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Fri Jan 31, 2025, 12:46 PM Jan 31

'The Worst Nightmare For DOJ Is Already Coming True'

"A Decapitation Event"

"While Attorney General-nominee Pam Bondi awaits Senate confirmation, the Trump White House is proceeding to hobble the Justice Department by illegally firing the career prosecutors who handled the criminal cases against Donald Trump and by retaliating against other elements within the department...The Justice Department and the FBI will be controlled by the Trump White House, and whoever is installed in leadership positions will be figureheads acting on orders from above. This not normal."

"In the span of 10 days, President Trump has succeeded in crushing two of the most important institutions in the federal government for upholding and defending the rule of law. The FBI and DOJ purges, as with the other illegal firings across government, are ousting career civil servants in violation of the civil service laws that were implemented specifically to protect the functioning of government from rampant politicization and abuse. Your occasional reminder that the only political position at the FBI is the directorship (which has never been held by a Democrat)."

"With the Department of Justice now compromised, who is there to enforce the laws that the Trump White House and its minions throughout government are violating with impunity every day? The Supreme Court’s historically bad immunity decision only covers the president. For everyone else, there was still the Justice Department. Until now."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/the-worst-nightmare-for-doj-is-already-coming-true

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'The Worst Nightmare For DOJ Is Already Coming True' (Original Post) sop Jan 31 OP
K&R Think. Again. Jan 31 #1
Why Trump's personnel purges are likely to end up in court LetMyPeopleVote Jan 31 #2

LetMyPeopleVote

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2. Why Trump's personnel purges are likely to end up in court
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jan 31

There are legal constraints in place that are designed to prevent many of the president's recent firings. So why is Trump making the moves anyway?
https://bsky.app/profile/rcooley123.bsky.social/post/3lgyhamz7cs2f



Why Trump’s personnel purges are likely to end up in court

Late last week, Donald Trump fired as many as 17 inspectors general without cause. These government watchdogs are responsible for investigating internal wrongdoing, possible ethical…”

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-personnel-purges-are-likely-end-court-rcna189850

The so-called “midnight massacre” was controversial for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that Trump’s move appears to be at odds with federal law. The New York Times report explained, “The firings defied a law that requires presidents to give Congress 30 days’ advance notice before removing any inspector general, along with reasons for the firing. Just two years ago, Congress strengthened that provision by requiring the notice to include a ‘substantive rationale, including detailed and case-specific reasons” for the removal.’”

Trump evidently didn’t care about the legal constraints....

As the week progressed, the list of firings grew. The Washington Post reported on the president firing “Democratic members of two independent federal commissions,” which represented “an extraordinary break from decades of legal precedent.”

On Monday night, he dismissed two of the three Democrats on the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission — Jocelyn Samuels and Charlotte Burrows, formerly the chair, the White House confirmed Tuesday. He also fired the chair of the National Labor Relations Board, Gwynne Wilcox, a Democrat, an NLRB spokesperson confirmed Tuesday. Trump also removed the EEOC’s general counsel, Karla Gilbride, who oversaw civil actions against employers on a range of issues, including discrimination claims from LGBTQ+ and pregnant workers. And he terminated Jennifer Abruzzo, the NLRB’s general counsel.


It might be tempting to think a new administration is going to make all kinds of personnel changes, so no one should be too surprised by widespread firings.....

There’s also a larger concern about whether the White House wants to do away with the very idea of independent commissions and boards, centralizing even more power and authority in the Oval Office.

But I'm also struck by the through-line: There are legal constraints in place that are designed to prevent many of these firings. The question is why the president appears indifferent to these limits

There will be litigation due to these firings
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