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BumRushDaShow

(162,468 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:06 PM Oct 14

Trump threatens China with cooking oil embargo over soybean snub

Source: CNBC

Published Tue, Oct 14 2025 3:54 PM EDT Updated 4 Min Ago


President Donald Trump on Tuesday said his administration is considering “terminating business with China having to do with Cooking Oil” in retaliation for Beijing refusing to buy U.S. soybeans.

China is committing an “Economically Hostile Act” by “purposefully not buying our Soybeans, and causing difficulty for our Soybean Farmers,” Trump said in a Truth Social post.

Ending business with China on cooking oil and “other elements of Trade” are possible forms of “retribution” that Trump said he was weighing. “As an example, we can easily produce Cooking Oil ourselves, we don’t need to purchase it from China,” he wrote.

China has been the top buyer of U.S. soybeans by far, importing some 27 million metric tons valued at nearly $12.8 billion in 2024 alone. But amid a simmering trade war with the Trump administration, Beijing has not bought a single American soybean since May.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/14/trump-china-soybean-cooking-oil.html



It's exhausting dealing with an insane man and the lunatics that prop him up. Meanwhile we're the laughing stock of the world.

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Published Tue, Oct 14 2025 3:54 PM EDT Updated 11 Min Ago


President Donald Trump on Tuesday said his administration is considering "terminating business with China having to do with Cooking Oil" in retaliation for Beijing refusing to buy U.S. soybeans.

Trump said he believes China is committing an "Economically Hostile Act" by "purposefully not buying our Soybeans, and causing difficulty for our Soybean Farmers."

Ending business with China on cooking oil and "other elements of Trade" are possible forms of "retribution" Trump is weighing, he said in a Truth Social post. "As an example, we can easily produce Cooking Oil ourselves, we don't need to purchase it from China," he wrote.

The president's latest criticism follows a recent spate of critical remarks he has made about China, raising questions about the status of ongoing trade talks and sending stocks careening up and down.



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Published Tue, Oct 14 2025 3:54 PM EDT Updated 5 Min Ago


President Donald Trump on Tuesday said his administration is considering "terminating business with China having to do with Cooking Oil" in retaliation for Beijing refusing to buy U.S. soybeans.

Trump said he believes China is committing an "Economically Hostile Act" by "purposefully not buying our Soybeans, and causing difficulty for our Soybean Farmers."

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Trump threatens China with cooking oil embargo over soybean snub (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 14 OP
Canada grows a hell of a lot of Canola get the red out Oct 14 #1
Down goes corn! BidenRocks Oct 14 #2
Yeah, not only destroying the soybean commodity zorbasd Oct 14 #30
Brazil's soybean farmers are loving Mr. trump this year Torchlight Oct 14 #3
Maybe supermarkets will start to sell soybean oil here Warpy Oct 14 #4
Believe it or not BumRushDaShow Oct 14 #5
I know there is tremendous fraud around stuff labeled "olive oil." Warpy Oct 14 #11
Yup BumRushDaShow Oct 14 #12
Which is why the EVOO I buy is single-sourced. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 14 #28
I mostly use California Olive Ranch BumRushDaShow Oct 15 #34
Peanut butter does not need canola oil. It has peanut oil already inside, a competitor to canola oil. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #17
I agree, and that's the kind of peanut butter I get when it's in stock Warpy Oct 14 #19
Thanks. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #20
Sounds like what my spouse has to deal with coconut progressoid Oct 15 #36
Gag me with a spoon, Donnie! ProudMNDemocrat Oct 14 #6
I guess they'll have to step up mining their sewers for it then JoseBalow Oct 14 #7
I refuse to by any food or food product from China. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #18
Same here. If it's from China, I'm definitely not eating it. JoseBalow Oct 14 #22
Bad enough dealing with US food producers. E Coli anyone? paleotn Oct 14 #23
I'll pass lonely bird Oct 15 #35
Like tariffs aren't economically hostile? nilram Oct 14 #8
Proving yet again, he doesn't have a clue. China imports cooking oil and exports used cooking oil (UCO) to US. sinkingfeeling Oct 14 #9
It does not seem like a big dollar volume any way, maybe $2 billion Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #15
China only sells us used cooking oil. Under The Radar Oct 14 #10
Working together might help. Too far of a "left wing radical nut job" of an idea though. twodogsbarking Oct 14 #13
LOL. That'll show em. ananda Oct 14 #14
last i checked there are other sources for cooking oil moonshinegnomie Oct 14 #16
Global commodities. Lots of suppliers around the globe. paleotn Oct 14 #25
I'm sure they're shaking in their boots Donny Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 14 #21
That's really not going to hurt them, you dolt. paleotn Oct 14 #24
Getting increasingly desperate on this soybean thing Prairie Gates Oct 14 #26
Used cooking oil is imported from China to make supposedly "green" fuels like biodiesel. hunter Oct 14 #27
Exhausting is the word! ReRe Oct 14 #29
Yea, that will do it, I bet they're just shaking in their boots. Angleae Oct 14 #31
Can we please fire his worthless ass already??? Initech Oct 15 #32
I cannot fucking believe this FUCKING ASSCLOWN is PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES Skittles Oct 15 #33
Um, Donnie lonely bird Oct 15 #37

