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BumRushDaShow

(162,365 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:07 PM Oct 19

Rand Paul: 'All of these people have been blown up without us knowing their name'

Source: Politico

10/19/2025 11:14 AM EDT


Sen. Rand Paul on Sunday questioned the wisdom and legality of President Donald Trump’s policies toward Venezuela and suspected drug dealers coming from its coast.

Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” the Kentucky Republican again raised concerns about the legality of the Trump administration’s strikes on boats that it claims are carrying drug traffickers, as well as the president’s statement that the United States might conduct direct attacks on Venezuela’s territory.

“When you kill someone, you should know, if you’re not at war, not in a declared war, you really need to know someone’s name at least,” Paul said. “You have to accuse them of something. You have to present evidence. So all of these people have been blown up without us knowing their name, without any evidence of a crime.” He said that given the distance these boats are from the United States, it’s more likely that if there are indeed drug smugglers, they are bringing them to nearby islands such as Trinidad and Tobago, instead of the U.S.

Paul added: “For decades, if not centuries, when you stop people at sea in international waters or in your own waters, you announce that you’re going to board the ship and you’re looking for contraband, smuggling, or drugs. This happens every day off of Miami. But we know from Coast Guard statistics that about 25 percent of the time the Coast Guard boards a ship there are no drugs. So if our policy now is to blow up every ship we suspect or accuse of drug running, that would be a bizarre world in which 25 percent of the people might be innocent.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/19/rand-paul-venezuela-strikes-00614882

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Rand Paul: 'All of these people have been blown up without us knowing their name' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 19 OP
Rand is going woke! Blues Heron Oct 19 #1
Even the markodochartaigh Oct 19 #5
Probably trying to go from a 100% asshole to a 99.999999% one in case he decides to run for President in 2028. cstanleytech Oct 19 #15
If we had a reliable MSM, Sneederbunk Oct 19 #2
Rand appears to be USING his mind, recently. elleng Oct 19 #3
I wonder where he got the number "25 percent." ananda Oct 19 #13
Hey Rand, here me out: SSJVegeta Oct 19 #4
Oh hell no. He can ally himself with us, but don't let it fool you ms liberty Oct 19 #8
If he were a true libertarian then his goals would align far more with Democratic goals of preserving civil SSJVegeta Oct 19 #9
Him and timms139 Oct 20 #16
I disagree. The voters voted in Beshear as a rational dem SSJVegeta Oct 20 #18
The people timms139 Oct 21 #29
These boats aren't "off Miami," they're off the coast of Venezuela, 1500 miles away from Florida, and we're not at war. sop Oct 19 #6
Gee whiz, Rand... CTyankee Oct 19 #7
God, I hate agreeing with Rand Paul. LudwigPastorius Oct 19 #10
I know! ... I think this is a first for me too FakeNoose Oct 19 #11
I know. First, MTG going "Me Too"... ananda Oct 19 #14
And yet... skypilot Oct 19 #12
Ok. Passages Oct 20 #17
Rand enabled this shit, he needs to quit whining and start demolishing the notsee "empire" he's helped to create. Clouds Passing Oct 20 #19
My opinion of Rand has changed COL Mustard Oct 20 #20
He's a Libertarian (like his father and people like Bill Maher) BumRushDaShow Oct 20 #22
I dabbled in Libertarianism a while back. COL Mustard Oct 20 #26
Yup BumRushDaShow Oct 20 #27
He makes sense at times. Just don't fuck with his leaves. twodogsbarking Oct 20 #21
You know, one of these days, all this extrajudicial killing is going to come home to roost on all of us. Ray Bruns Oct 20 #23
I hate it when I agree with Rand Paul. NT Happy Hoosier Oct 20 #24
As the orange pedophile's polling deteriorates they're all going to jump ship... NNadir Oct 20 #25
I Read A Report Yesterday That Said DallasNE Oct 20 #28

cstanleytech

(28,009 posts)
15. Probably trying to go from a 100% asshole to a 99.999999% one in case he decides to run for President in 2028.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 10:17 PM
Oct 19

Sneederbunk

(16,915 posts)
2. If we had a reliable MSM,
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:12 PM
Oct 19

the survivors of the recent bombing would be identified and interviewed.

elleng

(141,295 posts)
3. Rand appears to be USING his mind, recently.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:13 PM
Oct 19

“For decades, if not centuries, when you stop people at sea in international waters or in your own waters, you announce that you’re going to board the ship and you’re looking for contraband, smuggling, or drugs. This happens every day off of Miami. But we know from Coast Guard statistics that about 25 percent of the time the Coast Guard boards a ship there are no drugs. So if our policy now is to blow up every ship we suspect or accuse of drug running, that would be a bizarre world in which 25 percent of the people might be innocent.”

ananda

(33,786 posts)
13. I wonder where he got the number "25 percent."
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:54 PM
Oct 19

I'm not saying it's wrong, but how do we know?

