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BumRushDaShow

(165,386 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:49 AM Monday

Zelensky: 15-year US security guarantee part of peace proposal

Source: The Hill

12/29/25 7:56 AM ET


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told reporters on Monday that the United States is offering a 15-year security guarantee in the latest draft of the 20-point peace proposal to end Kyiv’s war with Russia.

Zelensky, answering reporters’ questions on WhatsApp, said he would prefer the Trump administration to commit to up to 50 years to deter Russia from launching any further attacks.

“I would like the guarantee to be much longer,” Zelensky said, multiple outlets reported. “I told him that we would very much like to consider the possibility of 30, 40, 50 years,” Zelensky added. “And that would then be a historic decision by President Trump.”

Zelensky told reporters that President Trump said he would consider the Ukrainian leader’s request for more years, The Associated Press reported.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/5665104-volodymyr-zelensky-donald-trump-ukraine-security-guarantee/

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Zelensky: 15-year US security guarantee part of peace proposal (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
Any agreement with Trump is meaningless. Irish_Dem Monday #1
I was just about to reply..... wolfie001 Monday #2
Trump will play both ends. Exact a huge amount of money from both Ukraine and Russia. Irish_Dem Monday #7
I think he will only extract money from Ukraine MadameButterfly Monday #21
It would be interesting to see the real transactions behind the scenes. Irish_Dem Monday #23
I just haven't heard MadameButterfly Monday #27
He is asking Putin to stop blackmailing him. Irish_Dem Monday #30
Well, yes. But blackmail never really ends MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #34
Exactly. Putin doesn't care what Trump wants. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #35
President Zelenskyy needs to understand that. OldBaldy1701E Monday #3
Guarantees were already made when Ukraine gave up all its nukes Bayard Monday #19
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Monday #20
Zelensky understands who he is dealing with MadameButterfly Monday #22
"Hoping to survive until the US gets rid of Trump." OldBaldy1701E Monday #25
Ha. Yes, I guess that's the sized of it. MadameButterfly Monday #28
Any agreement with shithole and Putin is meaningless................ Lovie777 Monday #11
Putin and Trump will double cross everyone including each other. Irish_Dem Monday #16
What could Ukraine do if Trump reneged on any such agreement? Emrys Monday #31
Yes I understand Zelensky has to do Kabuki Theater right now. Irish_Dem Monday #32
Vlad will... Mike Nelson Monday #4
And send over some hookers and kids. Irish_Dem Monday #17
Unfortunately the US has become a four year organization! Hope22 Monday #5
Trump doesn't follow rules JBTaurus83 Monday #6
The only way to make this a binding agreement thucythucy Monday #8
It would be meaningless angrychair Monday #15
Huh uh, that dog don't hunt. no_hypocrisy Monday #9
There already is a security guarantee Bluestocking Monday #10
I wouldn't trust the US for anything. Trump is lying. travelingthrulife Monday #12
Except for revenge, a guarantee from Trump is a joke. Norrrm Monday #13
Our word is meaningless angrychair Monday #14
Smart move would be during that time - build and hide Nukes, Dan Monday #18
So gee, who would I trust the most not to lie about this. ananda Monday #24
It's a lie. Safe as Milk Monday #26
"I would like the guarantee to be much longer," Zelensky said, MorbidButterflyTat Monday #29
"Guarantee" means nothing to Trump: he is a chronic reneger and breacher of contracts Prairie Gates Monday #33
Assuming the US gets a POTUS who is not a Trump, maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #36

wolfie001

(7,040 posts)
2. I was just about to reply.....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:04 AM
Monday

Some russki oligarch will hold a stash of bitcoin at the fat orange imbecile and Ukraine's out the window.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
7. Trump will play both ends. Exact a huge amount of money from both Ukraine and Russia.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:26 AM
Monday

They want something from him and they will have to pay out the nose for it.

Then he will screw over both sides.

MadameButterfly

(3,737 posts)
21. I think he will only extract money from Ukraine
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:20 PM
Monday

Territory, minerals, etc.
He'll MAYBE extract promises form Putin which won't be kept.
Trump is not running this. Putin is.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
23. It would be interesting to see the real transactions behind the scenes.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:29 PM
Monday

Not the fake TV stunts.

Yes Trump will extract something from both sides.

MadameButterfly

(3,737 posts)
27. I just haven't heard
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:23 PM
Monday

what he is asking Putin to give up. Unless you count not taking over the whole of Ukraine a sacrifice.

MadameButterfly

(3,737 posts)
34. Well, yes. But blackmail never really ends
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:27 AM
14 hrs ago

does it? Trump does Putin's bidding so Putin doesn't expose him. But he has to keep doing Putin's bidding. He is never done.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,067 posts)
3. President Zelenskyy needs to understand that.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:06 AM
Monday

Making any deal with this slimeball is going to backfire on you spectacularly.

Just read some history on the subject.

Bayard

(28,447 posts)
19. Guarantees were already made when Ukraine gave up all its nukes
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:28 PM
Monday

We see how that's worked.

trump, "considering," on providing protection for more years, like Zelensky wants, is crap. Its not up to him, and if it was Putin asking, it would be shoved down Ukraine's throat.

