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BumRushDaShow

(162,423 posts)
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:04 PM Oct 12

Trump appears to forget that Jan 6 happened on his watch as he blames Biden in late-night screed: 'What a SCAM!'

Source: The Independent

Sunday 12 October 2025 15:41 BST


Donald Trump leaned into fiction on Saturday evening as he blamed Joe Biden for events that happened while Trump was still president and angrily insisted that the FBI was in on a conspiracy to make his followers look bad on January 6, 2021.

The president’s allies in Congress have often been dinged by the press for erroneously attacking the Biden administration for events that transpired in 2020 and the start of 2021, such as Sen. Jim Banks — who just last week wrongly insisted that the 2020 U.S. Census was “prepared by the Biden administration”. Other Republicans, in their zeal to attack Democrats and support calls for a new census, have similarly forgotten who was president that year.

But now Trump himself is doing it. In a Truth Social post Saturday evening, he claimed in all-caps that “the Biden FBI” supposedly “placed 274 agents into the crowd on January 6”. “What a SCAM - DO SOMETHING!!! President DJT”, the post concluded.

Obviously, the “Biden FBI” did not exist on January 6, nor did it exist in any of the weeks or months leading up to the attack on the Capitol, when dozens of police officers were injured responding to a violent mob numbering in the thousands as rioters stormed barricades, shattered windows, defaced the hallways of the Capitol complex and battled with law enforcement around the grounds.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-fbi-jan-6-post-b2843973.html

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Trump appears to forget that Jan 6 happened on his watch as he blames Biden in late-night screed: 'What a SCAM!' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 12 OP
Orange Bastard is a stupid motherfucker SoFlaBro Oct 12 #1
His theory: Biden sent tRump's FBI to turn weak-minded maga manly men to block Biden from becoming President. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #2
His dementia is a national security issue. Irish_Dem Oct 12 #3
+100 sakabatou Oct 12 #6
I was terrified when I first realized that we were stuck with him again because of the "nuclear football!" Rhiannon12866 Oct 12 #15
The Dead Zone 2na fisherman Oct 13 #20
It looks to me like he's certainly trying to destroy the entire country out of spite Rhiannon12866 Oct 13 #21
Cutting off his nose to spite the worlds' face. BattleRow Oct 13 #42
I am assuming the military has more sense and will not let Trump start a nuclear war. Irish_Dem Oct 13 #24
So right kkmarie Oct 13 #25
His dementia adds to the national secuirty issue that has existed because of his total lack of morality Attilatheblond Oct 12 #18
A psychopath with dementia is not fit to work at any job. Irish_Dem Oct 13 #23
He doesn't have dementia; just normal decline. This is intentional deception. thought crime Oct 13 #37
It is difficult to ascertain the lies from his cognitive slippage. Irish_Dem Oct 13 #40
v. confused. GopherGal Oct 12 #4
Whichever direction the wind blows at the time marks which Democrat is at fault. AZLD4Candidate Oct 12 #8
"leaned into the fiction" Is that what we call lying these days? travelingthrulife Oct 12 #5
Same as the old "alternative facts". Permanut Oct 12 #13
He didnt lean..he has willfully descended down into the depths of deceit. BattleRow Oct 13 #43
Sure. Why not. Most MAGAs think 9/11 happened on Obama's watch. progressoid Oct 12 #7
... trusty elf Oct 13 #26
LoL. And Sara Palin said Obama is a Socialist who conspires with the Big Banks. thought crime Oct 13 #38
Palin seems like a Rhodes Scholar compared to some of these people. progressoid Oct 13 #39
He didn't forget his supporters are just that stupid nycbos Oct 12 #9
Republicans haven't "forgotten" who was president in 2020. Martin Eden Oct 12 #10
Trump''s words are the words of god --so say his supporters!! riversedge Oct 13 #27
In the story of the Ten Commandments Martin Eden Oct 13 #28
Not remembering recent history and restructuring it to suit your own 'feels' Aussie105 Oct 12 #11
And of course, we hear this from the BRITISH press. Wednesdays Oct 12 #12
His supporters are that stupid IronLionZion Oct 12 #14
Owning the libs is the only thing they want in their pathetic life. Justice matters. Oct 13 #22
Insanity Quote Bayard Oct 12 #16
Religious conman/scam artist Pat Robertson used to blame Bill Clinton for the Ruby Ridge incident, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Oct 12 #17
Fucking demented asshole. dalton99a Oct 13 #19
Mr Gaslight has no memory... mdbl Oct 13 #29
trump's senility is showing LetMyPeopleVote Oct 13 #30
I've always laughed in the face of MAGAs I've talked to that suggested that a handful of Antifa or FBI agents... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 13 #31
Steve Benen- (The "Biden FBI" didn't exist on Jan. 6. Trump was president at the time.) LetMyPeopleVote Oct 13 #32
45 didn't even bother to show up for Biden's Inauguration on January 20, 2021 but at least Pence-fly did. BumRushDaShow Oct 13 #34
Dude said there were airports during the Revoultionary War. twodogsbarking Oct 13 #33
Hey, gutless independent "LIE" is the word. LIE!!! LIE !!! LIE!!! NOT the niyad Oct 13 #35
This country is being led by a malevolent Bluto Blutarsky Zorro Oct 13 #36
Criminal pedofelon did not "forget" that. He keeps repeating his big lie. Justice matters. Oct 13 #41