zorbasd

(494 posts)
30. Yeah, not only destroying the soybean commodity
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:32 PM
Oct 14

growers, but also electing to destroy the corn commodity growers as well....this fascist regime is effing clueless, and utterly stupid...cut your nose off to spite your face stupidity....just do it morons, so the other morons can vote you in again.

Torchlight

(6,021 posts)
3. Brazil's soybean farmers are loving Mr. trump this year
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:35 PM
Oct 14

Indonesia and Malaysia's palm oils industries may get the next big payouts from trump's troubled tariff tangle... all done at the expense of working Americans.

Warpy

(114,122 posts)
4. Maybe supermarkets will start to sell soybean oil here
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:41 PM
Oct 14

instead of that nasty ass canola oil that makes me sick as hell and which seems to be shoved into everything these days because it's cheap.

The only other oil my local market had a few months ago was peanut and I've been using the stuff very sparingly. Olive oil is great when I want that olive flavor. Canola oil = death.

Cheaper soybean oil might drive canola oil out of things like peanut butter and I would be deeply grateful for that.

BumRushDaShow

(162,468 posts)
5. Believe it or not
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Oct 14

there are adulterated vegetable oils labeled as "Corn Oil" or "Peanut Oil" or even (any grade of) "Olive Oil", that are actually blended with soy oil. Lots of fraud out there.

Warpy

(114,122 posts)
11. I know there is tremendous fraud around stuff labeled "olive oil."
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:27 PM
Oct 14

and I read somewhere that the fancier the bottle and more twee the label, the greater the chances it's at least 50% something else with food coloring. The same article cited the big producers as having the highest proportion of actual olive oil, other oils added only to produce a consistent flavor profile for the brand. I usually stick to Bertolli, I like their flavor profile.

The other scam is "extra virgin" or "extra extra virgin." It's all the same pressing, rollers extracting most of the oil in one go. The lees, those dry bits that are what's left of the olives, then go through a chemical extraction process that produces that pale yellow, nearly tasteless "olive oil" that people who want to eat a Mediterranean diet but hate the taste of olive oil use. It's not very good for you, so avoid it. Learn to like olive oil or use a different oil.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out my peanut oil has palm, soybean, sunflower, or another oil in it. It's not making me sick, so it's not canola, and that's all I care about right now.

BumRushDaShow

(162,468 posts)
12. Yup
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:42 PM
Oct 14

and especially with the Olive oils and what is required for composition & labeling of "Extra Virgin" versus "Virgin" (first, second, third press, etc) and how some gets blended/diluted with what is basically called "lamp oil" (lampante), which is inedible. Some will try to avoid adding food color and will put actual chlorophyll in it to give it a greener hue to mimic EV olive oil and not trigger artificial color suspicion.

DinahMoeHum

(23,234 posts)
28. Which is why the EVOO I buy is single-sourced. . .
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:02 PM
Oct 14

Preferably California.

Read the labels, folks.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,879 posts)
17. Peanut butter does not need canola oil. It has peanut oil already inside, a competitor to canola oil.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:27 PM
Oct 14

The peanut butter I buy is 100% peanuts (no salt, no sugar, nothing added). It sits on the shelf with a layer of peanut oil on the top.

I can't imagine any need to add canola oil to peanut butter. Can you post a link with an ingredients list or pic of the brand specific?

Warpy

(114,122 posts)
19. I agree, and that's the kind of peanut butter I get when it's in stock
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:37 PM
Oct 14

which doesn't happen all that often.

Big commercial companies use extra oil to get the grinding process started and to make the final product smoother and more consistent. I honestly don't mind that part of the process as long as they don't use nasty canola oil.

progressoid

(52,238 posts)
36. Sounds like what my spouse has to deal with coconut
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:07 AM
Oct 15

She has to check every label for coconut products. And there are a LOT of food and skin care products that use coconut.

Regarding canola oil, I saw this study via DU a while ago that surprised me.

The effects of Canola oil on cardiovascular risk factors: A systematic review and meta-analysis with dose-response analysis of controlled clinical trials
...

