apply to frt triggers thatdemguy Wednesday #4

J_William_Ryan

(2,783 posts)
1. The blame rests with Congress, as usual, in its ongoing failure to effectively regulate firearms and firearm parts.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:24 PM
Tuesday

The ATF should be enforcing those regulations, not attempting to create them.

thatdemguy

(596 posts)
2. From what I saw they are not illegal under Federal law.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:05 PM
Tuesday

The bump stock case that went before the Scotus said the machine gun law is defined as as one pull of the trigger and more than one bullet comes out. Bump stocks cause the trigger to reset every time the gun fires, aka one pull of the trigger one bullet. The ATF basically agreed that the triggers meet the same definition so they are legal by fed law. In Maryland we have banned them, so they are illegal here. This case will be a waste of time. If they are going to banned federally it will have to be done by congress and lawsuits will do nothing.

And I have seen videos of them shooting, while it does look like full auto. I dont see how anyone can really afford to shoot 20 dollars of ammo in a second. So it just seems like a money to noise device with no real use. Yes I know the guy in las vagas used one, but for what he did he could have used a battery drill.

BumRushDaShow

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3. This suit isn't about bump stocks
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:49 PM
Tuesday

which are used for rifles/"long guns".




These are mechanisms used for both but probably mostly handguns -



thatdemguy

(596 posts)
4. No but it clarified what is a machine gun. And that does apply to frt triggers
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 03:16 PM
Wednesday

Both require the the trigger to be pressed again to fire a second bullet. Probably the best definition is a full auto simulator, but still not a full auto as defined in the law.

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