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BumRushDaShow

(162,336 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:48 PM Saturday

RFK Jr to urge Americans to eat more saturated fats, alarming health experts

Source: The Guardian

Sat 25 Oct 2025 08.00 EDT
Last modified on Sat 25 Oct 2025 14.39 EDT


Robert F Kennedy Jr, the health and human services (HHS) secretary, is planning to issue guidance encouraging Americans to eat more saturated fats, contradicting decades of dietary recommendations and alarming experts.

“My response and sort of counsel to myself was to stay calm, and let’s see what happens, because there was no indication given as to how, why, when this potential shift would occur,” said Cheryl Anderson, an American Heart Association board member and professor at the University of California, San Diego’s school of public health and human longevity science. “The recommendation around saturated fat has been one of the most consistent recommendations since the first edition of the dietary guidelines.”

While Ronald Krauss, a professor of pediatrics and medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, who has researched saturated fats extensively, found that saturated fats may be less harmful than previously thought, he believes if “[Kennedy] is actually going to go out and say we should be eating more saturated fat, I think that’s really the wrong message”.

Kennedy has indicated that new dietary guidelines will “stress the need to eat saturated fats of dairy, of good meat, of fresh meat and vegetables … When we release those, it will give everybody the rationale for driving it into our schools,” according to recent reporting in the Hill. Krauss’s research shows that “saturated fat is relatively neutral” compared with what scientists have believed in the past.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/25/rfk-jr-saturated-fats