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,866 posts)
2. His theory: Biden sent tRump's FBI to turn weak-minded maga manly men to block Biden from becoming President.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:27 PM
Oct 12

It continues: Biden was a mastermind organizing this vast conspiracy and accomplishing it secretly. All this but he was supposedly incompetent to be President.

Irish_Dem

(76,936 posts)
3. His dementia is a national security issue.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:37 PM
Oct 12

This man is not someone who can be briefed on sensitive, complicated security issues.
And he is not capable of making reasonable logical decisions.

Rhiannon12866

(245,891 posts)
15. I was terrified when I first realized that we were stuck with him again because of the "nuclear football!"
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:51 PM
Oct 12

Who knows what this demented revenge-obsessed nut job will do just out of spite!!!

2na fisherman

(142 posts)
20. The Dead Zone
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 01:09 AM
Oct 13

Me too. When he was elected the first time, I said to myself, he's gonna' kill us all. And as he becomes even more demented, I can see him forcing some general to assist him in launching a nuclear strike triggering World War III. But there may not be that saving plot twist as in The Dead Zone when the Christopher Walken character has the psychic view of the Presidential candidate holding up a child to shield himself from his failed assassination attempt. He touches his hand before he dies having had this vision of that cowardly act ending his political career. But Trump has shown us that he would indeed use a child as a shield and be proud of it. It has been said that he wanted to use "nukes" to move the path of a hurricane or to drop one on Iran's nuclear facility if the bunker buster didn't do the job. And as his delusional world begins to crumble, it seem as though he would seek to launch some on the people who reject him and destroy the entire country out of spite.

Rhiannon12866

(245,891 posts)
21. It looks to me like he's certainly trying to destroy the entire country out of spite
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 01:41 AM
Oct 13

He has no clue what's in the Constitution since he doesn't read, nor does he care. He's running what was the most influential country in the world like it's one of his personal businesses, cheating and conniving, and we know what happened with his businesses, 6 bankruptcies, and the idiotic way he's throwing money around it's a distinct possibility that we'll end up with the same result.

Not to mention, he hasn't kept one campaign promise, like making groceries more affordable, which was a reason that people voted for him. Instead, he has these looney ideas, like his tariffs, which he doesn't understand, but since he considers himself the CEO, he's unwilling to listen to anyone. And it doesn't help that he's surrounded himself with sycophants and the Republicans in Congress are afraid to go against him since they know his penchant for revenge.

I don't know how this governmental debacle is going to turn out, but it's only been a few months into a long four years, he's turned our historical allies into enemies and is dedicated to following an authoritarian playbook that he lied about, saying he'd never heard of it - and no one trusts us anymore which we should have been prepared for since he lies every time he speaks.

Then there's the 34 felonies and his attempt to overthrow the government when he lost in 2020. Wasn't that enough evidence that he was the last person who should be given a second chance??

kkmarie

(332 posts)
25. So right
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:46 AM
Oct 13

I think he can't wait to nuke somewhere. That's why deploying US troops to Gaza is scary to me. Will their presence trigger Hamas? Then what will our Department of WAR do? If the Epstein files are getting closer to being released will Krasnov nuke Gaza?

Ministry of Peace (Minipax): In charge of war and the nation's armed forces, maintaining a constant state of conflict to distract the population.


#EpsteinFiles
#HomanFiles

Attilatheblond

(7,600 posts)
18. His dementia adds to the national secuirty issue that has existed because of his total lack of morality
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:16 PM
Oct 12

Irish_Dem

(76,936 posts)
23. A psychopath with dementia is not fit to work at any job.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:24 AM
Oct 13

Maybe sweeping prison floors under strict supervision.

thought crime

(937 posts)
37. He doesn't have dementia; just normal decline. This is intentional deception.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 12:35 PM
Oct 13

It should be pretty obvious by now that Trump spews lies to manipulate his supporters. This is his "leadership style" and it is right from the Nazi playbook. For Trump, the 2020 election, his conspiracy to overthrow it, and Jan 6 are inconvenient truths. So he rewrote the truth with his own false narrative.

GopherGal

(2,668 posts)
4. v. confused.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:38 PM
Oct 12

I thought it was all Pelosi's fault.

