Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

highplainsdem

(58,807 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 06:06 PM Oct 19

Artillery Shell Detonated Over Interstate 5 During Marines' Celebration, California Officials Say

Source: NYT

A 155-millimeter shell fired during a live-fire demonstration for the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton on Saturday prematurely detonated, dropping fragments of the shell on a California Highway Patrol vehicle and motorcycle that were part of Vice President JD Vance’s protective detail, according to a patrol report.

No officers were hurt in the mishap, which dropped shrapnel onto the vehicles parked on a ramp to a major freeway that had been ordered closed by Gov. Gavin Newsom. The governor had objected to the plan to fire over the freeway, Interstate 5, and ordered a 17-mile stretch closed — against the guidance of military officials, who had said it was safe for it to remain open.

According to the patrol report, one officer described what sounded like pebbles hitting his motorcycle and the area around him, and two others saw a two-inch piece of shrapnel hit the hood of their patrol vehicle, leaving a small dent. The report says shrapnel was also found on the road near the motorcycle.

-snip-

The exercise — which the report said was expected to include the firing of approximately 60 155-millimeter shells — was terminated after the round prematurely exploded, the patrol said. Patrol officers cleared the interstate of shell fragments before the highway was declared safe and reopened to vehicular traffic at 2:20 p.m.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/19/us/politics/shell-interstate-5-marines-california.html



The artillery round had been fired at 1:46, just 16 minutes after the exercise had been scheduled to start (though I don't know if it had started on time).

Editing to add that an active-duty Marine officer and a former officer told the NYT that the only such training exercises they'd ever seen had been EAST of the interstate, on approved artillery ranges.
28 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Artillery Shell Detonated Over Interstate 5 During Marines' Celebration, California Officials Say (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 19 OP
Too bad it missed Vance Bayard Oct 19 #1
I was thinking the same thing... slightlv Oct 19 #3
I'm ashamed to BlueMTexpat Oct 20 #23
US Marines should be ashamed of themselves. Irish_Dem Oct 19 #2
well, not exactly AT civilians stopdiggin Oct 19 #8
I am dumbfounded at your comment. Irish_Dem Oct 19 #10
and, again - not shooting AT a highway stopdiggin Oct 20 #21
If you're shooting toward the 5 Freeway, you are shooting AT civilians. SunSeeker Oct 19 #12
I watched Adam Mocker's report about this today BigmanPigman Oct 20 #16
San Diegans are generally good people who vote Dem. SunSeeker Oct 20 #17
agreed. extremely ill advised (and I believe they were so counseled) stopdiggin Oct 20 #22
250 years of respect StoolPigeon Oct 19 #11
I am so glad my USAF career military father is not alive to see this. Irish_Dem Oct 20 #25
The Marine Corps birthday is Nov 10 Deminpenn Oct 19 #4
Republicans bomb America Champp Oct 19 #5
Looks like Newsom made the right decision JoseBalow Oct 19 #6
They fired over the 5? underpants Oct 19 #7
Right? They fired over the 5 on a Saturday, when it's super crowded! SunSeeker Oct 19 #13
We bury dead war heroes with the firing of blanks by the Honor Guard. 70sEraVet Oct 19 #9
That was Cpl. Vance's idea. Crowman2009 Oct 19 #14
Zing! 🪄💫 littlemissmartypants Oct 20 #19
Trump wanted to shutter a main arterial freeway during No Kings protests . . . Journeyman Oct 20 #15
In case we miss the first time? 🤪 littlemissmartypants Oct 20 #20
Hahaha 😆 just desserts. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 20 #18
I wonder how Daryll Issa feels about getting gerrymandered out? Buddyzbuddy Oct 20 #24
No excuse for this kind of shit. Botany Oct 20 #26
This demonstration was just plain idiocy. Why would anyone want to do this? Jim__ Oct 20 #27
Saved us $177k... Or enough to feed about 600 americans for a month with SNAP kerouac2 Oct 20 #28

slightlv

(6,946 posts)
3. I was thinking the same thing...
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 06:28 PM
Oct 19

I'd been hoping for a major "artillery accident" without casualties to wake people up to the damage, disaster, and danger this man and is policy minions are to the country. Still... at least there WAS this.

Irish_Dem

(77,022 posts)
2. US Marines should be ashamed of themselves.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 06:25 PM
Oct 19

They work for the GD American people.
And they are shooting missiles at civilians on American soil.

GD bastards.

stopdiggin

(14,594 posts)
8. well, not exactly AT civilians
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:15 PM
Oct 19

there's plenty of room for outrage - while still attempting to be somewhat accurate.

Irish_Dem

(77,022 posts)
10. I am dumbfounded at your comment.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:35 PM
Oct 19

GD Marines shooting missiles, shells, whatever at GD CIVILIAN HIGHWAYS
ON AMERICAN SOIL.