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RFK Jr to urge Americans to eat more saturated fats, alarming health experts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
Butter and bacon and doughnuts, oh my! Midnight Writer Saturday #1
Ha I was typing the same thing at the same time..... Irish_Dem Saturday #3
And make sure you don't get tested! mpcamb Saturday #16
You forgot cheeseburgers! Jack Valentino Saturday #51
Increased fat and lower carbs does help type 2 diabetes Born Free Sunday #85
ok Homer... keroro gunsou Sunday #64
RFK Jr diet: Eat more sugar, donuts, ice cream, bacon, French fries. Irish_Dem Saturday #2
And road kill Zambero Saturday #5
The more germs the better. Irish_Dem Saturday #8
... BumRushDaShow Saturday #17
And fry those french fries in beef tallow instead of vegetable oil. Initech Sunday #67
And smoke cigarettes and shoot up heroin too. Irish_Dem Sunday #68
And you know the seweage treatment plant where it says "do not swim"? Initech Sunday #75
Beef tallow has been used for cooking for centuries womanofthehills Sunday #69
Beef tallow is great for some things for sure. Initech Sunday #77
With my air fryer I usually use olive oil womanofthehills Sunday #82
A serial killer in full public view... hlthe2b Saturday #4
Trump killed one million Americans during Covid. RFK Jr wants to beat that record. Irish_Dem Saturday #9
Maybe the problem will work itself out! Initech Sunday #78
Silly contrarians don't realize the damage they do. thought crime Sunday #57
Let's make those 1960s-style heart attacks Great Again! bucolic_frolic Saturday #6
Guess that should be HAGA - Heart Attacks Great Again! /nt bucolic_frolic Saturday #10
Bobby thinks that "Sleeper" is a documentary no_hypocrisy Saturday #7
Fatten them up for what exactly? IronLionZion Saturday #11
"Fatten them up for what exactly?" BumRushDaShow Saturday #21
No need for a remake. We're living it. thought crime Sunday #59
Whatever HE says, we need to do the OPPOSITE FakeNoose Saturday #12
Dead heat for first place. mpcamb Saturday #18
Yes except Chump has killed more people ... for now FakeNoose Saturday #19
Do I eat the saturated fats before or after drinking the bleach that Trump recommended? Beartracks Saturday #13
There's Ivermectin for dessert! Dave Bowman Saturday #28
Be sure to add some wild mushrooms to your well-marbled beef. Ocelot II Sunday #76
Alan Greyson (FL) was right in 2009: Republicans want you to die quickly. That's their health plan. flor-de-jasmim Saturday #14
Alan Grayson is great! markodochartaigh Saturday #22
And "we have death panels. They're called insurance companies." Evolve Dammit Saturday #38
Among many other reasons too n/t Polybius Saturday #44
Don't forget your daily dose of heroin. Buddyzbuddy Saturday #15
My daily dose comes with a reminder JoseBalow Saturday #20
Trump wants to take over the drug trade. So yes Americans need to do more drugs. Irish_Dem Saturday #26
Trumponomics: Oil, Crypto and Drugs. Oh yes, and tariffs. thought crime Sunday #60
Yes and add sex trade. Irish_Dem Sunday #62
Brain diseased heroin addict with no medical education at all as head of HHS PSPS Saturday #23
His dried prune-faced look is NOT a picture of health wolfie001 Saturday #24
More fat, more sugar! Aussie105 Saturday #25
Does anybody actually listen to this clown? Ritabert Saturday #27
Apparently King Klown does. Dave Bowman Saturday #29
King Klown pretends to listen. He got his Covid shot at his latest exam. Ritabert Sunday #71
My parents drank scotch and water every night for about a decade when I was growing up. Then they'd get into a fight CTyankee Saturday #30
No worries. At the rate we're going, most of us won't be able to afford "dairy, good meat, LoisB Saturday #31
Somebody got to him. Who benefits? Demobrat Saturday #32
RFK Jr. encourages Americans to 'smoke two packs of cigarettes per day Oeditpus Rex Saturday #33
"Smoking cigarettes... is a health tool" JoseBalow Saturday #40
Just wait, he'll get around to it. thought crime Sunday #58
There's this dialogue in 'Sleeper,' a Woody Allen movie from 1973 Oeditpus Rex Sunday #63
There is NO hope whatsoever MLWR Saturday #34
Trump told him to say that to back up Trump's diet. Coke with surar cane too. Some whale head stew for dinner. twodogsbarking Saturday #35
Urge all you want Bob, stage left Saturday #36
Sounds Like Keto Deep State Witch Saturday #37
Canola oil is reasonably good, but nothing like olive and avocado. Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #39
Actually- I've been cooking in organic grass fed beef tallow womanofthehills Saturday #46
There's zero evidence for their claims of seed oils and inflammation NickB79 Saturday #49
It's basically processed foods vs natural womanofthehills Sunday #83
There is nothing he's says that I would ever believe kimbutgar Saturday #41
Wouldn't you like to see what Bob eats on a daily basis? Bayard Saturday #42
RFK, Jr is the wrong guy to be telling Grammy23 Saturday #43
It shocked me so much, I dropped the quart of Ben &Jerry's I was eating. Wonder Why Saturday #45
Depends, he's so fucking ignorant it's hartd to tell what he's saying Warpy Saturday #47
"Also -- let's all play more Russian roulette!" struggle4progress Saturday #48
FORCE-FEED MORE SATURATED FATS INTO TRUMP !!!!! Jack Valentino Saturday #50
Can't spell FREAK without an R, F, & K Blue Owl Saturday #52
Invest in lard stocks NOW. Sneederbunk Saturday #53
The good news is mercuryblues Saturday #54
And for pain, Wolf Frankula Sunday #55
OK, take everyone's healthcare away BigmanPigman Sunday #56
I sure hope ... rustysgurl Sunday #61
Quite a novel solution for saving the Social Security system! 70sEraVet Sunday #65
Maybe the problem will work itself out! Initech Sunday #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #70
They are deliberately trying to kill us. travelingthrulife Sunday #72
Not surprising. His boss recommends drinking chlorox. Martin68 Sunday #73
Yeah, let's definitely follow the dietary practices of people from the era when life expectancy was 35. (nt) Pinback Sunday #74
I urge RFK Jr to eat shit. Dave Bowman Sunday #79
Every time I think I know how bat shit crazy RFK Jr is, he does something even more bat shit crazy. ShazzieB Sunday #80
It will make you look better Turbineguy Sunday #81
Worm ate my brain. What an a-hole. Let's see how many cardiologists are in agreement besides Dr's Phil and Oz.... Evolve Dammit Sunday #84