Zelensky asks, Putin demands.

MadameButterfly

(3,737 posts)
22. Zelensky understands who he is dealing with
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:27 PM
Monday

He has to go through the motions. He is buying time. While Europe arms enough to help and while Ukrainian drones keep getting better. Hoping to survive until the US gets rid of Trump. Making it as hard as possible for Trump politicallly to completely desert Ukraine or publicly allly himself with Putin. Zelensky is smarter than the rest of us.

MadameButterfly

(3,737 posts)
28. Ha. Yes, I guess that's the sized of it.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:26 PM
Monday

But some of us are more on the front lines than others. Nobody is dropping misseles on my town (yet).

Emrys

(8,923 posts)
31. What could Ukraine do if Trump reneged on any such agreement?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:21 PM
Monday

Sue?

I understand why Zelensky has to go though these motions. It's quite canny to get these issues out in the open and try to put Trump on the spot, but ultimately Trump will do whatever suits Trump best at any point in time, and in any case he will not be in power when these mooted agreements come into force.

What a future Congress and administration will choose to do is another matter. One would hope that no civilized country would need a formal agreement in order to come to the aid of any country invaded by a rapacious bullying hasbeen superpower.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
32. Yes I understand Zelensky has to do Kabuki Theater right now.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:29 PM
Monday

Yes he has to get the issues out there and pretend Trump
is operating in good faith.

The GOP in congress will do what their minders tell them to do.

We no longer have a working congress.
It has been dismantled.

Mike Nelson

(10,903 posts)
4. Vlad will...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:07 AM
Monday

... agree to anything unenforceable and nothing meaningful. He will also tell The Donald how handsome he is, and how much he deserves a Peace Award for all his hard work.

Hope22

(4,451 posts)
5. Unfortunately the US has become a four year organization!
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:22 AM
Monday

Sir we are into our second year with this one. There are no guarantees. Even the citizens here do not know what their future brings. I suggest you form an alliance with a more stable, trustworthy group. Stay safe. Your bravery and commitment to your people and country is a thing of beauty and strength. I am sorry that the T administration treats you with such disdain. You deserved better.

JBTaurus83

(851 posts)
6. Trump doesn't follow rules
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:25 AM
Monday

He doesn’t follow laws and financial allocations from Congress. Who would ever trust that the US will make good on security guarantees?

thucythucy

(9,042 posts)
8. The only way to make this a binding agreement
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:36 AM
Monday

would be for it to be a formal treaty ratified by the Senate.

And even then, there's a good chance we'd still refuse to help if Russia attacks at some point in the future.

Wasn't Ukraine given a guarantee from Russia some years ago? And how did that turn out?

angrychair

(11,647 posts)
15. It would be meaningless
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:28 AM
Monday

We already have a security agreement with them, the Budapest Memorandum, we refused to honor it.
Unfortunately, that wasn't even Mango Mussolini but he also refused to honor it.

no_hypocrisy

(54,175 posts)
9. Huh uh, that dog don't hunt.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:37 AM
Monday

Russia advances into Ukraine and Trump will be an adversary of Putin?

Bluestocking

(491 posts)
10. There already is a security guarantee
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:37 AM
Monday

It is called the Budapest Memorandum. How about the US and Russia just honor what was already agreed upon when Ukraine gave up its nukes.

angrychair

(11,647 posts)
14. Our word is meaningless
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:22 AM
Monday

Didn't we already have a treaty with them to protect them if they removed their nuclear weapons?

We didn't honor that agreement either.

Dan

(4,938 posts)
18. Smart move would be during that time - build and hide Nukes,
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:17 PM
Monday

Combined with creating a delivery system. Because trusting Trump and the GOP would be beyond stupid.

ananda

(34,337 posts)
24. So gee, who would I trust the most not to lie about this.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:32 PM
Monday

It's just so hard to choose.

sarcasm

Safe as Milk

(198 posts)
26. It's a lie.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:21 PM
Monday

There will be no consequences when Trump reneges on the security guarantee. And he will. Diddling Donny has NO INTEREST in UKR's, welfare or national integrity. None. Zelenskyy's only hope is that Europe will recoil at Diddling Donny's alliance with Putin and give even more support for Ukraine. Further, they should shun Trump from ANY diplomatic negotiations involving UKR. Donny is on Putin's side, and denying that is in no one's best interests. Trump is a traitor against NATO. It's that simple.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,132 posts)
29. "I would like the guarantee to be much longer," Zelensky said,
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:00 PM
Monday
“And that would then be a historic decision by Piggy.”

President Zelensky playing to Piggy's desperate, insatiable ego.

Piggy might as well agree to a million years, he'll never honor any agreement.

Prairie Gates

(7,147 posts)
33. "Guarantee" means nothing to Trump: he is a chronic reneger and breacher of contracts
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:08 PM
Monday

His word is worth ugatz. His signature is worth less.

maxsolomon

(38,128 posts)
36. Assuming the US gets a POTUS who is not a Trump,
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:36 PM
12 hrs ago

15 years should put them past the end of Putin's reign.

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