Conclusion: CO significantly improved different cardiometabolic risk factors compared to other edible oils. Further well-designed clinical trials are warranted to confirm the dose-response associations.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33127255/


Considering that olive oil is touted as the best of everything, this kind of surprised me.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,364 posts)
6. Gag me with a spoon, Donnie!
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Oct 14

You and your stupid trade war with China is to blame!

Will this orange man-child ever face the facts of his actions? NO!!! It's somebody's else's fault that he is such a fuckup!

JoseBalow

(8,856 posts)
7. I guess they'll have to step up mining their sewers for it then
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:56 PM
Oct 14
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+sewer+cooking+oil

Reprocessing of used cooking oil is often very rudimentary; techniques include filtration, boiling, refining, and the removal of some adulterants. It is then packaged and resold as a cheaper alternative to normal cooking oil.

Another version of gutter oil uses discarded animal parts, animal fat and skins, internal organs, and expired or otherwise low-quality meat, which is then cooked in large vats to extract the oil.
-Gutter Oil

JoseBalow

(8,856 posts)
22. Same here. If it's from China, I'm definitely not eating it.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 07:57 PM
Oct 14

Not to mention the lead and other toxins in their products. I really prefer to avoid anything from there, to be honest.

sinkingfeeling

(56,686 posts)
9. Proving yet again, he doesn't have a clue. China imports cooking oil and exports used cooking oil (UCO) to US.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:08 PM
Oct 14

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,879 posts)
15. It does not seem like a big dollar volume any way, maybe $2 billion
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:22 PM
Oct 14
Meanwhile, China’s exports of used cooking oil hit record highs in 2024, with the U.S. accounting for 43% of the total.


Article did not provide a dollar amount for the trade.

I found this: https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/used-cooking-oil-market-report

The global used cooking oil market size was estimated at USD 8.00 billion in 2024 and is projected to reach USD 11.98 billion by 2030, growing at a CAGR of 7.0% from 2025 to 2030. The growth of this market is primarily driven by increasing awareness regarding the value of waste cooking oil, a significant increase in biofuel production, and an inclination toward the use of renewable energy sources.

North America dominated the global used cooking oil industry with revenue share of 41.7% in 2024.
The U.S. held the largest revenue share of the regional industry in 2024.
Based on application, biodiesel production segment dominated the market with largest revenue share of 50.0% in 2024.

Under The Radar

(3,427 posts)
10. China only sells us used cooking oil.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:11 PM
Oct 14

was just checking Perplexity and there are not any substantial sales of cooking oil from China other than used cooking oil. I doubt that they will feel threatened by this.

twodogsbarking

(16,435 posts)
13. Working together might help. Too far of a "left wing radical nut job" of an idea though.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:00 PM
Oct 14

It would be a smart business decision though so Trump is incapable of such a concept. He would rather he succeeds and you fail than both of you to succeed. Weird but not highly unusual.

moonshinegnomie

(3,721 posts)
16. last i checked there are other sources for cooking oil
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:25 PM
Oct 14

canada grows a lot of canola oil
south americia can easily make soybean oil.

its not hard for china to find a replacement

paleotn

(21,086 posts)
24. That's really not going to hurt them, you dolt.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 09:19 PM
Oct 14

Soybeans are global commodities. Lots of other folks have gladly taken US market share and left US farmers out in the cold. They may never recover that market in our lifetimes. As for cooking oil, that's peanuts. Used "peanuts" to be exact. And no real harm to either economy. The loss of tens of billions in US ag exports from now until who knows when IS a problem.

hunter

(40,113 posts)
27. Used cooking oil is imported from China to make supposedly "green" fuels like biodiesel.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:01 PM
Oct 14

In Trump's mind this is a two-four-one -- he gets to poke China and U.S.A. "Liberals."

ReRe

(12,144 posts)
29. Exhausting is the word!
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:17 PM
Oct 14

Stupid can't keep up with his tariffs! Or maybe it's me that can't keep up? China went to Argentina for soy beans because Stupid put a 100% tariff on China. So this left our farmers with soybeans without a buyer. Then, Stupid bails out the Argentinian dictator's economy to the tune of $20 billion, instead of bailing out his own US farmers? Now Stupid wants to embargo (corn?) cooking oil from China?

Can anyone make any sense out of what Stupid is doing? I have a headache!

Skittles

(168,327 posts)
33. I cannot fucking believe this FUCKING ASSCLOWN is PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 04:48 AM
Oct 15

WHAT KIND OF FUCKING ALTERNATE WORLD IS THIS

lonely bird

(2,595 posts)
37. Um, Donnie
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:09 AM
Oct 15

Nobody has to buy anything from us. Unless there is some product or commodity that we have that no one else does no other country must buy from us.

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