Born Free

(1,648 posts)
85. Increased fat and lower carbs does help type 2 diabetes
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:14 PM
Sunday

Many people with type 2 diabetes have seen their HA1C levels drop after they increase fat intake and reduce carbohydrates. The best way to test it is to keep a diary of what you eat at a meal, and test the blood glucose levels at 1 and 2 hours later. It is easy to see what foods have the biggest effects. Many doing the high fat low carbohydrate diets have higher cholesterol at first but that seems to go down as the body adjusts. Crazy as it may seem, cheeseburgers are OK for type 2 diabetes, it is the bun that that raises the blood glucose level.

In theory anyone can test it with a cheap glucose meter and a few tests strips, eat a banana as recommended by nurses for a mid morning snack and check the blood glucose at 1 and 2 hours, than try eating meat and test the same way and see which gives you a lower glucose level reading.

Initech

(106,685 posts)
75. And you know the seweage treatment plant where it says "do not swim"?
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 02:30 PM
Sunday

Go ahead, swim in that shit! YOLO!

womanofthehills

(10,537 posts)
69. Beef tallow has been used for cooking for centuries
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 01:10 PM
Sunday

Look at how slim everyone was in the 50’s. I prefer organic grass fed beef tallow to chemically processed seed oils. Eggs fried in beef tallow are amazingly delicious. Now we are learning beef tallow from grass fed cows is rich in Vit A, D, E and K2.

It’s more stable for high heat frying as it doesn’t break down into harmful compounds So less processed than seed oils and no chemicals used in production.

Remember when we were told not to eat too many eggs??

Initech

(106,685 posts)
77. Beef tallow is great for some things for sure.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 02:34 PM
Sunday

But it also has a high smoke point and can damage your fryer or cause burns if you don't know what you are doing. It's also more expensive too. Most restaurants use vegetable oil because it's cheap and easily disposable.

womanofthehills

(10,537 posts)
82. With my air fryer I usually use olive oil
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 05:21 PM
Sunday

But when I fry on the stove top,
I use Ghee or Beef Tallow.

hlthe2b

(111,891 posts)
4. A serial killer in full public view...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:52 PM
Saturday

If only that brain cyst, or his chronic mercury poisoning, or his history of heroin abuse, or all his anabolic steroid use, or his insane desire to kill young and old, just to make some ridiculous point, would combine to bring him his long-delayed Karma.

Initech

(106,685 posts)
78. Maybe the problem will work itself out!
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 02:36 PM
Sunday

I'm convinced there's no corporation on earth that hates its' customers more than News Corporation. Of which there are many former employees of that organization employed in this horrible administration.

bucolic_frolic

(52,969 posts)
6. Let's make those 1960s-style heart attacks Great Again!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:55 PM
Saturday

There's tradeoffs to everything. Dairy, beef, trans fats do one thing, seed oils do another, Keto does something else.

Beartracks

(14,176 posts)
13. Do I eat the saturated fats before or after drinking the bleach that Trump recommended?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:08 PM
Saturday

It's so confusing.

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flor-de-jasmim

(2,250 posts)
14. Alan Greyson (FL) was right in 2009: Republicans want you to die quickly. That's their health plan.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:11 PM
Saturday

And... he lost his seat in the H of Reps. for saying it.

Irish_Dem

(76,852 posts)
26. Trump wants to take over the drug trade. So yes Americans need to do more drugs.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:08 PM
Saturday

Cha Ching for Trump.

PSPS

(15,059 posts)
23. Brain diseased heroin addict with no medical education at all as head of HHS
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:28 PM
Saturday

Everything he says is "alarming health experts." Bob, himself, is "alarming health experts." Yet the republican senate actually confirmed him.

Aussie105

(7,333 posts)
25. More fat, more sugar!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:02 PM
Saturday

Clog those arteries, get heart problems by the age of 35!
If you are lucky, you might just get diabetes only.

Oh wait . . . check your health cover first, those few who actually have that.
Self inflicted medical problems may not be covered!