JFC. This is disgusting and pretending otherwise is absurd.

stopdiggin

(14,594 posts)
21. and, again - not shooting AT a highway
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 02:06 AM
Oct 20

Last edited Mon Oct 20, 2025, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)

'toward' - 'over' - 'in the general direction' ... All might serve your purpose better.

(what the military was 'targeting' was fairly well explained in the run up.)

SunSeeker

(57,066 posts)
12. If you're shooting toward the 5 Freeway, you are shooting AT civilians.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:01 PM
Oct 19

The 5 Freeway is an 8-lane major artery between L.A. and San Diego that runs along the beach on the western edge of Camp Pendleton. On Saturdays, especially at midday, it is a parking lot. Shrapnel would have rained over hundreds of stopped cars, trucks and motorcycles. I am one of those people who drives down to San Diego on a Saturday afternoon, to see family. And just south of Camp Pendleton is the very populated town of Oceanside. An errant shell/shrapnel could easily hit Oceanside. It is absolutely insane to blast shells toward the 5. Whoever approved that should be court martialed.

Thank God Newsom shut the 5 down. But the shells/shrapnel still could have gone to Oceanside, or strayed north and hit a surfer at San Onofre.

BigmanPigman

(54,229 posts)
16. I watched Adam Mocker's report about this today
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:17 AM
Oct 20

Then I read an article about it in a local paper. The newspaper never even mentioned that some shit fell and hit the ground and Vance's security detail. That's the MSM for you!

We REALLY hate Vance in San Diego. I loved it when people in my neighborhood got the word that Vance was eating expensive sushi while Texas was flooded and nailed him when he was leaving the restaurant on Adams Ave in University Heights.

?si=kTf07DMBRmIADhAi

stopdiggin

(14,594 posts)
22. agreed. extremely ill advised (and I believe they were so counseled)
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 02:13 AM
Oct 20

And still - not shooting AT civilians. They are shooting AT go-fast boats in the Caribbean. There is a difference. And a fairly distinct one.

Irish_Dem

(77,022 posts)
25. I am so glad my USAF career military father is not alive to see this.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 06:47 AM
Oct 20

He used to say that the Air Force signed his paycheck
but he worked for the American people.

For him to see the US Marines attack Americans on US soil would blow his mind.
And not in a good way.

Champp

(2,409 posts)
5. Republicans bomb America
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 06:37 PM
Oct 19

because they are so corrupt, weak, and deceitful.

I feel bad for Jesus, having these darkside assclowns lying about being true followers

SunSeeker

(57,066 posts)
13. Right? They fired over the 5 on a Saturday, when it's super crowded!
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:08 PM
Oct 19


There should be a congressional investigation and heads should roll over this.

Thank God Newsom shut the 5 down and nobody was hurt.

70sEraVet

(5,059 posts)
9. We bury dead war heroes with the firing of blanks by the Honor Guard.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:09 PM
Oct 19

Why do we need live artillery for a visiting Vice President?

Crowman2009

(3,338 posts)
14. That was Cpl. Vance's idea.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:33 PM
Oct 19

If I had picked MCAS Cherry Pt. as my next duty station around the same time he arrived, he wouldn't be VP.

Journeyman

(15,399 posts)
15. Trump wanted to shutter a main arterial freeway during No Kings protests . . .
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:30 AM
Oct 20

in hopes it would disrupt people plans and the rallies in San Diego and Orange County / Los Angeles wouldn't be as successful.

What he didn't understand is how many diverse gatherings there were all day, so even if someone couldn't make it to San Diego, they could attend any one of dozens of other events planned throughout the Southland.

littlemissmartypants

(30,699 posts)
18. Hahaha 😆 just desserts. ❤️
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:52 AM
Oct 20

I am going to ask dog for forgiveness now. I hope no voting democrats, other animals or children were harmed as a result.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,780 posts)
24. I wonder how Daryll Issa feels about getting gerrymandered out?
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 04:42 AM
Oct 20

He represents a portion in that area. FAFO.

Botany

(75,711 posts)
26. No excuse for this kind of shit.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 07:04 AM
Oct 20

Who gave the order to fire a 155 shell across I 5? This was a warning shot about what is gonna
happen to all of America under our new fascist dictatorship.

kerouac2

(1,368 posts)
28. Saved us $177k... Or enough to feed about 600 americans for a month with SNAP
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 07:58 AM
Oct 20

60 shells? They were going to spend as much as 180000 bucks on this? Wth?

The U.S. M795 high explosive shell, the most basic type of 155mm shell, costs around $3,000, according to an Army spokesperson.

So 177000 saved by not firing the other 59 shells would cover almost 600 Americans on SNAP for a month.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Artillery Shell Detonated...