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ancianita

(42,412 posts)
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:46 PM Tuesday

Judge orders daily meetings with Border Patrol official Bovino on Chicago immigration crackdown

Source: WRAL and Associated Press

By CHRISTINE FERNANDO , Associated Press

CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge on Tuesday ordered a senior U.S. Border Patrol official to meet her daily “to hear about how the day went” after weeks of confrontations between immigration agents and the public in the Chicago area during a weekslong enforcement campaign...

She also noted the sudden deployment of tear gas during a weekend Halloween event.
“Children at a Halloween parade do not pose an immediate threat to a law enforcement officer,” U.S. District Judge Sara Ellis said. "And you cannot use riot control weapons against them.”

Wearing a green uniform, Bovino settled into the witness chair in federal court in Chicago. He is chief of the Border Patrol sector in El Centro, California, one of nine sectors on the Mexican border, and has become the face of the Trump administration’s immigration crackdowns in America’s big cities.
The hearing is the latest in a lawsuit by news outlets and protesters who say agents have used excessive force, including tear gas, during demonstrations against immigration sweeps in the Chicago area...

She wants to hear about agents’ use of force in Little Village, Chicago’s Mexican enclave. During an enforcement operation there and in an adjacent suburb, Cicero, at least eight people, including four U.S. citizens, were detained before protesters gathered at the scene, officials said.
Attorneys representing a coalition of news outlets and protesters claim Bovino violated the order in Little Village, and they filed an image of him allegedly “throwing tear gas into a crowd without justification.”



Read more: https://www.wral.com/story/border-patrol-official-bovino-due-in-court-to-answer-questions-about-chicago-immigration-crackdown/22218829/

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ancianita

(42,412 posts)
2. Yep. She could be moving toward contempt if she sees evidence that contradict his daily "reports."
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:53 PM
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Bluetus

(1,764 posts)
4. I need some help with geography
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 02:54 PM
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Because there are "border patrol" goons throughout Chicago, but when I look at the map, I don't see any borders anywhere near Chicago, unless we are talking about Wisconsin and Indiana.

ancianita

(42,412 posts)
6. Chicago is located on Lake Michigan, and so is within100 miles of the border with Canada, which
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 03:55 PM
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extends into Lake Michigan. That's CBP and ICE's technically correct water border justification.

Bluetus

(1,764 posts)
11. You must be thinking of Detroit
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:12 PM
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Chicago is > 200 miles from any boundary with Canada (Windsor), and Illinois has no border with Canada anywhere. Lake Michigan is ENTIRELY within the US. No part of Canada is anywhere close to Lake Michigan. If Border Patrol wanted to set up shop in Mackinaw City, maybe there would be an argument, but that's 300 miles from Chicago by water, 400 miles by land.

ancianita

(42,412 posts)
12. You asked. So here are the details. You're right if by land. However...
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:33 PM
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Chicago is considered to be within the 100-mile border enforcement zone because it is situated on Lake Michigan, which is part of the international boundary between the U.S. and Canada.

That's the justification.
If it were not so, IL Gov. JB Pritzker, with a law degree from Northwestern, would have filed a suit in federal court to prevent all this.

ancianita

(42,412 posts)
13. Here is Bloomberg's map from four years ago.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 05:44 PM
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https://archive.ph/RvnGU


On another interesting note, here's a notice of a no-fly drone zone over Chicago, because the "war" must be kept secret from aerial surveillance by state authorities...

https://www.twz.com/air/massive-drone-no-fly-zone-imposed-over-greater-chicago-area

There have been no reports that drones have created major problems for federal agents. However, having uncrewed aerial vehicles flying during an ongoing operation like the one taking place in the Chicago area clearly raises concerns about operational security as well as the safety of helicopters and other aviation assets flying in support of it. Meanwhile, despite the possibility of waivers for commercial and journalistic purposes, the restriction is also drawing the ire of commercial drone operators and sparking worries about civil liberties violations.

... On Tuesday, President Donald Trump suggested responding to protests in Chicago and elsewhere would be a good way to prepare troops for combat.

“…we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military ... because we’re going into Chicago very soon,” Trump told a room full of admirals and generals gathered at Marine Base Quantico...

“The Chicago TFR is the exact scenario First Amendment advocates warned about: government using airspace restrictions to prevent documentation of controversial operations in public spaces,” Kesteloo, who is also a drone journalist, told us. “Combined with the 5th Circuit’s ruling that drone operation isn’t expressive conduct, we’re seeing the emergence of a legal framework where federal agencies can effectively control visual journalism by controlling airspace.”

Bluetus

(1,764 posts)
14. Thanks for that reference
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 06:53 PM
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So to clarify, nobody is claiming anything to do with Canada's border, and Canada certainly does not claim any rights over Lake Michigan. This 100-mile "border zone" is an utterly arbitrary result of US law, not any international agreements, and as a result, allows Border Patrol to harass over 2/3 of the US population.

However, their powers are limited. Here is an interesting position paper from the ACLU:
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

electric_blue68

(24,625 posts)
15. I remember traveling to East Lansing by bus, with a stop in Detroit. On our way out...
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:43 PM
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We passed several overhead signs including "To Canada".

I was like, "woah!".

This was bc I live in NYC...but had traveled to Canada by car as a tween with my family. Half way northward in NYS, then turned west all the way past Buffalo towards Toronto.
Next trip was all the way north in NYS towards Montreal.
So several hundred miles either way.

Suddenly, here I was right next to Canada unexpectedly not really remembering Detroit's geo-location.

(our trips to Canada were nice, so it was just a location surprise)

Attilatheblond

(7,600 posts)
5. One assumes the judge will also be getting reports from people on the streets
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 03:44 PM
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And woe be onto Bovino if he doesn't report any abuse by his gang that witnesses report and show video of.

ancianita

(42,412 posts)
7. Likely. She'll also likely see Chicago public news sources full of pictures of ICE-Bovino violations.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:03 PM
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It will be interesting to see if she rules contempt on Bovino. She issued a TRO on Oct 8 with explicit orders to him andICE. She'll get Bovino's daily "reports" until she holds her preliminary injunction hearing on Nov 5, next Wednesday, at which point she'll take into account all of Bovino's past violations and could rule for a preliminary injunction. She's got more than enough evidence, imo.

ancianita

(42,412 posts)
9. Right? He has such contempt for this court and non-whites, he's more than earned Ellis's contempt back.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:38 PM
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