CTyankee

(67,440 posts)
30. My parents drank scotch and water every night for about a decade when I was growing up. Then they'd get into a fight
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:40 PM
Saturday

about something and start yelling at each other. I was a scared kid listening to that...

LoisB

(11,919 posts)
31. No worries. At the rate we're going, most of us won't be able to afford "dairy, good meat,
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:54 PM
Saturday

fresh meat and vegetables". We'll be eating dandelion soup and trying to catch fish from polluted rivers.

Demobrat

(10,233 posts)
32. Somebody got to him. Who benefits?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:55 PM
Saturday

Dairy farmers? Cholesterol drug manufacturers? Heart surgeons?

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
33. RFK Jr. encourages Americans to 'smoke two packs of cigarettes per day
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:59 PM
Saturday

WASHINGTON (Not the Onion; just me) -- Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. today encouraged Americans to smoke at least two packs of unfiltered cigarettes per day.

The controversial Secretary said smokung "strengthens the body's autoimmune system" against the common cold virus and various types of cancer, including lung cancer.

Kennedy added that people over 40 who've never smoked "have some catching up to do" and should smoke at least three packs per day. There are 20 cigarettes in a pack.

"We all need to toughen up our iimmune system, for obvious reasons," Kennedy said. "Look at me. I did a lot of heroin, cocaine, pills in my 20s, and now I'm a fucking Cabinet. I'm 10th in line to the supreme leader. Top that, pig fuckers!"

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
63. There's this dialogue in 'Sleeper,' a Woody Allen movie from 1973
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:00 AM
Sunday

that's a lot like "Idiocracy," except this future isn't filled with right-wingers. If JFKJr.'s seen it, he probably will. (I imagine Allen's one of his heroes.)

Dr. Orva: "Here, smoke this. And be sure you get the smoke deep down into your lungs."

Miles Monroe (Allen, dude from 200 years in the past): "I don't smoke."

Dr. Orva: "It's tobacco! It's one of the healthiest things for your body!"

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070707/quotes?item=qt3979090

MLWR

(636 posts)
34. There is NO hope whatsoever
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:00 PM
Saturday

for anyone who takes his/her medical advice from RFK Jr. anyhow.

twodogsbarking

(16,396 posts)
35. Trump told him to say that to back up Trump's diet. Coke with surar cane too. Some whale head stew for dinner.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:03 PM
Saturday

Deep State Witch

(12,377 posts)
37. Sounds Like Keto
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:16 PM
Saturday

A lot of people in the keto-verse are into animal fats. Okay, I'll admit that butter is better for you than margarine. And bacon grease is great to cook some things with. But I draw the line at beef tallow. Ick.

They are correct about seed oils, especially canola oil, causing inflammation. I've switched to cooking with olive or avocado oil. However, they have put tariffs on Mexican avocados and olive oil from Europe. If you're going to encourage people to eat healthier, they need to lower the price to make the good stuff competitive with the bad stuff.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,837 posts)
39. Canola oil is reasonably good, but nothing like olive and avocado.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:37 PM
Saturday

I fry and roast with avocado oil and put olive oil on everything else. Those are the only two I use.

Here avocado and EV olive oil are about the same price, since olive oil rose due to climate disturbances. I don't know about the US.

womanofthehills

(10,537 posts)
46. Actually- I've been cooking in organic grass fed beef tallow
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:10 PM
Saturday

My friends said best eggs they ever had. Of course, the eggs were from my organically fed chickens. I also make home made organic tortillas with beef tallow as they taste more like old fashioned Mexican tortillas. Also, beef tallow is a great facial moisturizer - slather on on your face before going to bed.

Mostly Carnivore diet is big now among body builders and people wanting to lose weight. Lots of eggs, meat, bacon, butter, yogurt, a few veggies esp fatty ones like avocado - but no grains or sugar. Many Carnivore body builders say they take one teaspoon of honey a day for their sugar receptors. I would gross out with so few vegetables but tens of thousands on online forums are on Carnivore diets - many saying their health has improved- who really knows?

GMO free grass fed butter from Ireland is very popular right now & super delicious and definitely healthier than margarine or seed oils which are highly processed with chemicals. Even Walmart carries this Irish butter along with beef tallow.