SSJVegeta

(1,837 posts)
4. Hey Rand, here me out:
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:24 PM
Oct 19

What if I told you that there is a political party that doesnt support blowing people up before knowing their name? And what if I told you that you can join this party today?

ms liberty

(10,743 posts)
8. Oh hell no. He can ally himself with us, but don't let it fool you
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:35 PM
Oct 19

He does not share our policy goals or priorities. He is a Libertarian.

SSJVegeta

(1,837 posts)
9. If he were a true libertarian then his goals would align far more with Democratic goals of preserving civil
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:50 PM
Oct 19

Liberties. Better than you know: sending masked men into streets to disappear them.

But alas he is all bluster no action. Yes the Democratic party would be a better party for him of he truly valued civil liberties. Alas he likely does not and therefore, will remain a republican.

timms139

(430 posts)
16. Him and
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:00 AM
Oct 20

others would like to do that but then again the stupid voters here in Kentucky would replace him with a nutcase much worse . They are afraid for themselves but never for the people .

timms139

(430 posts)
29. The people
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:08 AM
Oct 21

in Ky. survive on democratic programs that Republicans have tried to destroy for years and yet what was democratic strong holds turned red and vote red . I have seen Democrats locally elected to office change to the Republican party in the last few months.They are people who will do anything to hold to power .I don't have your hope that we will see any good coming for a long stretch.

sop

(16,638 posts)
6. These boats aren't "off Miami," they're off the coast of Venezuela, 1500 miles away from Florida, and we're not at war.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:26 PM
Oct 19

And the U.S. Coast Guard or Navy doesn't blow up suspected drug boats "off Miami," whether they're in international or U.S. waters, they stop, board and inspect the vessels for contraband. So, according to U.S. law, 100% of these people are innocent since we have no jurisdiction in the matter. There is no "wisdom or legality" to question here...Trump is a murderous thug.

skypilot

(9,074 posts)
12. And yet...
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:48 PM
Oct 19

...he thinks that Trump is one of the best, if not THE best, presidents in his lifetime. Will he ever muster the same outrage for any of the abuses being meted out to citizens right here on American soil?

Passages

(3,818 posts)
17. Ok.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:04 AM
Oct 20

The Impeachment Process in the Senate

Congress.gov
https://www.congress.gov › crs-product
Feb 15, 2024 — The presiding officer and Senators take an oath to do impartial justice, and the Senate issues a "summons" to the accused and requests that a ...

Clouds Passing

(6,297 posts)
19. Rand enabled this shit, he needs to quit whining and start demolishing the notsee "empire" he's helped to create.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:39 AM
Oct 20

COL Mustard

(7,744 posts)
20. My opinion of Rand has changed
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 10:16 AM
Oct 20

I think he’s only 95% evil now.

Seriously, if you’re losing Rand Paul, you’re in trouble. I expect he’ll just be the first.

BumRushDaShow

(162,365 posts)
22. He's a Libertarian (like his father and people like Bill Maher)
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 10:24 AM
Oct 20

They purportedly believe in "personal rights".

COL Mustard

(7,744 posts)
26. I dabbled in Libertarianism a while back.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:47 PM
Oct 20

They want unfettered freedom and no responsibility. Can't have that in a functioning civil society.

BumRushDaShow

(162,365 posts)
27. Yup
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:04 PM
Oct 20

It's essentially a selfish belief system that would, for example, advocate for reproductive rights while advocating for the "right" of people to discriminate against others.

Ray Bruns

(5,732 posts)
23. You know, one of these days, all this extrajudicial killing is going to come home to roost on all of us.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 10:51 AM
Oct 20

And that will be a very bloody day indeed.

NNadir

(36,813 posts)
25. As the orange pedophile's polling deteriorates they're all going to jump ship...
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 11:30 AM
Oct 20

...and suddenly raise "concerns."

They will all aspire to Kurt Waldheim status, respectability after the fall after having been active participants in the crimes.

They shouldn't be forgiven when it all comes crashing down.

DallasNE

(7,901 posts)
28. I Read A Report Yesterday That Said
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:45 PM
Oct 20

One of the boats attacked was in Columbian waters and owned by a Columbian fisherman. Further, the boad was dead in the water with an active distress signal identifying engine problems. Some due-diligence that is.

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