Too many different stories. I can't keep 'em all straight.

thought crime

(937 posts)
38. LoL. And Sara Palin said Obama is a Socialist who conspires with the Big Banks.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 12:44 PM
Oct 13

And they totally believe it.

progressoid

(52,232 posts)
39. Palin seems like a Rhodes Scholar compared to some of these people.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 02:06 PM
Oct 13

Fuck. We're living a version of Idiocrasy,

Martin Eden

(15,066 posts)
10. Republicans haven't "forgotten" who was president in 2020.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:05 PM
Oct 12

They are deliberately LYING because they know their voters routinely swallow lies. Fer Chrissake, they believe Trump "tells it like it is."

Martin Eden

(15,066 posts)
28. In the story of the Ten Commandments
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 06:44 AM
Oct 13

They would have worshipped the Golden Calf.

Now it's an Orange Ass.

Aussie105

(7,335 posts)
11. Not remembering recent history and restructuring it to suit your own 'feels'
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:08 PM
Oct 12

is a classic sign of quite a few mental disorders.

There is plenty of footage showing Trump stirring up the crowd on the day, all he needs to do is his research.
But that is best avoided, right, Trump?

25 him, someone!

IronLionZion

(50,200 posts)
14. His supporters are that stupid
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:38 PM
Oct 12

Interesting how many of the arrested people were Trump supporters with sufficient evidence to be convicted in trials and get prison time. And then Trump blanket pardoned them all. Were they part of the conspiracy too? Were they FBI agents?



Dude has dementia. But his supporters are apparently into it.

Justice matters.

(9,044 posts)
22. Owning the libs is the only thing they want in their pathetic life.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 02:16 AM
Oct 13

And if owning the libs ends up killing them, they don't care or they're not intelligent enough to see their own fate coming.

Bayard

(27,579 posts)
16. Insanity Quote
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:59 PM
Oct 12

"You never know how [Donald Trump] is going to react. When he learned for example that he'd lost the election by about three million votes, his instant reaction was insanity; you know, three to five million illegal immigrants somehow were organized in some incredible fashion to vote."

Noam Chomsky

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,402 posts)
17. Religious conman/scam artist Pat Robertson used to blame Bill Clinton for the Ruby Ridge incident,
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:07 PM
Oct 12

which actually took place during George 'Pappy' Bush's presidency in August 1992. Trump lies like Robertson.

Ol Janx Spirit

(457 posts)
31. I've always laughed in the face of MAGAs I've talked to that suggested that a handful of Antifa or FBI agents...
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 09:45 AM
Oct 13

...could manipulate a crowd of many thousands of MAGA supporters to attack police offices and the US Capitol building while chanting, "hang Mike Pence!"

They would really rather say they were so weak that they were somehow goaded into these heinous actions by provocateurs than to admit personal responsibility? And here I thought "personal responsibility" was a big part of their philosophy. It's funny how they never seem to take any--I guess that is for everyone else.

But I do relish in the embarrassment most of them feel by the end of the conversation that they even went down that road of utter weakness in the first place. Inevitably they change the subject to trans boys in girls' sports--because ever actually admitting you were wrong is not part of their psyche.

So sure, go with the story that a handful of FBI agents that Biden brought in over four years earlier in anticipation that somewhere along the line they would be in place to embarrass a MAGA mob by encouraging them to violently assault the US Capitol (or maybe something else) and hang the sitting vice president if that's what it takes to make you sleep better at night. It's probably a lot easier than believing you are in a violent cult that ignores reality in service of a selfish ideology led by one of the worst human beings to ever exist.

LetMyPeopleVote

(171,960 posts)
32. Steve Benen- (The "Biden FBI" didn't exist on Jan. 6. Trump was president at the time.)
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:03 AM
Oct 13

A few days ago, I wrote up a piece on Republicans routinely forgetting when Biden took office and how the problem seems to be getting worse: tinyurl.com/3bdxp3te

I suddenly wish I’d held off a few more days. (The “Biden FBI” didn’t exist on Jan. 6. Trump was president at the time.)

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-12T12:18:37.434Z

BumRushDaShow

(162,423 posts)
34. 45 didn't even bother to show up for Biden's Inauguration on January 20, 2021 but at least Pence-fly did.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:58 AM
Oct 13

He took his classified docs and other government-owned property that did not belong to him, and slinked back to FL.

niyad

(128,140 posts)
35. Hey, gutless independent "LIE" is the word. LIE!!! LIE !!! LIE!!! NOT the
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 12:15 PM
Oct 13

gutless, cowardly "leaned into fiction". LIE!!! LIE!!! LIE!!!

Justice matters.

(9,044 posts)
41. Criminal pedofelon did not "forget" that. He keeps repeating his big lie.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:16 PM
Oct 13

Hoping it will keep him out of "troubles" like all his lifelong lies have kept him out of jail so far.

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