The times they are a changin’ with lots of nutritionists recommending this diet.

Personally- I avoid processed foods, eat lots of protein, make my own sourdough bread and grow mini tomatoes & greens in my south windows. Being I have chickens, I eat lots of eggs every way you can - raw, hard boiled, omelet, over easy etc.

Being I live in ranch land, I can get grass fed/grass finished beef. In fact, when I’ve left my gate open, I’ve had neighboring cattle wander around my place.

NickB79

(20,135 posts)
49. There's zero evidence for their claims of seed oils and inflammation
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:47 PM
Saturday

For every study that found a link, another one found none.

There is no scientific consensus.

womanofthehills

(10,537 posts)
83. It's basically processed foods vs natural
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 05:51 PM
Sunday

You can buy more expensive olive oil that’s cold-pressed or expeller- pressed in a dark bottle to help preserve it. No chemicals used

However, cheaper oils often use the solvent hexane for extraction, plus sodium hydroxide, citric acid, plus bleaching and deodorizing agents. These chemicals can degrade any vitamins in these oils.

Pressed olive oil contains vit K & E and polyphenols ( polyphenols are anti-inflammatory.). Best to buy small bottles of olive oil that’s you use up within a month & keep in a dark place to get max nutrients.

kimbutgar

(26,336 posts)
41. There is nothing he's says that I would ever believe
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:17 PM
Saturday

DEI Didn’t earn it only by having the family name is where he is today. He’s be a drunk homeless bum if he wasn’t a member of the Kennedy family

Bayard

(27,535 posts)
42. Wouldn't you like to see what Bob eats on a daily basis?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:18 PM
Saturday

I'd also like to see the qualifications of physicians that give him advice/guidance.

Grammy23

(6,063 posts)
43. RFK, Jr is the wrong guy to be telling
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:41 PM
Saturday

U.S. anything to do about our health. There are changing guidelines about a lot of traditional dietary advice. And millions of people around the world have made significant changes to their nutrition without sacrificing their health. But if anyone thinks RFK,Jr is the guy to help us understand any of it, they need to get better acquainted with that madman. He has no credentials or education to explain how to turn on a stove, much less what kind of food we should consume.

Warpy

(114,105 posts)
47. Depends, he's so fucking ignorant it's hartd to tell what he's saying
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:10 PM
Saturday

There are naturally occurrint saturated fats like lard, butter, and other animal fats. Then there's the artificially produced trans fats that are stable at room temperature for weeks or months but whiich are a good idea to avoid since they tend to plaster themselves on the insides of your arteries. If he's talking about naturally occurring saturated fat versus laboratory created trans fats, he's got a point, the naturally occurring stuff is less damaging.

However, he's so fucking stupid that who knows?

mercuryblues

(15,945 posts)
54. The good news is
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 11:35 PM
Saturday

Only the MAGots will completely follow this advice and they'll die off sooner rather than later.
It's what they voted for.

BigmanPigman

(54,199 posts)
56. OK, take everyone's healthcare away
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 01:12 AM
Sunday

That means more $$$$ for MAGA!

I told you his agenda is to bankrupt then kill Americans as he destroys the USA in our faces every fucking day!!!!!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Pinback

(13,421 posts)
74. Yeah, let's definitely follow the dietary practices of people from the era when life expectancy was 35. (nt)
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 02:23 PM
Sunday

ShazzieB

(21,871 posts)
80. Every time I think I know how bat shit crazy RFK Jr is, he does something even more bat shit crazy.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sunday

I've become convinced that there is literally no bottom to his bat shittery.

Frontline on PBS recebtly ran a 2 hour documentary called The Rise of RFK Jr. I watched it last night and came away even more convinced of how deranged he is. It wasn't a fun watch, but it was a very informative one. It's available on YouTube if anyone is interested.


Evolve Dammit

(21,308 posts)
84. Worm ate my brain. What an a-hole. Let's see how many cardiologists are in agreement besides Dr's Phil and Oz....
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 07:12 PM
Sunday
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